The AU is desperately trying to convince Qatar to host a conference on the financing of AUSSOM
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I think my abtiyaal the murusade are right when they told me thanks for showing us how to clean zako(diaspora n local no names given) n terror funds(they don't give name out just location) by helping with safe location and legal loopholes. They doing well as they know the khasnad coordination of it. Their not like HG or other types who r loud n dumb and blatant but discrete, their low key clan but get shit down and don't raise eyebrows and sit with Somalis minding their own business(literally).
They told me once Somalia competitive advantage is anarchy, disorder, and every evil tactic unknown to the peaceful and stable parts of the world and they want to join any mashruc to spread it out and turn the world into mini Somalia and thru that inherit land because the locals are conditioned to be fat asses and comfortable while their base is hungry and savage, so they will fall like rome did to the vandals. So politically it makes sense to use what your gifts r since it's rare(35 year stateless) is unknown to the world and the thing that can emerge unwritten and local.
They told me once Somalia competitive advantage is anarchy, disorder, and every evil tactic unknown to the peaceful and stable parts of the world and they want to join any mashruc to spread it out and turn the world into mini Somalia and thru that inherit land because the locals are conditioned to be fat asses and comfortable while their base is hungry and savage, so they will fall like rome did to the vandals. So politically it makes sense to use what your gifts r since it's rare(35 year stateless) is unknown to the world and the thing that can emerge unwritten and local.
It's quite an anomaly being a stateless country for 35 years in this post ww2 world order maybe they can initiate or play a role in some disorder agent global mashruc for the ww3 that needs to happen according to them.
I mean seriously in all fairness to them, the Somali disorder they do with alot of grace and dignity compared to other places, that's why I say their sociopaths first and foremost not so much savage barbarian or impulsive like other nations in similar situations.
The west or east would be extinct by now if they had to endure it for 35 years, gee even their soldiers come back from these tours all broken and messed up(their civilian tolerance is far lower as their untrained).
I mean seriously in all fairness to them, the Somali disorder they do with alot of grace and dignity compared to other places, that's why I say their sociopaths first and foremost not so much savage barbarian or impulsive like other nations in similar situations.
The west or east would be extinct by now if they had to endure it for 35 years, gee even their soldiers come back from these tours all broken and messed up(their civilian tolerance is far lower as their untrained).
Nah wacbuudan side is my grandmother on the maternal side.
Their not very good at this stuff abgaal I'll be honest about that, HG r downright messy and unpredictable usually, Murusade tho tend to do it far more gracefully and less spotlight which is good 4 shaddy shit like disorder projects like shabab.
Which wacbuudhan?
Daud
You do know your abtis, really.
Well it's known by them as its the wax ba la dhuuqaya time, it's not a bad thing knowing Somalia is really unresolvable and to neglect your own well being well that's kinda silly also plus we all know their no Messiah coming lol
It's time to loot
Nonsense, there is no real difference in dhaqan between Wacbuudhan(Galmaax) and Southern Murusade. Nor is there real difference between Waceysle from Galcad-Cowsweyne and Murusade from Galhareeri-Jacar. Slightly different dhaqan can be observed in Murusade from Ceelbuur and Waceysle from Ceeldheer.
Murusade eat the feet of chickens. Wacbuudhan don't.
Murusade engage in leathering. Wacbuudhan don't.
Murusade are united in and around Xamar (ie they share settlements).
Wacbuudhan aren't (even Galmaax live separately).
Murusade own conglomerates, engage in collective/collaborative business.
Wacbuudhan don't.
Murusade don't sell land in their traditional settlements to other clans.
Wacbuudhan do.
That's a big difference, if you ask me.
Southern Murusade never did leathering, strictly men from Galhareeri. Basic info on the dynamics within Murusade.
Murusade(In reality facilitated by Murusade from qurbaha) did something far worse than Wacbuudhan(from qurbaha) leasing land for development. Murusade allowed their lands to become IDP hotspot for quick buck. Wacbuudhan(Galmaax) never did that. No IDP camps in Kaaraan but Deyniile is full of it. Simply because Murusade from gobolada dhexe who do not love the land like native Daynilite are in control. Imho, they must be put in chains, before whole of Baidoa moves into dhul Murusade.
