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The Darod Eviction Policy. A Historical Article
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I'm sick of these Darods thinking all these events since 2004 till 2024 is random chaos 
and no hidden goal behind it.
If you ever see any darod playing sub clan interest like u see here, their apart of the equation to help see thru this grand project of darod eviction phase by phase, as the article says.
When I see darods sub dividing itself all I see is irir samaale goals being helped. I'll throw u under the bus mentality but your going to be thrown under the bus also after his gone, it's definitely not clan pride, their is hidden clan goals behind everything in Somalia.
and no hidden goal behind it.If you ever see any darod playing sub clan interest like u see here, their apart of the equation to help see thru this grand project of darod eviction phase by phase, as the article says.
When I see darods sub dividing itself all I see is irir samaale goals being helped. I'll throw u under the bus mentality but your going to be thrown under the bus also after his gone, it's definitely not clan pride, their is hidden clan goals behind everything in Somalia.
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Their only two options open for Darod. Separate and re claim your kingdom independence and argue it was ceded thru force and violation, same with JL you can argue British betrayed your protectorate agreement illegally before throwing your into the Italian colony.
Dhulos can argue they never even recognised the British treaty and makhir can argue it was sacked and violated. Ironically why are the global powers always harming Darods isn't random but systemic and calculated. They want clans they can treat like africans, ppl who worship them. The same project is being done in Sudan and Mali and Also Egypt, Iraq, Syria and they want dumb khaleejis left over. They just got rid of habesha also with oromo peasant.
That's one option.
Second option is a Darod unity and expel Isaaq and Hawiye like the warday oromo.
This constant making no moves and sitting idle is the worst posture, it's called the sitting duck posture and we know what happens to sitting ducks. This dreams of 1960 to 1991 mentality is unfit for 1991 to 2024 environment.
Dhulos can argue they never even recognised the British treaty and makhir can argue it was sacked and violated. Ironically why are the global powers always harming Darods isn't random but systemic and calculated. They want clans they can treat like africans, ppl who worship them. The same project is being done in Sudan and Mali and Also Egypt, Iraq, Syria and they want dumb khaleejis left over. They just got rid of habesha also with oromo peasant.
That's one option.
Second option is a Darod unity and expel Isaaq and Hawiye like the warday oromo.
This constant making no moves and sitting idle is the worst posture, it's called the sitting duck posture and we know what happens to sitting ducks. This dreams of 1960 to 1991 mentality is unfit for 1991 to 2024 environment.
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We need to look at Rwanda how Paul Kagame ruling elites came back to power and didn't allow Rwanda to fall to foreign interference and letting out the hoto. Ironically he made peace with the UK, they are the more experienced empire America consults.
We must tell the brits its not in your interest to allow non ruling class clans or tribes on the continent into power, you will just get a never ending conflict with no outcome.
We must tell the brits its not in your interest to allow non ruling class clans or tribes on the continent into power, you will just get a never ending conflict with no outcome.
TheLand
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@DR OSMAN i have a theory that hawiye is cursed and I might write a lengthy thesis on it lol. From the time of Kenadiid to today with the warlord era, suicide bombings, assassinations etc. I’m sure more Hawiye have died than all other tribes combined. I believe they may be the ‘naarul haawiya’ that is one of the levels of hell and the portal to it is in xamar. Even their diaspora are the least educated and mostly work as degenerate xamaali. Anyone who goes near the haawiya are also cursed by association just like the curse on the yahuud. What are your thoughts?
The civilians are not bad people, just like every other Somali civilian across all clans. When I say Hawiye or Isaaq I'm always referring to their political elites not civilians. I call them Khayrul Masuliyin, careless leaders.
Their leaders do seem to hold unfavourable qualities that cannot bring about hawiye benefits. They seem to always be on defence and guard position. They always assume by default anything from Darod is evil by construct.
They won't even entertain thinking it through.
I tell them cutt your losses, the nation is in a stalemate and it doesn't look to end, they need to approach stalemate politics thru a win win system and let's spread the losses mentality and yes their is going to be losses at all times but u weigh up the wins vs losses not expect some Genghis Khan is emerging here as the losses are adding up over time in big ways because the idea their following isn't suitable for a stalemate environment.
Don't play this Genghis Khan winner takes all, that's a huge gamble as their only 50/50 chance of it working and it also come with severe losses as you duly noted.
@TheLand My father refused many opportunities to return to Somalia, he simply said untill I see these hidden clan objectives I'm not staining my little positive legacy during siyad.
Even I refuse to join and only provide Intel to PL diaspora when leaders come about what's happening. We r not taking a role as bire qaate to harm a whole section of Somali people.
