Sultaanka Harti and Gudida Difaaca Sanaag meet up with President Siciid Cabdullahi Deni

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

Reaffirming Puntland role in the upcoming battle of Ceerigaabo.


The defence committee and Puntland Sanaag generals are in talks with Deni , much of the discussion involving the conflict

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Puntland will either defend its lands or it will accept the emergence of Maakhir. Wixii intaa u dhexeeya waa munaafiqnimo.

Glad to see Deni is taking this seriously. This operation against the khwaarij needs to be wrapped up quickly.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

Puntland will either defend its lands or it will accept the emergence of Maakhir. Wixii intaa u dhexeeye waa munaafiqnimo.

Glad to see Deni is taking this seriously. This operation against the khwaarij needs to be wrapped up quickly.

Isaaq have the full support of Somaliland qabyaaliste government, likewise we will seek the assistance of Puntland when it regards the defence.

 

[New World]

Does this mean SSC is joining in ??

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

Does this mean SSC is joining in ??

Don't know

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[DR OSMAN]

Reaffirming Puntland role in the upcoming battle of Ceerigaabo.


The defence committee and Puntland Sanaag generals are in talks with Deni , much of the discussion involving the conflict

It's time to free Erigavo. Is it true the SL militias evicted Hartis or Harti civilians fled and lots of looting happened? These dude are like HAG who fight unarmed civilians(a true sign of a coward fearing to fight armed men).

Let's show them they have an Army like Goojacade. I also heard they stole 40 SQ KM worth of land from Warsangeli, If true this needs immediate rectifying. That's 13 New York Central Park worth of land.

That's like 4 km of land length and width in a square, this is unacceptable considering Somalia as a whole is 637 KM by 637 km of area if put in a box. 100,000 meters is 100 km on either side(length or width).

Since Somalia 637,000 Meters(width and length) that's 637 KM on length and width.

Me when I hear Land losses, my rants and debate all comes to a halt.

Something your ancestors left in your care(land) and another man takes it, xitaa akhiradina ayaa shaki ku jiro iyo ceeb aduun. Plus land is limited globally(75% is water), 25% remain. Somalia is even more limited on land and can't afford losses.

Finally The Sultan has declared the Erigavo treaty null n void and has collapsed due to SL violations and Breaches. The war has no legal fall out.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I should be able to cover Somalia in 637 KM Horizontal and 637 KM vertical x 2 more sides.

It's basically 637 KM on each corner to corner and box has 4 points or sides. Thats 634 x 4 which is 2548 KM worth of land in Somalia. You could drive thru Somalia in 1 day(25 hours) if travelling 100 km speed(constant).

Not sure why distances take so long there due to poor infrastructure which is crucial assessment tool for investors(lost time means lost money and expenses piling up). I hope PL don't f*ck around with road corridor projects it impacts investor confidence.

Investors look at energy infrastructure(not just price of it but the reliability of power supply as outages during work hours means lost time n money and if they pile up it means lost revenues).

They look at your road airports and ports also as this is in and out of supply chains or people(if a second of time is lost, your black listed). They also look at your governance, rule of law, stability predictability(lost time on volatility or instability is unacceptable risk).

Fix these fucking areas what are they doing for 20 years because ur past history is indicator of your future performance, they see your last 25 years track record and say this is all u got to show for it? your black listed as unproductive.

You cutt corners with infrastructure whether hard(port, airports, road, energy backbone, drainage, sewage, clean water, food security) or soft(education n health) you also committed suicide as it's the only thing measured by investors not silly buildings.

PL is not ready for Business at best it's in recovery stage(very slow recovery compared to other civil war countries)

U would have to be suicidal as the conditions(hard n soft infrastructure access, quality and coverage, good governance, rule of law) are simply very primitive and would have to be graded as high risk to investors reports.

