The problem that faced the anti harti camp in MJ mainly issa n osman mahmud was their leaders thought Somalia was the 1960 till 1991 Era where clans are under a rule of law, they didn't update their game to the emerging hellscape post 91 where rule of law is absent or on paper(post 2004)and clannism is the real system in Somalia, they were out of touch with the current environment and lost to abdillahi yusuf vision to unify harti politically, territorially, and security as we are all on the same boat if irir win the day either thru military coalition or politically.