Siyad Barre isn't remotely in the same category as post 91 to 2024, he was halyey qaran and that's why u see Somalis till today all fled with him, we bailed in 87 before we saw what was being Cooked up. That's what America and Russia wanted darod elites in diaspora who cant add intellectual policies to locals untill the internet of course.
When I see Somalis in the diaspora I feel like we let them down but I also feel we r their true govt or else why is he sitting here with us siyad workers.
Even I refuse to join and only provide Intel to PL diaspora when leaders come about what's happening. We r not taking a role as bire qaate to harm a whole section of Somali people.
Siyad Barre isn't remotely in the same category as post 91 to 2024, he was halyey qaran and that's why u see Somalis till today all fled with him, we bailed in 87 before we saw what was being Cooked up. That's what America and Russia wanted darod elites in diaspora who cant add intellectual policies to locals untill the internet of course.
When I see Somalis in the diaspora I feel like we let them down but I also feel we r their true govt or else why is he sitting here with us siyad workers.
When I was in Mogadishu in 99 when their was no real diaspora as we spent around 15 years in the west by then, we went back bra, my dad did spoke to HG who he knew their character and intelligence not the moryans were talking their siyad Era elites.
He told them change the chapter, anyone can f*ck up and make mistakes but u don't stay in arrogance and continue it, he said cajalada badel, ka tag aduunka and be remembered for some positive legacy that can balance your negativity. Some listened like General Caare who refused to join somali politics like my dad but not Abdiqaybdiid.
For Siyad and Abdillahi Yusuf u can list their negatives but their will always be crowd talking about their Positivity.
See they took my dad advice especially abdillahi and now ppl remember him for bringing federal govt to hamar and the recovering hamar u see, while another side argues about him starting the destruction of Somalia thru rebels or siyad not stepping down.
Either way they bith ends in zero but it's better then the minuses going into negativity for the rest of somali elites who refused my dad wisdom, except habar gedir halyey caare.
We don't talk to farmaajo type he was scholarship generation, and hell no to HSM, we know the dude used to live as a second rate and couldn't succeed in siyad national exams, he used to hang around a damn bibito in sigaale, we know why these leaders r placed in Somalia, it supports foreign interest to destroy the place. The dude was a fuckin waiter who is ruling u.
My dad says Markay somalidu xiniyo lahayd Hassan sheikh muxu ahaa we know his history and u guys always be ruled by the second rates who failed in siyad meritocracy.
We don't see anyone post 91 except Abdillahi Yusuf as worthy to even sit with us due his remarkable and miraculous come back to leave something behind positive which I must admit we weren't expecting, we were banking on general caare in habar gedir who we assumed had some favourable conditions and he was super smart also more then abdillahi. But he said HG are on another ship here with the lowliest of habar gedir in power like cayr.
I didn't even know how severe the 4 month war took its toll on hg and abgaal greatest human capital, my dad was stunned when caare read all the geniuses they lost saying this is unforgivable on abgaal and we assume abgaal have their list and why we left hamar and realised their no peace coming here cause u don't waste 20 cent bullet on some clans human capital and thinks it will resolve even thru any made up darod enemy or gaalo enemy, that shit in hamar is unresolvable, we need a new capital and why I'm always calling for a new capital.
HG and Abgaal are in the end games we left and realised Somalia Is fucked in 99.
He told them change the chapter, anyone can f*ck up and make mistakes but u don't stay in arrogance and continue it, he said cajalada badel, ka tag aduunka and be remembered for some positive legacy that can balance your negativity. Some listened like General Caare who refused to join somali politics like my dad but not Abdiqaybdiid.
For Siyad and Abdillahi Yusuf u can list their negatives but their will always be crowd talking about their Positivity.
See they took my dad advice especially abdillahi and now ppl remember him for bringing federal govt to hamar and the recovering hamar u see, while another side argues about him starting the destruction of Somalia thru rebels or siyad not stepping down.
Either way they bith ends in zero but it's better then the minuses going into negativity for the rest of somali elites who refused my dad wisdom, except habar gedir halyey caare.
We don't talk to farmaajo type he was scholarship generation, and hell no to HSM, we know the dude used to live as a second rate and couldn't succeed in siyad national exams, he used to hang around a damn bibito in sigaale, we know why these leaders r placed in Somalia, it supports foreign interest to destroy the place. The dude was a fuckin waiter who is ruling u.
My dad says Markay somalidu xiniyo lahayd Hassan sheikh muxu ahaa we know his history and u guys always be ruled by the second rates who failed in siyad meritocracy.
We don't see anyone post 91 except Abdillahi Yusuf as worthy to even sit with us due his remarkable and miraculous come back to leave something behind positive which I must admit we weren't expecting, we were banking on general caare in habar gedir who we assumed had some favourable conditions and he was super smart also more then abdillahi. But he said HG are on another ship here with the lowliest of habar gedir in power like cayr.
