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In the future we are going to wonder why we talked about Elon Musk this much
SUBHANALLAH! ELON MUSK IS COOL WITH BEING SENT TO HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!
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The Islamic tradition states that humans have free will and free choice. Allah already knows if the person is going to commit the same sin for the rest of their life. If anything it is a mercy of Allah to allow the person to sin for 80 years because it is the persons choice to try to stop and turn back to allah.
bidenkulaha
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As if Elon Musk isn’t part of the occult. You don’t become the richest man on the planet without bending the knee to the satanic cult.
Elon Musk is well aware of the existence of god but he’s about the worldly life like many of us.
They only know the worldly affairs of this life, but are totally oblivious to the Hereafter.
Quran 30:7
Elon Musk is well aware of the existence of god but he’s about the worldly life like many of us.
They only know the worldly affairs of this life, but are totally oblivious to the Hereafter.
Quran 30:7
The idea that an omnipotent God asked everyone in creation if they wanted to take a test with the risk of hell and only humankind and jinn out of the millions of creation decided to take the test because of how big their head is then give them food drink eyes housing and sends them messengers and allow them to live long enough to accept the message yet due to their massive ego they are ungrateful for the billions of blessings of God and deny faith due to arrogance while being offered eternity in bliss for a couple years of struggle and then have the cheek to complain about God when the real enemy is themselves.
Indeed, those who disbelieve will be addressed, "The hatred of Allāh for you was [even] greater than your hatred of yourselves [this Day in Hell] when you were invited to faith, but you disbelieved [i.e., refused]."
40:10
Here you note Allah didn't say hatred for Allah on yawmul qiyama, he said hatred for themselves, because noone will hate Allah in the akhirah because the truth will overcome them and they will know in their heart they only have themselves to blame
Ask Allah that question, anything Allah does is just, if you say otherwise then.....
What are you getting at? Are you doubting your religion in an overall sense or maybe you are questioning whether hell is eternal?
It is very clear that hell is eternal and this is very easy to prove.
without any doubt:
A- Hell is eternal (for the kuffar; some Muslims will go to hell temporarily for their sins but be removed later)
B- God is perfectly Just.
therefore it must be perfectly just that those sent to hell for eternity are in there for eternity. if we don't understand these things, we have to put our own reasoning to the side and trust in God. Allah knows best- always. He is who created us, who are any of us to doubt Him? He is the Cherisher, the Sustainer. We are utterly dependent on His mercy.
Anyways, if anyone thinks God is unjust (audubillah)... it is not really "Reason" that leads them to think this. It is their whims and desires and the faults of their own intellect. I see in the news how people are hardcore defending abortion, defending transgender grooming of little kids in school, people have utterly rejected God- is it unjust that God should reject them as well? Allah Ta'ala sent prophet after prophet, calling people to tawheed, He revealed the Quran.... Allah is extremely kind and merciful to us humans then we turn on our own Creator! I myself deserve hell and it is only by Allah's mercy that any of us are saved.
TekNiKo
Loyal To The One True Caliph (Hafidahullah)
No, I'm not watching Shabir Ally. Haven't you seen this video?
I tried to watch it and it's too painful. this guy is one of the most watered down people I've ever seen. I'm shocked he even openly says some of these things. the man is a heretic if not an outright kaffir.
TekNiKo
Loyal To The One True Caliph (Hafidahullah)
Im not watching Daniel Haqiqatou? The same guy who said Sheikh Omar Suleiman is a pagan? The guy is an extremist.
He accused Omar Suleiman of participating in a pagan ritual. The man is on video participating in a pagan ritual. I think you Sufis are so desperate that you'll let all kinds of crazy stuff slide just to have some ideological support against "wahhabis". I think us Salafis have that kind of intellectual firepower behind us in terms of scholarship that you Sufis are just desperately clinging to sellouts like "Mufti" Menk and Shabir Ally. The bar is a lot higher for Salafis. Salafi scholars aren't allowed to cuck to the West and cave in on issues and are expected to uphold the same positions that were upheld by the classical scholars. You don't see us tolerating this kind of stuff from scholars. Our scholars don't march next to rainbow lgbt stuff and participate in pagan rituals on camera.
