The Arab tribes are the real laandheere

[Step a side]

I know that the age of Somali maxaa is only 1600y While the first mention of Arabs and their tribes was in the ninth century BC

This is why we only started expansion recently. We didn’t have the numbers during the Abbasids or Ummayads

 

[awsaleban667]

Why did you wait until the 19th century because you got rifles from the Italians and Omanis
You could not do this in the 11th century like the Arabs
Somalis often hate each other and see each other as enemies. What happened here was a stroke of luck. The Oromo bovine epidemic struck and the Somalis benefited from this. It was not courage or intelligence

“The reason for this is that (the Arabs) are a savage nation, fully accustomed to savagery and the things that cause it. Savagery has become their character and nature. They enjoy it, because it means freedom from authority and no subservience to leadership. Such a natural disposition is the negation and antithesis of civilization. All the customary activities of the Arabs lead to travel and movement. This is the antithesis and negation of stationariness, which produces civilization. For instance, the Arabs need stones to set them up as supports for their cooking pots. So, they take them from buildings which they tear down to get the stones, and use them for that purpose. Wood, too, is needed by them for props for their tents and for use as tent poles for their dwellings. So, they tear down roofs to get the wood for that purpose. The very nature of their existence is the negation of building, which is the basis of civilization. This is the case with them quite generally. Furthermore, it is their nature to plunder whatever other people possess.” -Ibn Khaldun

 

[Riftvalley]

Why did you wait until the 19th century because you got rifles from the Italians and Omanis
You could not do this in the 11th century like the Arabs
Somalis often hate each other and see each other as enemies. What happened here was a stroke of luck. The Oromo bovine epidemic struck and the Somalis benefited from this. It was not courage or intelligence

Arabs had a unifying leader/religion much like the Mongolians. I don’t think Arabs are that much braver or fiercer than East Africans. One of the few places Muslim army got turned back was in Nubia. Xabasha invaded and controlled them before. Allah blesses them through Islam.

Honestly, I believe Oromos could have as much as conquests if they had converted to Islam early on.

 

[Khaem]

Arabs had a unifying leader/religion much like the Mongolians. I don’t think Arabs are that much braver or fiercer than East Africans. One of the few places Muslim army got turned back was in Nubia. Xabasha invaded and controlled them before. Allah blesses them through Islam.

Honestly, I believe Oromos could have as much as conquests if they had converted to Islam early on.

Oromo should've gone to Uganda and south. Why these niggas had to move north just to get bent over by Somali and Abyssinians. They could've pushed banc iron age sparse bantu tribes and farmed in one of the most fertile regions of the world but niggas came out of no where just to hate.

 

[mohammdov]

“The reason for this is that (the Arabs) are a savage nation, fully accustomed to savagery and the things that cause it. Savagery has become their character and nature. They enjoy it, because it means freedom from authority and no subservience to leadership. Such a natural disposition is the negation and antithesis of civilization. All the customary activities of the Arabs lead to travel and movement. This is the antithesis and negation of stationariness, which produces civilization. For instance, the Arabs need stones to set them up as supports for their cooking pots. So, they take them from buildings which they tear down to get the stones, and use them for that purpose. Wood, too, is needed by them for props for their tents and for use as tent poles for their dwellings. So, they tear down roofs to get the wood for that purpose. The very nature of their existence is the negation of building, which is the basis of civilization. This is the case with them quite generally. Furthermore, it is their nature to plunder whatever other people possess.” -Ibn Khaldun

Ibn Khaldun hated the Arabs because they were chasing him and expelling him from Tunisia

 

[awsaleban667]

Ibn Khaldun hated the Arabs because they were chasing him and expelling him from Tunisia

Blah Blah Nigga

 

[محمود فارح]

His lineage is most likely fake

We do not know, but so far we cannot “challenge” their lineage, but when I see the features of their prince, I see that he does not resemble the Arabs, but I will think well of him and say that his father is married to an Amazigh woman.