I didn't even know how severe the 4 month war took its toll on hg and abgaal greatest human capital, my dad was stunned when caare read all the geniuses they lost saying this is unforgivable on abgaal and we assume abgaal have their list and why we left hamar and realised their no peace coming here cause u don't waste 20 cent bullet on some clans human capital and thinks it will resolve even thru any made up darod enemy or gaalo enemy, that shit in hamar is unresolvable, we need a new capital and why I'm always calling for a new capital.
HG and Abgaal are in the end games we left and realised Somalia Is fucked in 99.
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I am the first to admit we didn't support PL or attend any PL establishment, it was when we saw Farole visit us and talk to us about PL heading towards a more inner approach and helping resurrect other Somalis externally and slowly rebuild the somali state. It was only then we talked about PL as late as 2009 but I started watching a bit early in 2005 Cade Era.
Their some things we saw in Farole character(very qoysnimo focused like 1960 to 1969 era) he assumes thru qoys anything and everything can be settled. We werent confident because we had hamar intel from general caare who we trust much more and know his intellect.
My dad now just focuses on helping his immediate family saying I hope Somalis start small, horta qoyskina ka soo baxa lol not think about ruling millions of other households. He said look at their stupidity as all they leave behind is single mothers and ruined children but the dude thinks he can solve other households by the millions in Somalia and wants the key given to him, war furihi gurigaga yar ayaad dumisay ma waxad soo raadinayssn furihi dalka lol
My dad is gonna die in misery I know it, I can see it in his face when I talk to him about Somalia.
Their some things we saw in Farole character(very qoysnimo focused like 1960 to 1969 era) he assumes thru qoys anything and everything can be settled. We werent confident because we had hamar intel from general caare who we trust much more and know his intellect.
My dad now just focuses on helping his immediate family saying I hope Somalis start small, horta qoyskina ka soo baxa lol not think about ruling millions of other households. He said look at their stupidity as all they leave behind is single mothers and ruined children but the dude thinks he can solve other households by the millions in Somalia and wants the key given to him, war furihi gurigaga yar ayaad dumisay ma waxad soo raadinayssn furihi dalka lol
My dad is gonna die in misery I know it, I can see it in his face when I talk to him about Somalia.
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Isaaq are the more educated @TheLand
They knew that hamar shit is unresolvable and said goodbye Somalia, my dad found out by 99 and his ambassador who is cidagale said go focus on your PL. My dad still refused our ambassador advice, he died in hargeisa recently and his like dam that dude knew long before he did.
So as I am now the generation who had access to them, I'm proposing Somali hala badbadiyo, casimada hala badelo, hamar hirshabelle ha lagu soo xiro oo halkasi haku dhamaystan aarsigooda for 4 month war. Which won't come untill they see either side has high human capital which obviously is unlikely in a war driven nation, that's why it's never ending. Their not gonna kill sxb bakhtigaga from other clan for 20 cent a bullet their waiting for a siilanyo among abgaal and habar gedir.
Somalia don't understand some wars is calculated and all about killing the best among other side not their khat eaters, single mothers, etc their seen as deadweight harming you anyways. It's all about honor how dare u kill and spend 19 cent a bullet on someone who we built up for 50 years. It was exposed to Somalis in sharmarke killing, lowly bodyguard and their all playing it now and why noone is moving forward untill your clan produces the same quality.
They knew that hamar shit is unresolvable and said goodbye Somalia, my dad found out by 99 and his ambassador who is cidagale said go focus on your PL. My dad still refused our ambassador advice, he died in hargeisa recently and his like dam that dude knew long before he did.
So as I am now the generation who had access to them, I'm proposing Somali hala badbadiyo, casimada hala badelo, hamar hirshabelle ha lagu soo xiro oo halkasi haku dhamaystan aarsigooda for 4 month war. Which won't come untill they see either side has high human capital which obviously is unlikely in a war driven nation, that's why it's never ending. Their not gonna kill sxb bakhtigaga from other clan for 20 cent a bullet their waiting for a siilanyo among abgaal and habar gedir.
Somalia don't understand some wars is calculated and all about killing the best among other side not their khat eaters, single mothers, etc their seen as deadweight harming you anyways. It's all about honor how dare u kill and spend 19 cent a bullet on someone who we built up for 50 years. It was exposed to Somalis in sharmarke killing, lowly bodyguard and their all playing it now and why noone is moving forward untill your clan produces the same quality.
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TheLand
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PLers are fundamentally different from SLers sxb. Whereas they all live in one area, we have people all over the place, especially in JL. That is why most PLers don’t want to leave Somalia. You best believe if we were all in Bari/Nugaal/Mudug we would have left long ago as there really would be zero reason to stay.
Nope youre wrong, youre absolutely wrong. Your dad is wrong too. Clan does not determine intelligence.