TekNiKo
Loyal To The One True Caliph (Hafidahullah)
Oh gimme a break hes standing in solidarity for his community. He lives in America and is not in Middle East. Scholars of the West know the urf of their regions, Sheikh Hamza exposes these sick groups and hes Sufi gimme a break.
he's standing in solidarity with his community? by marching with an lgbt priestess? by participating in a pagan ritual?
I don't think bringing victory to Islam or to Palestine is by marching next to a woman priest with lgbt rainbow stuff and participating in a pagan ritual.
And because you live in a West you can't have a spine and you have march next to lgbt rainbow garbage and participate in a pagan ritual? I live in the West and I'm just an ordinary person and I don't do that. Are you going to do that? I would think a scholar should be at a higher standard than just an ordinary person. And what do I have to learn from a spineless coward? How to be a coward with no backbone? How to be a slave to kaffirs?
Hamza Yusuf? Exposing "sick groups"... from the white house where he meets with the US presidents? I know I wouldn't be getting any invites from the US presidents.
Hamza Yusuf The Sufi Sell Out & The U.S. Constitution
as the video shows, the man is a sellout.
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VIP
Where in the Hadith and Quran shows that we as humans knowingly accepted this life as a test before we were born?
33:72
إِنَّا عَرَضْنَا ٱلْأَمَانَةَ عَلَى ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضِ وَٱلْجِبَالِ فَأَبَيْنَ أَن يَحْمِلْنَهَا وَأَشْفَقْنَ مِنْهَا وَحَمَلَهَا ٱلْإِنسَـٰنُ ۖ إِنَّهُۥ كَانَ ظَلُومًا جَهُولًا ٧٢
Indeed, We offered the trust to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, but they ˹all˺ declined to bear it, being fearful of it. But humanity assumed it, ˹for˺ they are truly wrongful ˹to themselves˺ and ignorant ˹of the consequences˺,
— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
I don't know which tafseer you read, but I will mention the tafseer of ibn katheer here
How Man bore the Amanah
Al-`Awfi reported that Ibn `Abbas said, "Al-Amanah means obedience. This was offered to them before it was offered to Adam, and they could not bear it. Then Allah said to Adam: `I have offered the Amanah to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, and they could not bear it. Will you take it on' He said, `O Lord, what does it involve' He said, `If you do good, you will be rewarded, and if you do evil, you will be punished.' So Adam took the Amanah and bore it, and this is what is referred to in the Ayah:وَحَمَلَهَا الإِنْسَـنُ إِنَّهُ كَانَ ظَلُوماً جَهُولاً
(But man bore it. Verily, he was unjust and ignorant.)" `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said, "Al-Amanah means Al-Fara'id (the obligatory duties). Allah offered them to the heavens and the earth and the mountains, (on the grounds that) if they fulfilled them, He would reward them; and if they failed, He would punish them. But they did not want to do that, and they were afraid of it, not because their intention was sinful, but because of their respect for the religion of Allah, in case they could not fulfill the obligations involved. Then Allah offered it to Adam, and he accepted it with all that it entailed. This is what is referred to in the Ayah:
وَحَمَلَهَا الإِنْسَـنُ إِنَّهُ كَانَ ظَلُوماً جَهُولاً
(But man bore it. Verily, he was unjust and ignorant. ) meaning, he underestimated the command of Allah." This was also the view of Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr, Ad-Dahhak, Al-Hasan Al-Basri and others that Al-Amanah means Al-Fara'id. Others said that it meant obedience. Al-A`mash narrated from Abu Ad-Duha from Masruq that Ubayy bin Ka`b said: "Part of Al-Amanah means that woman was entrusted with her own chastity." Qatadah said: "Al-Amanah means religion, obligatory duties and prescribed punishments." Malik narrated that Zayd bin Aslam said: "Al-Amanah means three things: prayer, fasting and performing Ghusl to cleanse oneself from sexual impurity." There is no contradiction between all of these views; they