 

[mohammdov]

Arabs had a unifying leader/religion much like the Mongolians. I don’t think Arabs are that much braver or fiercer than East Africans. One of the few places Muslim army got turned back was in Nubia. Xabasha invaded and controlled them before. Allah blesses them through Islam.

Honestly, I believe Oromos could have as much as conquests if they had converted to Islam early on.

The Arabs do not have weapons like the Europeans. How do you think they got all of this? It was only with horses and swords
The Arabs did not care about the Nubians because they had nothing, but they imposed a jazyaha on them
If the Arabs really wanted to invade the Somalis, it would have been very easy. The people were dispersed and few in number

 

[Riftvalley]

The Arabs do not have weapons like the Europeans. How do you think they got all of this? It was only with horses and swords
The Arabs did not care about the Nubians because they had nothing, but they imposed a jazyaha on them
If the Arabs really wanted to invade the Somalis, it would have been very easy. The people were dispersed and few in number

Haye Dhegecase

 

[mohammdov]

Haye Dhegecase

Stop using this racist word. You don't like Arabs calling you black

 

[Khaem]

The Arabs do not have weapons like the Europeans. How do you think they got all of this? It was only with horses and swords
The Arabs did not care about the Nubians because they had nothing, but they imposed a jazyaha on them
If the Arabs really wanted to invade the Somalis, it would have been very easy. The people were dispersed and few in number

You make it out like they were this unstoppable force. I have nothing against Arabs but your booty clapping is outrageous.

Nubia was one of the largest producers of gold. It wasn't "nothing"

Arabs couldn't invade Somalia and if they did they'd be facing similarly numerous armies of angry nomads. They would not conquer the same way you fantasie in your wet dreams. And same way the Arabs couldn't get to Axum, it was the Habash to colonised yemen barley a century before the prophet's birth.

We are talking about pre industrial warfare. Horses and swords is all they had. Arabs fought with the same sets that Europeans and everyone else did ffs even nomadic tribes in central Asia had full steel body armour in 200AD.

The Arabs didn't just blitz through by skill alone, it was perfectly timed opportunistic invasion. Much like the Oromo tribes invading into the weakened Abyssinia and Adal. The Arab tribes saw Persia and Rome were weakened after nonstop war and took the chance. It is still seen as one of histories greatest miracles.

 

[Khaem]

Stop using this racist word. You don't like Arabs calling you black

Amous deghace

 

[Riftvalley]

Stop using this racist word. You don't like Arabs calling you black

It is not racist. And, I would never be a victim to an Arab. But the whole vibe emanating from this thread is cringe, so I’ll exit with this comment.

 

[New World]

Oromo should've gone to Uganda and south. Why these niggas had to move north just to get bent over by Somali and Abyssinians. They could've pushed banc iron age sparse bantu tribes and farmed in one of the most fertile regions of the world but niggas came out of no where just to hate.

I suspect that the reason is due to disease. Is this the same reason why our people didn't move further into East Africa?

 

[mohammdov]

You make it out like they were this unstoppable force. I have nothing against Arabs but your booty clapping is outrageous.

Nubia was one of the largest producers of gold. It wasn't "nothing"

Arabs couldn't invade Somalia and if they did they'd be facing similarly numerous armies of angry nomads. They would not conquer the same way you fantasie in your wet dreams. And same way the Arabs couldn't get to Axum, it was the Habash to colonised yemen barley a century before the prophet's birth.

We are talking about pre industrial warfare. Horses and swords is all they had. Arabs fought with the same sets that Europeans and everyone else did ffs even nomadic tribes in central Asia had full steel body armour in 200AD.

The Arabs didn't just blitz through by skill alone, it was perfectly timed opportunistic invasion. Much like the Oromo tribes invading into the weakened Abyssinia and Adal. The Arab tribes saw Persia and Rome were weakened after nonstop war and took the chance. It is still seen as one of histories greatest miracles.

