South African Seccesionists

[techsamatar]

Jewish donors are behind that black communist president who has hatred for whites and wants to genocide them, jews have been rulers of south Africa and its exploiters since its establishment they used it for diamond milking cow.

 

[Khaem]

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OP, it's misleading to only tie Western Cape secessionism to white South Africans. While a significant number of them do support the movement, it's Colored South African who constitute the majority of the proponents.

You have to take into account that after the collapse of the Apartheid, Western Cape was the only South African region where the majority didn't vote for ANC/Mandela in the 1994 election, thanks to Colored South Africans. They voted instead for the NNP, which was the successor state to the National Party (who introduced apartheid) alongside White South Africans.

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This is the demographic of Western Cape after all. Both Whites and Colored largely still vote for the same political party today (democratic alliance). ANC has never gained foothold in this region as a result.

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Yeah it's all the mixed race folk

 

[Soul Kaizer]

 

[Keo]

South Africa does not belong to bantu’s or white people.

 

[Kizaru]

You never see Africans going to Europe and claiming a entire patch of land the size of Europe. These people came here and exploited clan differences and conflicts. The winning clan gave them a small patch of land to which they claimed the entire south of Africa. F those parasites. They crying about migrants in Europe when they are the aliens in Africa. They can always f off back to their dilapidated homes in Belgium and the Netherlands.

 

[World]

Sometimes, I wish cadaan South Africans make their own country, then this whole “economic management” myth can be killed.

The cadaans had a shit economy during apartheid. They relied on mineral exports and used that to only develop 5% of the country and by the 1990s even those areas were behind Europe by a decade.

The fact is South Africa is way richer today than it was in 1994 and more developed. Cadaans are just mad that money is spread equally and there isn’t enough money for everyone.

Is an African country being behind Europe by only 10 years not an achievement?

 

[Almis]

As an Isaaq I fully support them lol

 

[Periplus]

Is an African country being behind Europe by only 10 years not an achievement?

Only 5% of the country was a decade behind Europe.

The rest of the country was in the 19th Century by European standards. I would rather live in Indian slum today than an Sth African township in the 1980s.

At least in the Indian slum, I have a chance of making it out.

 

[NOT-ACTIVE]

That Boer guy is wild

 

[World]

Only 5% of the country was a decade behind Europe.

The rest of the country was in the 19th Century by European standards. I would rather live in Indian slum today than an Sth African township in the 1980s.

At least in the Indian slum, I have a chance of making it out.

I think if White South Africans had their own country, it would be the most developed African country. I'm not denying that as a Black immigrant, you wouldn't have benefited from living in South Africa. They didn't want black South Africans to live as prosperous as they did.

 

[Periplus]

I think if White South Africans had their own country, it would be the most developed African country. I'm not denying that as a Black immigrant, you wouldn't have benefited from living in South Africa. They didn't want black South Africans to live as prosperous as they did.

They had their own country for 342 years, with tens of millions of (basically) slave labour.

Whites arrived in South Africa in 1652 and the Black population only really became a “nuisance” to their development until 1950s.

They also had an ungodly amount of mineral resources, a strategic location and international support up until the 1980s.

The brutal history of white South Africa was that it was incompetent.

 

[World]

They had their own country for 342 years, with tens of millions of (basically) slave labour.

Whites arrived in South Africa in 1652 and the Black population only really became a “nuisance” to their development until 1950s.

They also had an ungodly amount of mineral resources, a strategic location and international support up until the 1980s.

The brutal history of white South Africa was that it was incompetent.

South Africa wasn't a sovereign country until 1960 tho, before that they were ruled by the British etc. Sure they had considerable influence, but they were part of the British Empire.

If South Africa is a failure pre apartheid, then what would you classify as success? Does them doing better than pretty much every African country not matter?

 

[Periplus]

South Africa wasn't a sovereign country until 1960 tho, before that they were ruled by the British etc. Sure they had considerable influence, but they were part of the British Empire.

If South Africa is a failure pre apartheid, then what would you classify as success? Does them doing better than pretty much every African country not matter?

Firstly, they didn’t become a sovereign country in 1960 bro. They got rid of Queen Elizabeth II as head of state then. If that’s the case for being sovereign, then Australia isn’t a sovereign nation.

As for your second point, it is depends on what you judge as being better than other African countries.

If you judge it by how the top 5% live, then you are right. However, if you judge it by how the average person lived then I apologise but Sth Africa was a failure by African living standards even. That’s not even accounting for the racism.

Plus, what I also don’t understand is how White South Africa is always judged against other African countries. No other African country mass employed slave labour in mines. No other African country used 80% of the population as free labour to build a country.

Also, White South African always talk about how they’re above the rest of Africa.

So I believe they should be compared to other settler colonial white countries like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Israel or the US.

If you want to call yourself civilised then compare yourself to them and not the “uncivilised” Africans.

 

[World]

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Firstly, they didn’t become a sovereign country in 1960 bro. They got rid of Queen Elizabeth II as head of state then. If that’s the case for being sovereign, then Australia isn’t a sovereign nation.

As for your second point, it is depends on what you judge as being better than other African countries.

If you judge it by how the top 5% live, then you are right. However, if you judge it by how the average person lived then I apologise but Sth Africa was a failure by African living standards even. That’s not even accounting for the racism.

I mean the country itself. They were able to develop nukes, were the most advanced African country in the defense industry, had a space program, etc.

Plus, what I also don’t understand is how White South Africa is always judged against other African countries. No other African country mass employed slave labour in mines. No other African country used 80% of the population as free labour to build a country.

Over 30 % of Congolese children are in slave labour working in mines today though.

Also, White South African always talk about how they’re above the rest of Africa.

So I believe they should be compared to other settler colonial white countries like Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Israel or the US.

If you want to call yourself civilised then compare yourself to them and not the “uncivilised” Africans.

In all those white colonial countries, the settler is the majority of the population though. Would the US be as successful if blacks were 80 % of the population? It would probably look closer to South Africa in my opinion.

 

[Periplus]

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I mean the country itself. They were able to develop nukes, were the most advanced African country in the defense industry, had a space program, etc.

Over 30 % of Congolese children are in slave labour working in mines today though.

In all those white colonial countries, the settler is the majority of the population though. Would the US be as successful if blacks were 80 % of the population? It would probably look closer to South Africa in my opinion.

1. Look I get your point, they did make strides that no other African country touched. However, you can also look at it this way: North Korea developed nukes and unlike Sth Africa they didn’t get help from Israel. Does that mean Nth Korea is some developed nation?

2. They’re enslaved by multinational corporations in which corrupt leaders take kickbacks.

In South Africa, the South African companies enslaved the workers, the government didn’t take kickbacks and the ruling white class got to actually see the profits. Yet 300 years of this and all they could produce was a country slightly better than Egypt.

3. White South Africans being a minority of their population is another sign of their incompetence. They inhabited Africa before the cadaans reached America or Australia but couldn’t even genocide correctly. The Africans actually put up a fight and the cadaans ended up fighting amongst themselves on and off until 1900.

This is what I mean by cadaan South Africans being the most incompetent out of settler colonial whites. They’re not marginally better than the Africans they love to criticise.