 

[Bari]

SSC(Mostly Naleeye Axmed)started a war they cant finish and forced the hand of warsangeli,awal nabad baa meesha loogu joogay. i've always maintained that Bari, Nugaal and North Mudug baa noogu filan as puntlanders. Anytime the guys in SSC commit rabsho they rely on PL/MJ to clean their mess. Deni needs to have a hands off policy with these guys, give up the lands of Sool and Sanaag and let Harti waqooyi decide for themselves whether or not they fall under one maamul, 2 maamuls or go back to Somaliland.In 2029 i'd hope the 17 dh xilibaans decrease to around 4(representing their people in PL territory) and Warsan from 9 to 5 xildhibaans. Dhulkaan maaha meel laysku heeshiin doono, dadka meesha jooga ayahooda haka tashadaan.

 

[Bari]

@DR OSMAN chill with the dhul balaarsi, dadkaan kuma rabaan, dhad ku rabin layskuma xoqxoqo ina adeer, they should have their lands under whatever maamul they desire(khaatumo/Maakhir). You know how somalis are, cid cidkale uu talinayso majidho, marka we should have a hands off policy. Harti waqooy soo landheere maaha, ha iss difaacaan, meesha waa SSB iyo muuse ismaciil kaliya, isbahaysi qarameed hasnt happened yet, thats they only time i concede that our intervention is warranted.

 

[DR OSMAN]

SSC(Mostly Naleeye Axmed)started a war they cant finish, i've always maintained that Bari, Nugaal and North Mudug baa noogu filan as puntlanders. Anytime the guys in SSC commit rabsho they rely on PL/MJ to clean their mess. Deni needs to have a hands off policy with these guys, give up the lands of Sool and Sanaag and let Harti waqooyi decide for themselves whether or not they fall under one maamul, 2 maamuls or go back to Somaliland.In 2029 i'd hope the 17 dh xilibaans decrease to around 4(representing their people in PL territory) and Warsan from 9 to 5 xildhibaans. Dhulkaan maaha meel laysku heeshiin doono, dadka meesha jooga ayahooda haka tashadaan.

I disagree strongly as long as Somalia security and political situations remain fragile and the rule of law is clan, why would we divide harti or even darod when irir clowns want us all in the same boat under their boots(that's a damn common existential threat).

If u watch them marehan or ogs or harti fall, u stand alone as a sitting duck with all irir n their darod hostages outside your galkayo and garowe using 5 direction war. MJ can fight all Somali clans now?

sxb faan isn't needed stop harming your ppl future existence thru theatrics of bravado.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@DR OSMAN chill with the dhul balaarsi, dadkaan kuma rabaan, dhad ku rabin layskuma xoqxoqo ina adeer, they should have their lands under whatever maamul they desire(khaatumo/Maakhir). You know how somalis are, cid cidkale uu talinayso majidho, marka we should have a hands off policy. Harti waqooy soo landheere maaha, ha iss difaacaan, meesha waa SSB iyo muuse ismaciil kaliya, isbahaysi qarameed hasnt happened yet, thats they only time i concede that our intervention is warranted.

SL don't have clan reserve militias and official Govt forces like PL. They have one army different bases and inventory but it's under centralised structure not thru a mix of centralised and decentralised options like PL. If SL centralised army falls the whole state falls. If PL centralised army falls, a shitload of clan reserves can fill the void.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Bari

Darod is abstractly a Tree root.

Harti, Absame, Sade, Tanade, Awrtable, their 5 trunks. You saying let's not only get rid of Harti Trunk but split the Bah Majerten Branch(into mohamed and maxamud sub branches) While u also promote other Trunks in Darod to fall like Sade, Absame, 2 huge trunks. So u basically want 2 or 3 million ppl left in the darod tree what a brilliant fkn strategy, u can't make this shit up seriously.

The way u r heading u want that tree to eventually loose the root and we are all screwed then. Either u think ina igaare bravado faan theatrics is some weapon which it isn't or your working for non darod clans interest.

 

[Bari]

@Bari

Darod is abstractly a Tree root.

