The African who built an empire in India

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  1. Baashaal

    Baashaal Adoonke Alle

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    Interesting:hmm:

    What is you guys' take on this
     
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  2. CaliTedesse

    CaliTedesse صومال ابن كوش

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    let me guess without watching: Malik Ambar
     
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  3. riyaale

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    That oromo boy is famous lol
     
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  4. Waaqo of Punt

    Waaqo of Punt

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    Do we know if he's Oromo? Sounds like he could be a jareer/barya.
     
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  6. Baashaal

    Baashaal Adoonke Alle

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    :gucciwhat::mjlol::russ::dead1:
     
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  7. CaliTedesse

    CaliTedesse صومال ابن كوش

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    True
     
  8. SOMALI GENERAL

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    He was likely a Habesha or Oromo.
     
  9. Waaqo of Punt

    Waaqo of Punt

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    Definitely not habesha. He was picked up in Southern Ethiopia and got converted to Islam. He was either an Oromo pagan or barya slave. It's impossible for a habesha Christian to get enslaved like that lol.
     
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    It was definitely rare for a Habesha Christian to become a slave at that time. He could potentially have been Omotic as well.

    Many historical documents lazily describe any slave coming from Abysinnia vaguely as a "Abysinnian/Ethiopian slave" and omit the actual ethnic identity of the slave(s).
     
  11. Waaqo of Punt

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    Yh that's so annoying. Arabs and Indohyars often described the whole horn as 'xabasha' or 'Ethiopian', even towards Somalis. 'Somali' is actually a much newer term compared to how Ethios were known (xabash, Ehiops, etc)
     
  12. SOMALI GENERAL

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    No. Somalis weren't seen as part of the land of Habesh. To outsiders, our land was called the land of the Berbers(Barbaria or Berbera).

    Outsiders knew there were two distinct over-arching cultural groups in the Horn, the Christian Semitic-speaking Habeshas(Amharas, Tigrays etc) and the Muslim Hamitic/Cushitic-speaking Berbers(Somalis, Beja, Afars, Saho etc).
     
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  13. Waaqo of Punt

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    You're right but I remember some documents on a hiistorian n traveller that stated that the Somalis were also identified as Ethiopian by Ajnabis. It wasn't a huge docum,entation but for a time we were def bunched up with Ethios.
     
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    Of course some historical documents will cause confusion, but generally the Horn was always divided into those two main cultural zones.
     
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  15. Libaaxseendheer

    Libaaxseendheer Guul ama geeri

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    He was definitely a cushite
    He was described by the Dutch merchant Pieter van den Broecke as, "a black kafir from Abyssinia with a stern Roman face."[6][7]
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  16. Som

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    Nope
    Habesha hot enslaved from time to time by muslim afars and arabs
     
  17. Waaqo of Punt

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    False.
     
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  20. Som

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    Dead carefully walaal
     

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