are all in agreement and all refer to responsibility and the acceptance of commands and prohibitions with their attendant conditions, which is that the one who fulfills this responsibility, will be rewarded; while the one who neglects it, will be punished. Man accepted this despite the fact that he is weak, ignorant and unjust -- except for those whom Allah helps, and Allah is the One Whose help we seek. One of the reports which deal with Al-Amanah is the Hadith recorded by Imam Ahmad from Hudhayfah, may Allah be pleased with him, who said: "The Messenger of Allah told us two Hadiths, one of which I have seen and the other I am still waiting to see. He told us that Al-Amanah is deeply rooted in the heart of man, then the Qur'an was revealed and they know it from the Qur'an and from the Sunnah. Then he told us that Al-Amanah will be taken away. He said,
«يَنَامُ الرَّجُلُ النَّوْمَةَ فَتُقْبَضُ الْأَمَانَةُ مِنْ قَلْبِهِ، فَيَظَلُّ أَثَرُهَا مِثْلَ أَثَرِ الْمَجْلِ كَجَمْرٍ دَحْرَجْتَهُ عَلَى رِجْلِكِ، تَرَاهُ مُنْتَبِرًا وَلَيْسَ فِيهِ شَيْء»
. (A man may sleep and Al-Amanah will be taken from his heart, leaving nothing but a trace like a blister left by a coal if you were to roll it over your leg -- you will see it protruding but there is nothing inside.) Then he took a pebble and rolled it over his leg, then he said:
«فَيُصْبِحُ النَّاسُ يَتَبَايَعُونَ لَا يَكَادُ أَحَدٌ يُؤَدِّي الْأَمَانَةَ حَتَّى يُقَالَ: إِنَّ فِي بَنِي فُلَانٍ رَجُلًا أَمِينًا، حَتَّى يُقَالَ لِلرَّجُلِ مَا أَجْلَدَهُ وَأَظْرَفَهُ وَأَعْقَلَهُ وَمَا فِي قَلْبِهِ حَبَّةُ خَرْدَلٍ مِنْ إِيمَان»
(Then the people will start buying and selling, and hardly anyone will be paying attention to Al-Amanah, until it will be said that among the tribe of so-and-so there is a trustworthy man, and it will said of a man, `how strong he is, how nice and how wise,' and there is not even a mustard seed of faith in his heart.) No doubt, there came upon me a time when I did not mind dealing (bargaining) with anyone of you, for if he was a Muslim, his Islam would compel him to pay me what is due to me, and if he was a Christian, or Jew, the Muslim official would compel him to pay me what is due to me, but today, I do not deal except with such and such person among you." It was also recorded in the Two Sahihs from the Hadith of Al-A`mash. Imam Ahmad recorded that `Abdullah bin `Amr, may Allah be pleased with him, said that the Messenger of Allah said:
«أَرْبَعٌ إِذَا كُنَّ فِيكَ فَلَا عَلَيْكَ مَا فَاتَكَ مِنَ الدُّنْيَا: حِفْظُ أَمَانَةٍ، وَصِدْقُ حَدِيثٍ، وَحُسْنُ خَلِيقَةٍ، وَعِفَّةُ طُعْمَة»
(There are four things, if you attain them, then whatever you miss in this world will not matter: preserving trust, speaking the truth, being of good character and moderation in eating.)
The Result of taking on the Amanah
لِّيُعَذِّبَ اللَّهُ الْمُنَـفِقِينَ وَالْمُنَـفِقَـتِ وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ وَالْمُشْرِكَـتِ(So that Allah will punish the hypocrites, men and women, and the men and women who are idolators.) means, because the sons of Adam have undertaken to fulfill the Amanah, which means duties, Allah will punish the men and women among them who are hypocrites, who are those who make an outward display of faith because they fear the believers, but in their hearts they conceal disbelief and in fact are followers of the disbelievers.
وَالْمُشْرِكِينَ وَالْمُشْرِكَـتِ
(and the men and women who are idolators.) these are the ones who both outwardly and inwardly associate others in worship with Allah and go against His Messengers.
وَيَتُوبَ اللَّهُ عَلَى الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُؤْمِنَـتِ
(And Allah will pardon the believers, men and women.) means, He will show mercy to the believers among mankind, who believe in Allah and in His angels, Books and Messengers, and who obey Him.
وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُوراً رَّحِيماً
(And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.) This is end of the Tafsir of Surat Al-Ahzab. Allah's is the praise and thanks
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