You can see similar development where ever non Galmaax are in charge of in Xamar. Garasbaaley-Kaxda is controlled by Daud-Waceysle and it is full of IDP camps. Another set of elites who needs to be subjugated. Good intentions or not, if you love the land like your own, you'd be at the very least wary of 100s of thousands ppl being resettled there.
Edit: Conglomerates, are owned mostly by Murusade from Central Somalia. In business they are matched by their neighbours (Waceysle,Duduble,Ceyr etc.) who moved South. You fail to differintiate between Murusade who moved into Xamar and Murusade who were there while we discuss difference in dhaqan.
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Shuuuuus
Let rahanwayn play it's long game of resettlement(don't hate saakin offloading culayskisa to U while planning to Annex it later for SW or muran la geliyo degmada kasto)
Yeah the IDP scheme is rife but I always tell my abtis and reer ayeeyo(true natives of banadir clans) dad la yaqan pre 1991 n 1960, get together as deegaanimo pact, don't hide these mudug based clans in there, their just causing your pain, as it's not their land or story and the love for it isn't there naturally thru oral history hand down as their not apart of those sheekos. Kismaayo needs to do the same also. The south needs dadki la yaqan in power(it brings respect n public confidence plus his got a stake his own local credibility to gamble).
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I admit I don’t know much about internal Murusade dynamics (southern v central)
But the key distinction here is that Murusade "lease" land to NGOs. Murusade aren’t selling land to these IDPs; they lease it temporarily to NGOs to earn money. In fact, many of the IDP camps are empty for most of the year, only becoming active when NGO officials visit to distribute aid or funds. This way, Murusade retain control and can evict people when the land is needed. There’s no real land loss, and the KG refugees don’t pose any military threat to Murusade.
That’s a big difference compared to what’s happening with Galmaax - like how HG/Duduble are moving into Galmaax lands and beginning to stake claims. Murusade don’t sell to Daarood/HG/Hawiye.
Galmaax aren't savvy enough to adopt this Murusade Hustle - Lease to NGOs, don't sell to HG. They sold large amounts of land to HG/Duduble for cheap. They previously didn't control any part of proper Muqdisho except for Xamar-Daye, which they’ve now sold off for pennies.
There were many IDP camps in Kaaraan from 92 to 08. These camps generated income for the ruling Daud without risking permanent land loss - like selling to HG.
Wacaysle/Harti controlled areas also had massive camps that generated income and housed refugees from KG.
You can tell yourself what you want, it is far easier to reason with someone who has put in money and is there to enjoy middle class lifestyle about the status of the land than someone who is in a life or death situation.
Galmaax lease the land to firms who develop and sell properties not landholdings. What you buy from the developer in for example in Darussalaam is the property and they will pay taxes on that property not land. I know not all cases are like that. In agreements where the arrangement differs, that is the argument Galmaax will make.
Will any qurbojoog or well off person risk conflict about the status of the land, which makes no real difference. Since you will be paying taxes on it anyway. Just now Galmaax land holders will receive some of that tax. It isn't as much or as effective as these extremely retarded IDP camp schemes, you are so fucking proud of like a naked gaajo. Galmaax approach is much safer and smarter than the IDP schemes you foolishly think are in your favor.
You won't be able to hold the few greedy adeers accountable, I know that. Many have tried, they don't listen to reason. All they see is money and when shit hits the fan they will fly off the country and leave you to deal with it. And you think you are smarter and better than people who would rather work hard and increase their wealth steadily while not risk their off-springs dhaxal and future with these ''from rags to riches schemes''? No wonder people say it is a culture problem. We need to empower local Dayniilites and local Wacbuudhan in Kaxda/Garasbaaley, make sure that your cousins from Gobolada dhexe understand it ain't their land.
Harti Abgaal are very familiar with the importance of landholding rights, I suspect it is due to their experience with farming. They don't sell land to anyone not even lease. They are on alert almost to a fault-->Slow economic development, but it is better than volatility.
