Ted Cruz wants to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a "terrorist" organization

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[Abaq]

Excellent move. These terrorists have destroyed many countries. About time they are stopped.

 

[tyrannicalmanager]

Excellent move. These terrorists have destroyed many countries. About time they are stopped.

which ones?

 

[Abaq]

which ones?

Muslim Brotherhood and their offshoots ISIS, Al Qaeda, Nusra etc.

 

[Aurelian]

Muslim Brotherhood and their offshoots ISIS, Al Qaeda, Nusra etc.

can you proof the link between the MB and these groups?

 

[Revolutionary]

Muslim Brotherhood and their offshoots ISIS, Al Qaeda, Nusra etc.

There is no link between the Muslim Brotherhood and the other organizations you've mentioned

 

[Revolutionary]

This is a terrible move, the MB affiliated parties exist all over the muslim world and are apart of actual governments

 

[المهندس]

@Ebuo @Revolutionary he is probably talking about in reference to sayyid qutb since these deviant groups quote him.

 

[Abaq]

There is no link between the Muslim Brotherhood and the other organizations you've mentioned

Mu sincerest advice is to research this affair. Figureheads of the Muslim Brotherhood, such as Sayid Qutb, are the spiritual leaders of those groups. That's why terrorists like Bin Laden and Awlaki etc. all speak highly of Qutb and his books. They inherited takfir and armed rebellion directly from him. And Islamically speaking, they are all under the general Khawarij sect. All of this is from only one angle.

 

[Abaq]

This is a terrible move, the MB affiliated parties exist all over the muslim world and are apart of actual governments

The Muslim Brotherhood has one aim, getting power, and two methods for achieving that with two wings of the group dedicated to each. One wing is the Bana'iyah, named after Hasan al Bana the founder, who believes power should be achieved through civic means of elections, protests etc. Then there is the Qutbi wing, named after Sayid Qutb, which is the hardcore takfiri wing which believes power can only be attained by violent revolution against the "apostate" governments. All ikhwani parties the world over have these two wings and which one is manifested depends on the particular countries situation and what situation they think will work best.

An example of this is the Ikhwanis in Somalia, Ictisaam aka Ittihaad, which are the forefathers of the ICU and subsequently Al Shabab (another example of the link). In the 90s and 2000s Qutbis were in charge and they engaged in warfare and Takfir. However, in the 2010s, the Bana'iyah wing gained ascendancy and they entered government and politics. All of a sudden you had individuals who would call for Jihad and closet takfir calling to obey and work with the Government! (The most famous example is Sh Umal and his famous about turn). The Qutbis then went on their own (formed Al Shabab etc), and they continued their armed rebellion. Famous Qutbi ikhwanis include Hasan Sh Aweys and "Sheikh" Hasaan from Nairobi who publically called out Umal and his likes for their hypocrisy and "betraying" the struggle.

Now this doesn't mean Ictisam is Somalia has given up on violence. No, it means that they feel the political system suits their interests at the current time. Should they situation change, then they are ready to return to violence. As one former member put it, Maxamed Cabdi Daahir, they all keep their filled guns at home "waa qori cabbaysan".

 

[Abaq]

In short, the MB is a dangerous organization whose only aim is to get power by whatever means. There's nothing Islamic about them at all. They only use Islam as they know it sells. When they do get power, they don't implement the Shariah they used to call for (Mursi is a good example).

 

[Abaq]

can you proof the link between the MB and these groups?

You just have to listen to the leaders of these groups and read their writings (not that I would recommend you do that). They are Qutbis through and through.

 

[Aurelian]

You just have to listen to the leaders of these groups and read their writings (not that I would recommend you do that). They are Qutbis through and through.

One or two of what they say?

 

[AMusee]

The only people who consider Muslim Brotherhood a problem are arab governments who fear them, because they know the people support them.

Beyond that only Islamophobes fear them. They are simply actual muslims who believe in democracy and have actual morals.

@Abaq is undoubtedly a gaal. Maybe a gulf arab troll, explains the shalom.

 

[AMusee]

Obviously Ted Cruz is being pushed to say this by rich gulf arabs (UAE) and is more than happy to comply being the creepy bible thumping muslim hater he is.

 

[Uncle ruckus]

Muslim Brotherhood and their offshoots ISIS, Al Qaeda, Nusra etc.

Stop lying none of those related to the MB

 

[Omar del Sur]

Mu sincerest advice is to research this affair. Figureheads of the Muslim Brotherhood, such as Sayid Qutb, are the spiritual leaders of those groups. That's why terrorists like Bin Laden and Awlaki etc. all speak highly of Qutb and his books. They inherited takfir and armed rebellion directly from him. And Islamically speaking, they are all under the general Khawarij sect. All of this is from only one angle.

Don't they also quote Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah?

 

[Maxaa kaa galay]

Lol when will these people rest 20 triłlions in debt 40 million muricans in poverty and unemployeed, and they still want to act as the world police let the world handle its problems, stop dropping arms to rebel groups as Barack Drone Hussein admitted with isis. Stop giving brand new Toyotas to "freedom fighters" stop setting bases were you dont belong, stop giving money to dictators around the world. Maybe if they stopped all this the world and the various People would solve their own problem.

 

[Ismail99]

The Muslim Brotherhood has one aim, getting power, and two methods for achieving that with two wings of the group dedicated to each. One wing is the Bana'iyah, named after Hasan al Bana the founder, who believes power should be achieved through civic means of elections, protests etc. Then there is the Qutbi wing, named after Sayid Qutb, which is the hardcore takfiri wing which believes power can only be attained by violent revolution against the "apostate" governments. All ikhwani parties the world over have these two wings and which one is manifested depends on the particular countries situation and what situation they think will work best.

An example of this is the Ikhwanis in Somalia, Ictisaam aka Ittihaad, which are the forefathers of the ICU and subsequently Al Shabab (another example of the link). In the 90s and 2000s Qutbis were in charge and they engaged in warfare and Takfir. However, in the 2010s, the Bana'iyah wing gained ascendancy and they entered government and politics. All of a sudden you had individuals who would call for Jihad and closet takfir calling to obey and work with the Government! (The most famous example is Sh Umal and his famous about turn). The Qutbis then went on their own (formed Al Shabab etc), and they continued their armed rebellion. Famous Qutbi ikhwanis include Hasan Sh Aweys and "Sheikh" Hasaan from Nairobi who publically called out Umal and his likes for their hypocrisy and "betraying" the struggle.

Now this doesn't mean Ictisam is Somalia has given up on violence. No, it means that they feel the political system suits their interests at the current time. Should they situation change, then they are ready to return to violence. As one former member put it, Maxamed Cabdi Daahir, they all keep their filled guns at home "waa qori cabbaysan".

When did Xasaan and Aweys become ikhwaanis?

 

[Abaq]

The only people who consider Muslim Brotherhood a problem are arab governments who fear them, because they know the people support them.

Beyond that only Islamophobes fear them. They are simply actual muslims who believe in democracy and have actual morals.

@Abaq is undoubtedly a gaal. Maybe a gulf arab troll, explains the shalom.

How can you call a gaal just like that? This is the takfir the ikhwanis are filled with.