@Libaax-Joore you didnt have access to intel from siyad era elites in HG and how high quality niggas died in the 4 Month war, I mean they bringing HG bodies into stadium and say what's up now, ninki and isku halaynayseen oo aad 50 sano soo dhisayeen not is only bakthi, but brought to stadium Mogadishu to faan about it, and abgaal was like I spent like 10 cent bullet on that mother fucker.
So niggas r vibing in HG to 2pac lyrics, their hiding their pain thru narcotics(khat) as they wait for big hits on abgaal. Mind u their my reer ayeeyo and I know their side of the story thru my ayeeyo who lost alot too.
This HG at 1.50 mark till 1.55 mark
This is my dad when he met Gen Caaro, he knows this shit can stretch for centuries and concealed under other projects.
But he liked us cause he knew we r gob and look out for Somali wide interest. My dad said my clan neglected its land to build hawiye and isaaq areas and caare said just leave arintani hawiye bay dhex taal meaning 4 month war meel looga harayo illa yowmul qiyaamo ma jiro meaning thousands of years we will remain like this.
So niggas r vibing in HG to 2pac lyrics, their hiding their pain thru narcotics(khat) as they wait for big hits on abgaal. Mind u their my reer ayeeyo and I know their side of the story thru my ayeeyo who lost alot too.
This HG at 1.50 mark till 1.55 mark
This is my dad when he met Gen Caaro, he knows this shit can stretch for centuries and concealed under other projects.
But he liked us cause he knew we r gob and look out for Somali wide interest. My dad said my clan neglected its land to build hawiye and isaaq areas and caare said just leave arintani hawiye bay dhex taal meaning 4 month war meel looga harayo illa yowmul qiyaamo ma jiro meaning thousands of years we will remain like this.
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@Libaax-Joore
U don't kill someone high human capital with 1 cent bullet in the hundreds and not expect them to sit there chewing narcotics waiting for revenge. Elites of siyad era ma hisabiyan niyahow the deadweight lost, their some say u helped inaad culayski ka qaaday and being removed and sent to akhirah to die for some worthy cause or else they say with their deadweight koley amal(on earth benefits) kuma galayan lol.
Waxaa meesha yaal wa dadki human capitallki ahaa oo la soo dhisay oo dhintay oo weliba ku dhintay 1 cent investment which is what a single bullet is worth.
U dont need to worry we darods we ran and fled into exile as the Americans and Russians wanted, it's habar gedir who lost alot and same with abgaal and why Mogadishu will never settle untill that pain is addressed.
U don't kill someone high human capital with 1 cent bullet in the hundreds and not expect them to sit there chewing narcotics waiting for revenge. Elites of siyad era ma hisabiyan niyahow the deadweight lost, their some say u helped inaad culayski ka qaaday and being removed and sent to akhirah to die for some worthy cause or else they say with their deadweight koley amal(on earth benefits) kuma galayan lol.
Waxaa meesha yaal wa dadki human capitallki ahaa oo la soo dhisay oo dhintay oo weliba ku dhintay 1 cent investment which is what a single bullet is worth.
U dont need to worry we darods we ran and fled into exile as the Americans and Russians wanted, it's habar gedir who lost alot and same with abgaal and why Mogadishu will never settle untill that pain is addressed.
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I'm not cadow Hawiye if i was then I wouldn't lay down this shit and keep it to myself and watch it play out. I have a duty to them as my maternal side awoowe who I do hold alot of respect and same me with reer ayeeyo who r abgaal, the true xasid clannist is the one who knows and remains quiet thinking their some edge they will get. I'm telling u I ain't watching my abtiyaal fall, so I'll expose it.
Alot of the majertens don't like me here, they defend their abtis and think I have no rite too, who u fooling with that nonsense. I want my abtis to recover, wala soo qalday, their definitely in end games over the 4 month war.
I want them to carve out their land and take their federal deal and cut your losses and not seek.impossible ambitions of siyad barre or irir samaale, and garbage. Ti yarayd yaysan gacantada ka bixin for Djibouti ismacil Omar geele who is seeking conflict here so it doesn't overshadow Djibouti a successful Somalia and lead to his own downfall with Djibouti uprising.
Alot of the majertens don't like me here, they defend their abtis and think I have no rite too, who u fooling with that nonsense. I want my abtis to recover, wala soo qalday, their definitely in end games over the 4 month war.
I want them to carve out their land and take their federal deal and cut your losses and not seek.impossible ambitions of siyad barre or irir samaale, and garbage. Ti yarayd yaysan gacantada ka bixin for Djibouti ismacil Omar geele who is seeking conflict here so it doesn't overshadow Djibouti a successful Somalia and lead to his own downfall with Djibouti uprising.
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