Allah is who helped the Arabs to make the rest of the people Muslims. They where people saying Allah Akbar aginst people worship fire and Christ And pagans
As I said, jazyaha were imposed on Sudan, gold,slaves, everything, and the Arabs were interested in invading North Africa and Spain which was richer and more civilized.

As for Aksum, it was ruled by the Yemenis for centuries, which is why they speak and use the South Arabic letters and language
The Axumites ruled Yemen only 520-575
Then Saif bin Dhi Yazan defeated them, and you know what happened to Abraha’s army that invaded Kaaba

 

[Riftvalley]

You make it out like they were this unstoppable force. I have nothing against Arabs but your booty clapping is outrageous.

Nubia was one of the largest producers of gold. It wasn't "nothing"

Arabs couldn't invade Somalia and if they did they'd be facing similarly numerous armies of angry nomads. They would not conquer the same way you fantasie in your wet dreams. And same way the Arabs couldn't get to Axum, it was the Habash to colonised yemen barley a century before the prophet's birth.

We are talking about pre industrial warfare. Horses and swords is all they had. Arabs fought with the same sets that Europeans and everyone else did ffs even nomadic tribes in central Asia had full steel body armour in 200AD.

The Arabs didn't just blitz through by skill alone, it was perfectly timed opportunistic invasion. Much like the Oromo tribes invading into the weakened Abyssinia and Adal. The Arab tribes saw Persia and Rome were weakened after nonstop war and took the chance. It is still seen as one of histories greatest miracles.

A bunch of Bantu slaves ran amok in the heart of Iraq. They even took Basra at one point and it took 2 years for the Arab kings to subdue them.

Black power

Ps. Let’s not turn the conquests of the Sahaba into a racial debate. And we don’t always need to have a go @ Somalis to praise others.

 

[Khaem]

Allah is who helped the Arabs to make the rest of the people Muslims. They where people saying Allah Akbar aginst people worship fire and Christ And pagans
As I said, jazyaha were imposed on Sudan, gold,slaves, everything, and the Arabs were interested in invading North Africa and Spain which was richer and more civilized.

As for Aksum, it was ruled by the Yemenis for centuries, which is why they speak and use the South Arabic letters and language
The Axumites ruled Yemen only 520-575
Then Saif bin Dhi Yazan defeated them, and you know what happened to Abraha’s army that invaded Kaaba

Axum was never ruled by yemenis you idiot. It was habasha and some kings were straight up Cushitic Agaw. Last time yemen was relevant in the horn was 3,000 years ago.

 

[Abdisamadi]

Oromo should've gone to Uganda and south. Why these niggas had to move north just to get bent over by Somali and Abyssinians. They could've pushed banc iron age sparse bantu tribes and farmed in one of the most fertile regions of the world but niggas came out of no where just to hate.

Oromos were fighting the expanding Abysinnians in the 14th century, if you read their myths it says there was a monster swallowing the land and enslaving people, I believe this was a reference to Ennarea and the surrounding Habesha Pagan kingdoms, as well as the Sidama kingdoms

 

[Khaem]

A bunch of Bantu slaves ran amok in the heart of Iraq. They even took Basra at one point and it took 2 years for the Arab kings to subdue them.

Black power

Ps. Let’s not turn the conquests of the Sahaba into a racial debate. And we don’t always need to have a go @ Somalis to praise others.

This @mohammdov person is a negro of the highest order. When I met turk nationalists and others who say Arabism/Arab nationalism since the 1900s is the reason they do not like Islam I think they're stupid. But then you see people like him I see their respective.

 

[mohammdov]

A bunch of Bantu slaves ran amok in the heart of Iraq. They even took Basra at one point and it took 2 years for the Arab kings to subdue them.

Black power

Ps. Let’s not turn the conquests of the Sahaba into a racial debate. And we don’t always need to have a go @ Somalis to praise others.

They were not Bantu, they were Xabashi
They were led by an Arab, and many Arabs joined them