Sudanese

[KobeBryant]

I could argue that northern Somalis and some southern Somali are more Arab than the Sudanese because some of these phenotypes in this video are clearly a result of Bantu intermixing.

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

We have zero arab dna

 

[Juke]

There's no bantus in Sudan. Those Madows are nilotic.

Many Arabs migrated there 500 years ago when they conquered the orthodoc coptic christian nubians and Arabized along with Islamized them.

Most Sudanese Arabs are of the J haplogroup (semitic origin). There's also more pure Arabs that are a relatively recent arrivals from across the red sea.

Ethnic Somalis aren't Arab at all. Heterogenous Benadiri groups have Arab in them.

 

[KobeBryant]

We have zero arab dna

Speak for yourself.

 

[KobeBryant]

There's no bantus in Sudan. Those Madows are nilotic.

Many Arabs migrated there 500 years ago when they conquered the orthodoc coptic christian nubians and Arabized along with Islamized them.

Most Sudanese Arabs are of the J haplogroup (semitic origin). There's also more pure Arabs that are a relatively recent arrivals from across the red sea.

Ethnic Somalis aren't Arab at all. Heterogenous Benadiri groups have Arab in them.

I have met many Somalis who resemble southern gulf Arabs. And I have met some that resemble a Nigerian. Explain this. And both are “ethnic somali”

 

[babooshke]

Sudanese people are literally nilotics mixed with arabs.

we are cushites.

 

[Juke]

I have met many Somalis who resemble southern gulf Arabs. And I have met some that resemble a Nigerian. Explain this. And both are “ethnic somali”

I doubt they were ethnic Somalis. Ethnic Somalis are cushite nomads.

Some southern gulf Arabs are mixed with Madow or cushite.

Benadiri people are a heterogenous group of various origin (incl. Southern Arabian) that have been living in southern Somalia for thousands of years.

Madow bantus live in southern Somalia, that could explain the Nigerian.

Neither Benadiri and Madow bantus are ethnic Somalis.

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

Speak for yourself.

No vimto in your veins sxb

 

[Nomoregames2019]

There wasn't a single Sudanese person in that video with exception of that girl at 0:04 and guy at 7:58 who looked Bantu and we don't have Bantus in Sudan, we have Nilotic tribes. You can clearly tell those guys were from Darfur or South Sudan, many of them looked East African like Habesha, some of them even looked Somali

 

[Nomoregames2019]

Sudanese people are literally nilotics mixed with arabs.

we are cushites.

The original Kushites came from Egypt and North Sudan, you are retarded. Look up the history.

 

[Nomoregames2019]

There's no bantus in Sudan. Those Madows are nilotic.

Many Arabs migrated there 500 years ago when they conquered the orthodoc coptic christian nubians and Arabized along with Islamized them.

Most Sudanese Arabs are of the J haplogroup (semitic origin). There's also more pure Arabs that are a relatively recent arrivals from across the red sea.

Ethnic Somalis aren't Arab at all. Heterogenous Benadiri groups have Arab in them.

Sudan was never conquered move along now with that myth. The Nubians accepted Islam due to being in contact with the Arab traders.

Although Christianity had been introduced into Sudan in the third or fourth centuries, around AD 640, Islam came to Sudan. A merchant class of Arabs established themselves as economically dominant in feudal Sudan. The coming of Islam eventually changed the nature of Sudanese society and facilitated the division of the country into north and south. Islam also fostered political unity, economic growth, and educational development among its adherents; however, these benefits were restricted largely to urban and commercial centers.

Contacts between Nubians and Arabs long predated the coming of Islam, but the arabization of the Nile Valley was a gradual process that occurred over a period of nearly 1,000 years. Arab nomads continually wandered into the region in search of fresh pasturage, and Arab seafarers and merchants traded in Red Sea ports for spices and slaves. Intermarriage and assimilation also facilitated arabization.

We report the genotypes of the 15 Identifiler microsatellite markers for 498 individuals from 18 Sudanese populations representing different ethnic and linguistic groups. The combined power of exclusion (PE) was 0.9999981, and the combined match probability was 1 in 7.4 × 1017. The genotype data from the Sudanese populations was combined with previously published genotype data from Egypt, Somalia and the Karamoja population from Uganda. The Somali population was found to be genetically distinct from the other northeast African populations. Individuals from northern Sudan clustered together with those from Egypt, and individuals from southern Sudan clustered with those from the Karamoja population. The similarity of the Nubian and Egyptian populations suggest that migration, potentially bidirectional, occurred along the Nile river Valley, which is consistent with the historical evidence for long-term interactions between Egypt and Nubia.

revious genetic studies in Sudan have mainly focused on mitochondrial (mt)DNA, the Y chromosome [4–8], and a small number of autosomal markers [9–12]. Recently, Tishkoff et al.[13], conducted a large survey of 121 African populations using more than 800 microsatellites that included six populations from Sudan. Three of these populations were Nilotic populations, and one was a Nuba population, and these four populations speak Nilo-Saharan languages. The remaining two populations are Beja, who speak Afro-Asiatic languages. The study by Tishkoff et al.[13] showed that eastern Africa harbors substantial amounts of genetic diversity, only superseded by the amount of genetic diversity in southern Africa, but it is difficult to rank these regions, because of the very different sample density across Africa.

https://nvestigativegenetics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2041-2223-2-12

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

Tf is with this Arab shit I keep seeing on here?

