Sufis vs Jihadists in Mogadishu (NYT article (May 16)

[Hnomo]

 

[NordicSomali]

When is this from?

 

[Hnomo]

When is this from?

Today

 

[Hnomo]

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/sufis-vs-jihadists-in-mogadishu-somalia-al-shabaab-radical-terror-49efaa6a?mod=e2fb

 

[El Nino]

Suufida are here to stay, especially gobolada dhexe. They are armed and strong, AS already failed in defeating them. I would even say they will consolidate power in Galmudug in the long run.
However, southern Somalias fate might be different.

@Kun_Ciil

How is the situation in koonfuur. Has sufism been eradicated in AS held areas? I probably wager that has happened.

 

[reer]

Suufida are here to stay, especially gobolada dhexe. They are armed and strong, AS already failed in defeating them. I would even say they will consolidate power in Galmudug in the long run.
However, southern Somalias fate might be different.

@Kun_Ciil

How is the situation in koonfuur. Has sufism been eradicated in AS held areas? I probably wager that has happened.

the qadiriyya sufi beliefs arent acceptable to a lot more people because of modernity. so when people become urban/reer magaal they see their beliefs as lunacy. if you tell them the kaba was brought to dhusamareb theyll laugh.

 

[Hnomo]

Suufida are here to stay, especially gobolada dhexe. They are armed and strong, AS already failed in defeating them. I would even say they will consolidate power in Galmudug in the long run.
However, southern Somalias fate might be different.

They got the will to fight. Southern-Somalis are exhausted. They’re gonna go about their days. Whether FGS is there or AS.

 

[Hnomo]

@El Nino Thoughts will FGS will get funding during weeks Doha conference?

 

[El Nino]

the qadiriyya sufi beliefs arent acceptable to a lot more people because of modernity. so when people become urban/reer magaal they see their beliefs as lunacy. if you tell them the kaba was brought to dhusamareb theyll laugh.

I believe they can retain and even gain people if they drop the ridiculous stuff, i.e celebrating Mawlid and everything regarding graves. Amaanta nabiga / dhikr from what I have under is not sinful. Inshallah a group like that emerges.

 

[Riftvalley]

Those sufis are just bunch of Ethiopian agents who steal from the poor. AS dumb to have tried to enforce a wahabi state when Somalis of different sects live side by side.

 

[Burqad]

This is the dumbest article I’ve ever seen on Somalia, and there are a lot of dumb articles

 

[reer]

I believe they can retain and even gain people if they drop the ridiculous stuff, i.e celebrating Mawlid and everything regarding graves. Amaanta nabiga / dhikr from what I have under is not sinful. Inshallah a group like that emerges.

the problem is the ridiculous stuff is in their qadiriyyah literature. its 2025 reer magaal dont take them seriously.
this is an excerpt from a book called munaaqibka they read. it falsely says an imam said this:

وأعلم رمل الأرض كم هو رملة
وأعلم علم الله أحصي حروفه
وأعلم موج البحر كم هو موجة

I know the sand of the earth, how much sand it is.
I know the knowledge of God, I can count its letters.
I know the waves of the sea, how much they are waves.

 

[Hnomo]

This is the dumbest article I’ve ever seen on Somalia, and there are a lot of dumb articles

A New York liberal press. Which HSM invited them to Somalia. In order to prove something to Trump. He did same piece with them previously. Saying that AS will blow up ships. If they lose funding for AMISOM. Its HSM antics

 

[Vacelere]

Both are armed radical militants and they should be stopped.

 

[Burqad]

the problem is the ridiculous stuff is in their qadiriyyah literature. its 2025 reer magaal dont take them seriously.
this is an excerpt from a book called munaaqibka they read. it falsely says an imam said this:

If Qadariyahs were in charge the Somali education rate would be 2 percent and everyone would be living in caves. There’s a reason all major corporations in Somalia are run by like Ictisamites or at least Salixiyas. They are v ignorant people.

 

[Burqad]

They are like the snake worshipping Hillbillies in America. The Sayid (aun) didn’t kill enough.

 

[reer]

They are like the snake worshipping Hillbillies in America. The Sayid (aun) didn’t kill enough.

sayidka was ahead of his time.

 

[Vacelere]

They are like the snake worshipping Hillbillies in America. The Sayid (aun) didn’t kill enough.

Killing Muslims is a trait of khawarij