Harti, Absame, Sade, Tanade, Awrtable, their 5 trunks. You saying let's not only get rid of Harti Trunk but split the Bah Majerten Branch(into mohamed and maxamud sub branches) While u also promote other Trunks in Darod to fall like Sade, Absame, 2 huge trunks. So u basically want 2 or 3 million ppl left in the darod tree what a brilliant fkn strategy, u can't make this shit up seriously.

The way u r heading u want that tree to eventually loose the root and we are all screwed then. Either u think ina igaare bravado faan theatrics is some weapon which it isn't or your working for non darod clans interest.

Im pro Darood unity to counter irir influence however under different maamul goboleeds. We need SSC/Maakhir, PL and JL to work together in order to retain our influence in Somalia. Im also in support of MX taking over GM politically if they have the capacity to do so. What i dont support is usurping Harti waqooyi land for no apparent reason, them having their own maamul goboleed serves daroods favourably in the long run. Its a win win, they get to run their land and D5 maintain political power.

 

[_Yusuf_]

Reaffirming Puntland role in the upcoming battle of Ceerigaabo.


The defence committee and Puntland Sanaag generals are in talks with Deni , much of the discussion involving the conflict

Harti taking Ceerigaabo would be a game changer.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

SSC(Mostly Naleeye Axmed)started a war they cant finish and forced the hand of warsangeli,awal nabad baa meesha loogu joogay. i've always maintained that Bari, Nugaal and North Mudug baa noogu filan as puntlanders. Anytime the guys in SSC commit rabsho they rely on PL/MJ to clean their mess. Deni needs to have a hands off policy with these guys, give up the lands of Sool and Sanaag and let Harti waqooyi decide for themselves whether or not they fall under one maamul, 2 maamuls or go back to Somaliland.In 2029 i'd hope the 17 dh xilibaans decrease to around 4(representing their people in PL territory) and Warsan from 9 to 5 xildhibaans. Dhulkaan maaha meel laysku heeshiin doono, dadka meesha jooga ayahooda haka tashadaan.

It's always the PL chauvinists from Bari who talk the most xaar , Calmiskad has 700 ciidan from Sanaag alone lead by General Xanano.

And 50 men died to protect Calmiskad while you spew cuqdad from your armed chair handicap waaxid


Puntland anaga baa iska leh too.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

Harti taking Ceerigaabo would be a game changer.

It's gonna happen


The guddi is in Bosaso for a reason

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[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

Sultaanka Harti also met with Caaqilka Guud of Beesha Dubeys in Bari


Caaqil Cabdi Faarax

@Throughbred first time I see Sanaag , Haylan and Bari in the same place.


Elders from Ceerigaabo, Dhahar, Badhan and Bosaso

 

[DR OSMAN]

Sultaanka Harti also met with Caaqilka Guud of Beesha Dubeys in Bari


Caaqil Cabdi Faarax

@Throughbred first time I see Sanaag , Haylan and Bari in the same place.


Elders from Ceerigaabo, Dhahar, Badhan and Bosaso

I need to know your response did Warsangeli lose 40 by 40 sq km land which is 4 km X 4 km length and width X 4 sides(square)? Travel 4 km right now, stop, travel another 4 km horizontally then basically get an idea of what sort of land loss your clan has claimed it has lost to Isaaq.

Land is limited bro, the world is 75% water and only 25% is land. Land is an ancestoraI inheritance(requires fierce resistance) and may even jeopardize you in death wallahi akhiradina ayaa shaki ku jiro, plus ceeb aduun. As you see Canada and Greenland fierce response to Trump on a land grab.

 

[Throughbred]

Sultaanka Harti also met with Caaqilka Guud of Beesha Dubeys in Bari


Caaqil Cabdi Faarax

@Throughbred first time I see Sanaag , Haylan and Bari in the same place.


Elders from Ceerigaabo, Dhahar, Badhan and Bosaso

Very good