The dangers of Sufism. Sufis come in

Like what? I am talking about Sufis in Somalia?

I was brainwashed into believing that they worship graves and slaughter meat to Sheikh Abdulqadir Jeylani. I spent time with them in Galkayo. All we did was eat mighty feast and recite Quran

As for mawlid, you say it's Haram, I believe that they will be rewarded for it. Not because of the mawlid, but because of their love for the prophet. Abu Lahab, the worst enemy of Islam, receives every Monday a drip of water in Jahannam. Why? Because out of love and excitement for the prophet, his nephew, he freed a slave woman when the prophet was born. That's how much weight the love for the prophet has. Imagine the reward a muslim receives for loving and celebrating his birthday.

‘Urwah ibn al-Zubayr narrated a long hadeeth and mentioned Thuwayba, the first wet-nurse of the beloved Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) and slavewoman of his cruel uncle, Abu Lahab. ‘Urwah adds a note at the end of his narration, saying:

“And Thuwayba was the freed slave of Abu Lahab. Abu Lahab freed her, and then she nursed the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). So when Abu Lahab died [in disbelief], he was shown to someone in his family [in a dream] in the most wretched of conditions, and [that relative – they say it was ‘Abbas] said to him: ‘What did you find [after death]?’ So Abu Lahab replied, ‘I didn’t find [any rest] since I left you all, except that I was given to drink *this little amount* because of my freeing Thuwayba.'” [al-Bukhari, Saheeh]

On the day the Prophet (peace be upon him) was born, Thuwayba rushed to her master Abu Lahab in joy and said, “Have you heard?! Aminah has just given birth to a son, for your brother Abdullah!” As was the custom of Arabs to show generosity at receiving good news, and since this was the newborn son (peace be upon him) of his recently deceased brother, Abu Lahab gestured with his thumb and forefinger, saying to Thuwayba, “Go, for you are free.” For this, his punishment in the Hereafter is lessened by a small sip of water equal to what could be held in the small curve of flesh at the base of the thumb till the forefinger [‘Abdur-Razzaq, Mussanaf].

Do not underestimate the love for the prophet. Dong be dismissive of others.
The prophet said we should not celebrate him who are we not to follow what the prophet says I've been to suufi mosque before in galkacyo after Salah they start dikir why not do as the prophet did after he finished his Salah
 

Reer-Bari

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what about the fact that salafism was a made up ideology in 1970 by abdulwahab for the Saudis and how its lead to the killing of millions of muslims

sufism existed long before salafism, the only danger i see is from salafism

so refrain from spreading salafi wahabi propoganda we somalis are shafi i sunnis we follow the sunnah not abdulwahab
that just proves you dont know anyting. salafis follow the quran and sunnah. i am a follower of the shafici school of thaught which is a salafi school of thaught just like hanbali and hanafi. 0% of somalis are salafis.
 
A lot of messed up people here.
Some supporting the mowliid and Ya sheeekkk Jeylaani:noneck:



Whether you call your self ahlu sunnah wal jamaac or salafi. The correct muslim is one who follows islam in accordance with the Quran, Sunnah, and the 3 best Generations and the understanding of Madhabis.


Its all labeling. I believe in the quran and sunnah. Some people have an agenda with saudi hate. Go for it lakiin Islam isnt Saudi and Saudi isnt islam. They dont represent islam. Bin Laden was a CIA op.



Hal iyo wadaar iyama walaan. Sufism is done in Somalia. Correct form is thriving.
 

Reer-Bari

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it seems to me we have a few evil terrorists we are going to kick bastard killers like alshabab and wahabiyah out of our country you fake muslims followers of abdul wahab

you have no right to talk about sufis when you where created in 1970 we somalis are are followers of the sunnah as dictated by the prophet and sufis are our muslims brothers
i have never read abdul wahab i follow the school of thaught of imam shafici the salafi imam that all of somalia follow besides a small fring group who are sufi.
 

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A lot of messed up people here.
Some supporting the mowliid and Ya sheeekkk Jeylaani:noneck:



Whether you call your self ahlu sunnah wal jamaac or salafi. The correct muslim is one who follows islam in accordance with the Quran, Sunnah, and the 3 best Generations and the understanding of Madhabis.


Its all labeling. I believe in the quran and sunnah. Some people have an agenda with saudi hate. Go for it lakiin Islam isnt Saudi and Saudi isnt islam. They dont represent islam. Bin Laden was a CIA op.



Hal iyo wadaar iyama walaan. Sufism is done in Somalia. Correct form is thriving.

What I don't get is the need for labels, Sufi, Salaf, Wahaab, Shia, Brotherhood, etc.

You either follow the Sunnah and Quran, or you dance in circles and pray to graves old sheikhs
 

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A lot of messed up people here.
Some supporting the mowliid and Ya sheeekkk Jeylaani:noneck:



Whether you call your self ahlu sunnah wal jamaac or salafi. The correct muslim is one who follows islam in accordance with the Quran, Sunnah, and the 3 best Generations and the understanding of Madhabis.