 

[Asaana]

There's no bantus in Sudan. Those Madows are nilotic.

Many Arabs migrated there 500 years ago when they conquered the orthodoc coptic christian nubians and Arabized along with Islamized them.

Most Sudanese Arabs are of the J haplogroup (semitic origin). There's also more pure Arabs that are a relatively recent arrivals from across the red sea.

Ethnic Somalis aren't Arab at all. Heterogenous Benadiri groups have Arab in them.

Nubians were never conquered. Southern Nubians (currently Afro-Arabs) adopted Islam and intermarried with Arabs by choice, and Northern Nubians (currently Nubians) did not which is why they didn't start speaking Arabic until the 1960s when migration to the capital began.

 

[Nomoregames2019]

Nubians were never conquered. Southern Nubians (currently Afro-Arabs) adopted Islam and intermarried with Arabs by choice, and Northern Nubians (currently Nubians) did not which is why they didn't start speaking Arabic until the 1960s when migration to the capital began.

Why do people who know nothing about Sudan keep on spreading this myth about Arabs raping us and making us speak their language, The Mahas and Dangala people still speak their own language (Nubian) and its mainly the ones who live in Khartoum who speak Arabic as an official language, I still remember my mother telling me that none of her relatives back in her parent's village in the shamilayah even spoke Arabic amongst themselves.

 

[Asaana]

I could argue that northern Somalis and some southern Somali are more Arab than the Sudanese because some of these phenotypes in this video are clearly a result of Bantu intermixing.

Lots of Sudanese in America are from Darfur and the Nuba mountains. They aren't an accurate representation of the country's demographic.

In places with a larger Sudanese diaspora like Dubai most people are from Northern, River Nile, and Gezira region and they generally look like this

 

[Nomoregames2019]

Lots of Sudanese in America are from Darfur and the Nuba mountains. They aren't an accurate representation of the country's demographic.

In places with a larger Sudanese diaspora like Dubai most people are from Northern, River Nile, and Gezira region and they generally look like this

Yeah most of the Sudanese people who live in the west now are usually from Darfur or Nuba Mountains, and South Sudan. Very few Sudanese Arabs migrated to the west. Most of them live in Saudi Arabia and UAE etc.

 

[Asaana]

Yeah most of the Sudanese people who live in the west now are usually from Darfur or Nuba Mountains, and South Sudan. Very few Sudanese Arabs migrated to the west. Most of them live in Saudi Arabia and UAE etc.

Exactly. Northern Sudanese diaspora tend to visit Sudan very frequently so they avoid living far from Sudan. That's why most live in the Middle East.

 

[The alchemist]

Sudanese Arabs/Nubians/Bejas have different layers in their genetic makeup, first the Cushitic part (more expressed in Bejas), then additional North African and Nilotic mixed back and forth through intermediate admixed peoples (also similar synergy with the internal heterogeneity), and some subsequent gene flow from peninsula Arabs, which is not the biggest component of their Eurasian side. Somebody mentioned them having less real Arab DNA than Habashi's have South Semitic, which I completely agree with.

This is a nice PCA that show's most Sudanese cluster with Cushites when it comes to West Eurasian levels, irrespective of sources and signatures:

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[Nomoregames2019]

Sudanese Arabs/Nubians/Bejas have different layers in their genetic makeup, first the Cushitic part (more expressed in Bejas), then additional North African and Nilotic mixed back and forth through intermediate admixed peoples (also similar synergy with the internal heterogeneity), and some subsequent gene flow from peninsula Arabs, which is not the biggest component of their Eurasian side. Somebody mentioned them having less real Arab DNA than Habashi's have South Semitic, which I completely agree with.

This is a nice PCA that show's most Sudanese cluster with Cushites when it comes to West Eurasian levels, irrespective of sources and signatures:

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There is much genetic diversity in Sudan to label us into one group. The modern-day Nubians in Sudan definitely still retain a lot of Cushitic DNA. The point about Ethiopian people having more Arab DNA than most modern-day northern Sudanese people isn't a surprise after all as there was a lot more inter-marriage/migration happening between the Ethiopians and Southern Arabians during the kingdom of Axum than there was between the Nubians and Arabs.

 

[KobeBryant]

Lots of Sudanese in America are from Darfur and the Nuba mountains. They aren't an accurate representation of the country's demographic.

In places with a larger Sudanese diaspora like Dubai most people are from Northern, River Nile, and Gezira region and they generally look like this

I’m getting a wife from Sudan.