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Maasakin ha dhihin abti IDPS(that is the mashruc scheme), even that's is a scheme(they hustle like cooperative), park themselves outside masjids(when ppl r religious it's good score, they usually allocate some to elderly, disabled, single mom agoon kid in the pack who can't work to do that to get sympathy card), the boys are out their hustling on the streets doing trades, wife is doing maid work, this shit is a cooperative scheme to milk it, their quite rich clan how they accumulated the crumbs it adds up to mountains, it's a brutal tactic and impressive SW elite geniuses, even they found the federal vision in 55, their pretty smart people.
It also does have SW elite approval to offload deadweights into enemy territories, spy on them, culayska iyaga saara weeye and milk em, don't move till demographics shift in their favour as the elites then call for a census on Mogadishu(when ur long term interest land holdings is now in an effective political muran which Somalis usually giggle over in private marki kaagi la muran la geliyo) all for rags to riches scheme(which is a dream not reality unless U take small steps over time).
It's a cultural issue were corruption is at every section and level in the Somali people not just the leaders as many keep circling around.
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There isn't any elaborate plan at play. they are just trying to make ends meet. Nothing to do with scheming or large scale cooperation. If reer SWS had the culture that conjures such a multifaceted approach they'd have come up with something more effective.
Nolol malmaleed if managed well leads to them opening shops before its companies and coporates. U can accept the maskin mashruc if u want.
Plus their milking Somalis were it counts(crumbs) these corporates r itself just crumbs combined and shared with 20 ppl, no rich exists bro in hamar, what u got is wealthy upper class(dont confuse as rich) and 90% peasants and diaspora who holiday there or seek to expand their own interests but always run when the game is over, knowing no Somali is their saving grace.
Trust me even old school hawiye thought I was some moryan red eyed ancestor, I use to say I can't help my blood it's flows thru me also. Even Isaaqs hate me as they sense the moryanimo in me lol
they don't hate me cause I am Datod but they know I think like a moryan. Bro I wouldn't of been like this if I would been in Mogadishu pre 91 but I went in warlord era as diaspora, it does effect your outlook. I came back no more nonsense or identity crisis and realizsd everything just $$$ and that's power and ownership and u just judge anything by(Wats in it for me mindset hunguri). I won't share all the ways they taught me I will be here all day but they did say just learn the education in the west and never forget old school days there Tougj life lessons.
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Afrax I got quite unwell for a while when I came back from Mogadishu(undiagnosed obviously) but I shut out the world, studied in my own way and the Somali Moryan way of Western material, I also would remember all the red eyed schemes they were doing back then and planning for iyo wixi badeli laha(jumping on board the next gravy train).
I try to tell ppl Mogadishu when I was there in its darkest time was nothing like how the western world depicts it, I was there, hence I knew something wrong with Western world, doubt sowed and I just isolated.
Yes there was no govt, no schools, no police, courts, or anything state like, but it was still quite civil niyahow and only skirmishes over criminal enterprises which were various(checkpoints, airports, the big port was off topics for all clans fearing a huge edge), red eyed schemes in disorder projects globally and ordered projects(somalinimo and nation state), using western n Middle East as gateways to slowly poison ppl thru various means to facilitate a slow.crumble and use their edge(experience) while the victim has no real preparation for it.
But anyways when I came back sxb everyone in my life was just a transaction to me either their helping me in my goals to where I want to be or im being paid well while growing to the goals I want and then total isolation from anyone and everyone. It was later on where I had a psychotic break possibly due to all that.
I realized their advice from.those days that saved my life in that hell also and not to be nacas like most of them are mentally ill. I got in tune with a very dark force who I call hell, it was my eyes were red, my head on fire, I was seeing horrific things but concealing it due to my abtiyaal upbringing.
Anyways I accepted it as if God wants u in hell who r u to say otherwise, things started to gradually get better then, I cut a deal with iblis and satan(darkness like the dark sky at nite and angels are just like a few sprinkle of stars a minority in evil universe). Yeah we all want the javkpot and diamond stars but I accepted Satan and he even told me hell is named after Al.hawiyah like the real one sxb not these little scare mongering shit by mainstream religion.
I told him when I die I don't wanna die a coward only and I wanna die laughing my ass off at the ride and to put me in a Hilton in hell not around lil lowly jinn class, I said I don't even wanna buried on earth but burn me in a fire on earth and let my smoke join the jinn world but as the king of jinns.