Its all labeling. I believe in the quran and sunnah. Some people have an agenda with saudi hate. Go for it lakiin Islam isnt Saudi and Saudi isnt islam. They dont represent islam. Bin Laden was a CIA op.



Hal iyo wadaar iyama walaan. Sufism is done in Somalia. Correct form is thriving.
If that’s the case we should form our own new sect:fittytousand: Somalism where we follow the Quran, sunnah, and 3 best generations from the shafici madhab:dabcasar: kind of like what Saudi did a couple of years ago when they made the salafi sect
 
What I don't get is the need for labels, Salaf, Wahaab, Shia, Brotherhood, etc.

You either follow the Sunnah and Quran, or you dance in circles and pray to graves old sheikhs
Exactly. I dont really disagree if one wants to call themselves labels. Lakiin there are 2 xisbiz. Xisbu Sheydaan and Xisbu Allah
 
If that’s the case we should form our own new sect:fittytousand: Somalism where we follow the Quran, sunnah, and 3 best generations from the shafici madhab:dabcasar: kind of like what Saudi did a couple of years ago when they made the salafi sect
First find out what salafis stand for and what are there values. People who are arguing yet dont have a clue about anything.
Are you really Shafici? Explain what happens when a man touches his wife normally. No sexual feelings. Does he have wudu or what??
 

Reer-Bari

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Hanafi madhab and only hanafi madhab.

:ufdup:
hanafi followed the salaf. bro let me make this clear i dont claim to be a salafi. i am a muslim. but i dont see anything wrong with people who do. but i do follow the teachings of the salaf which means the pious predecessors
 

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First find out what salafis stand for and what are there values. People who are arguing yet dont have a clue about anything.
Are you really Shafici? Explain what happens when a man touches his wife normally. No sexual feelings. Does he have wudu or what??

Thats hardcore, I am in whatever madhab says he still has his weeyso:gucciwhat:
 
Thats hardcore, I am in whatever madhab says he still has his weeyso:gucciwhat:
Exactly. People dont know that is what shafici believe. While there are authentic hadith were the prophet touched Umm Aishas Thighs while in prayer to tell her to move. Yet he continued his prayer.
I could ask him many question about these so called sufis he support and he would know
 

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First find out what salafis stand for and what are there values. People who are arguing yet dont have a clue about anything.
Are you really Shafici? Explain what happens when a man touches his wife normally. No sexual feelings. Does he have wudu or what??
This is what they are
“The Salafi movement, also called Salafist movement, Salafiya, and Salafism, is a reform branch or revivalist movement within Sunni Islam that developed in Egypt in the late 19th century as a response to Western European imperialism”
 
This is what they are
“The Salafi movement, also called Salafist movement, Salafiya, and Salafism, is a reform branch or revivalist movement within Sunni Islam that developed in Egypt in the late 19th century as a response to Western European imperialism”
What do they believe??? I didnt ask for a wiki
 

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PS: a known khawaarij trait is that they fight Muslims and leave kuffars alone. Salafis are known to verbally, monetary and physically attack fellow muslims while giving a safe passage to kuffar.

Alshabab leave their ranks when Amisom pulls up....
al shabab kill real salafis. how bout that.. they call real salafis by other names like madkhali and so on. walahi yall need to seek knowledge. we all need to seek knowledge and i dont want to make this threat to see who can win an arguement. let us seek the truth and be content with it. its a fact that al shabab and isis claim they are salafi. this is a stratagy to destroy the name of the salaf. you guys are falling for it. the salafi teaching is that it is against the deen to rebel against the leaders even if they are oppressors.
 

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hanafi followed the salaf. bro let me make this clear i dont claim to be a salafi. i am a muslim. but i dont see anything wrong with people who do. but i do follow the teachings of the salaf which means the pious predecessors

We gotta stop these labels though, you either are or aren't following the deen.

Each one that springs up makes things more confusing and divides us
 

Reer-Bari

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:mahubowtf: Going up against tyrannical leaders is part of our deen no matter which banner they put up:noneck: you can go up against Islamic rulers
thats what al shabab believe. you and al shabab have the same believes. the salaf say its against our religion to rebel against muslim leaders even if they are oprressors
 

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What do they believe??? I didnt ask for a wiki
They believe what any other modern Sunni sect believes which is the sunnah and Quran like other groups like the Muslim brotherhood for example:farmajoyaab: using Islam for political goals in this case the goals of Saudi Arabia and its influence, while sufism is a more older group from the time of the three blessed generations who also believe in the Quran and sunnah:manny:
 

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Saying I'm shafici and salafi is oxymoron. Salafis are against madhabs. They follow more of ibn Taymiyyah. @Reer-Bari is ignorant
 
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