The African who built an empire in India

[Baashaal]

Interesting

What is you guys' take on this

 

[CaliTedesse]

let me guess without watching: Malik Ambar

 

[riyaale]

let me guess without watching: Malik Ambar

That oromo boy is famous lol

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Do we know if he's Oromo? Sounds like he could be a Madow/barya.

 

[land owner]

Gandhi wuz black

 

[Baashaal]

Ghandi wuz black

 

[CaliTedesse]

Do we know if he's Oromo? Sounds like he could be a Madow/barya.

True

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Do we know if he's Oromo? Sounds like he could be a Madow/barya.

He was likely a Habesha or Oromo.

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

He was likely a Habesha or Oromo.

Definitely not habesha. He was picked up in Southern Ethiopia and got converted to Islam. He was either an Oromo pagan or barya slave. It's impossible for a habesha Christian to get enslaved like that lol.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Definitely not habesha. He was picked up in Southern Ethiopia and got converted to Islam. He was either an Oromo pagan or barya slave. It's impossible for a habesha Christian to get enslaved like that lol.

It was definitely rare for a Habesha Christian to become a slave at that time. He could potentially have been Omotic as well.

Many historical documents lazily describe any slave coming from Abysinnia vaguely as a "Abysinnian/Ethiopian slave" and omit the actual ethnic identity of the slave(s).

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Many historical documents lazily describe any slave coming from Abysinnia vaguely as a "Abysinnian/Ethiopian slave" and omit the actual ethnic identity of the slave(s).

Yh that's so annoying. Arabs and Indohyars often described the whole horn as 'xabasha' or 'Ethiopian', even towards Somalis. 'Somali' is actually a much newer term compared to how Ethios were known (xabash, Ehiops, etc)

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Yh that's so annoying. Arabs and Indohyars often described the whole horn as 'xabasha' or 'Ethiopian', even towards Somalis. 'Somali' is actually a much newer term compared to how Ethios were known (xabash, Ehiops, etc)

No. Somalis weren't seen as part of the land of Habesh. To outsiders, our land was called the land of the Berbers(Barbaria or Berbera).

Outsiders knew there were two distinct over-arching cultural groups in the Horn, the Christian Semitic-speaking Habeshas(Amharas, Tigrays etc) and the Muslim Hamitic/Cushitic-speaking Berbers(Somalis, Beja, Afars, Saho etc).

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

No. Somalis weren't seen as part of the land of Habesh. To outsiders, our land was called the land of the Berbers(Barbaria or Berbera).

Outsiders knew there were two distinct over-arching cultural groups in the Horn, the Christian Semitic-speaking Habeshas(Amharas, Tigrays etc) and the Muslim Hamitic/Cushitic-speaking Berbers(Somalis, Beja, Afars, Saho etc).

You're right but I remember some documents on a hiistorian n traveller that stated that the Somalis were also identified as Ethiopian by Ajnabis. It wasn't a huge docum,entation but for a time we were def bunched up with Ethios.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

You're right but I remember some documents on a hiistorian n traveller that stated that the Somalis were also identified as Ethiopian by Ajnabis. It wasn't a huge docum,entation but for a time we were def bunched up with Ethios.

Of course some historical documents will cause confusion, but generally the Horn was always divided into those two main cultural zones.

 

[Libaaxseendheer]

He was definitely a cushite
He was described by the Dutch merchant Pieter van den Broecke as, "a black kafir from Abyssinia with a stern Roman face."[6][7]

 

[Som]

Definitely not habesha. He was picked up in Southern Ethiopia and got converted to Islam. He was either an Oromo pagan or barya slave. It's impossible for a habesha Christian to get enslaved like that lol.

Nope
Habesha hot enslaved from time to time by muslim afars and arabs

 

[Waaqo of Punt]

Habesha hot enslaved from time to time by muslim afars and arabs

False.

 

[Som]

False.

https://books.google.it/books?id=NZ...66QKHTWAA5YQ6AEwDHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=amhara enslaved afar&f=false

Here is a source

 

[madaxweyne]

https://books.google.it/books?id=NZ...66QKHTWAA5YQ6AEwDHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=amhara enslaved afar&f=false

Here is a source

Bro the afars got conquerd by the xabash and the Arabs mostly enslaved the swahili coast never the horn

Ps your link did not mention any slavery by Arabs and afars on xabashis just the multi ethnic society of Ethiopia

 

[Som]

Bro the afars got conquerd by the xabash and the Arabs mostly enslaved the swahili coast never the horn

Ps your link did not mention any slavery by Arabs and afars on xabashis just the multi ethnic society of Ethiopia

Dead carefully walaal