Soqotri being spoken part of south Arabian languages

[Nabiil]

Very interesting. It sounds like Amharic and Tigrinya especially Tigrinya

 

[Apollo]

A lot of people don't know that most of Yemen did not speak Arabic originally. Technically, they can be considered Arabized people like how Egyptians and the Lebanese became Arabized, but since they live on the Arabian peninsula nobody ever considers Yemenis Arabized.

 

[Nabiil]

A lot of people don't know that most of Yemen did not speak Arabic originally. Technically, they can be considered Arabized people like how Egyptians and the Lebanese became Arabized, but since they live on the Arabian peninsula nobody ever considers Yemenis Arabized.

There’s also that popular misconception/meme that Yemenis are the original Arabs lol

 

[stophatingtho]

people forget yemenis got aksumized

 

[Som]

Very interesting. It sounds like Amharic and Tigrinya especially Tigrinya

Sounds more like tigrinya than amharic.
Amharic has a strong cushitic substratum from agaw and a lot of oromo influence. Amharic lacls the sound Ca(ع) and the sound Xa (ح) wich is found in tigrinya. Tigrinya is way more semitic than amharic in both vocabulary and pronunciation.
It's actually very interesting that most cushitic languages don't have these sounds except Afar and Somali.

 

[Som]

A lot of people don't know that most of Yemen did not speak Arabic originally. Technically, they can be considered Arabized people like how Egyptians and the Lebanese became Arabized, but since they live on the Arabian peninsula nobody ever considers Yemenis Arabized.

When did they start? I think that at the time of prophet muhammad yemenis already spoke some form of arabic. Parts of modern day southern saudi arabia were considered Yemen, and those guys spoke arabic

 

[Aurelian]

A lot of people don't know that most of Yemen did not speak Arabic originally. Technically, they can be considered Arabized people like how Egyptians and the Lebanese became Arabized, but since they live on the Arabian peninsula nobody ever considers Yemenis Arabized.

The thing is that, Arabs consider them as the original Arabs, which means their language is a variety of Arabic, and other Arabs speak another variety of Arabic ( MSA, QORAN, dialects).

The traditional Arabs categories arabs into 3, Original arabs, extinct arabs and arabized Arab. The arabs of lets say the prophet are arabized arabs for example, the same thing goes to the other Quraishi tribe, which the quranic Arab is based on their dialect.

 

[QueenofKings]

As someone who doesn’t speak either habashi languages or Arabic but obviously heard them both - sounds very Arabic to me.

 

[convincation]

Sounds more like tigrinya than amharic.
Amharic has a strong cushitic substratum from agaw and a lot of oromo influence. Amharic lacls the sound Ca(ع) and the sound Xa (ح) wich is found in tigrinya. Tigrinya is way more semitic than amharic in both vocabulary and pronunciation.
It's actually very interesting that most cushitic languages don't have these sounds except Afar and Somali.

Somali and afar were both arabised, native cushiyic languages don’t have those sounds it’s the main reason why oromos and maay speakers have an accent when they speak standard somali those sounds aren’t native to cushitic languages

 

[Aurelian]

Somali and afar were both arabised, native cushiyic languages don’t have those sounds it’s the main reason why oromos and maay speakers have an accent when they speak standard somali those sounds aren’t native to cushitic languages

Maybe they lost it, or we got these sounds naturally, who knows

 

[Som]

Somali and afar were both arabised, native cushiyic languages don’t have those sounds it’s the main reason why oromos and maay speakers have an accent when they speak standard somali those sounds aren’t native to cushitic languages

I'm not sure though. Are we sure it's just because of arab influence?

 

[Shimbiris]

"South Semitic" (not that you mentioned it) is not a legitimate grouping from what I've seen in more recent linguistic circles. Instead, basically all the "South-Semitic" languages are essentially just West-Semitic (WS), some more divergent than others. You have Proto-Ethiosemitic (PES) from which Ge'ez and the ancestor of languages like Amharic descend from then you have Old-South-Arabian (OSA) which languages like Sabaean and Qatabanic belong to, then you have Himyaritic and you finally have Modern-South-Arabian (MSA) from which languages like Mehri and Soqotri spring from and it is important to keep in mind that MSA languages do not descend from the OSA languages at all and are separate WS languages. Yemen was a real hotbed of Semitic linguistic diversity once upon a time with even some old forms of Arabic being present even before Islam.

Another fun fact about the MSA languages in particular is that they have a very real Cushitic substratum discovered a long time ago by Militarev and since proven to be indeed real. This and some archaeological evidence I now have lost the links for showing that there were Horn to South Arabia archaeological exchanges before 1000 BCE like Horner stelae culture spreading to the region implies that Cushites likely expanded into Yemen alongside the Horn, Southeast Africa and Southern Africa but were eventually usurped by waves of expanding West-Semites who seem to have brought with them things like metallurgy, camel domestication, writing and so forth.

There's also some literature out there showing Cushites expanded to some extent into areas like Chad and it seems they were once a likely prominent force in Sudan like during the time of the Kermans. Cushites really expanded far and wide at first, to be honest. But they lost Yemen to Semites, most of Sudan and Nubia to Nilo-Saharans, Southeast and Southern Africa to Bantus and a good chunk of the northern Horn (at least more linguistically than genetically) to Semites. East-Cushites like Somalis, Oromos and Afars kept it the realest. Cushites, as a linguistic group, would damn near not exist today without us and mostly just remain as a strong genetic legacy in groups like the Xabash, Tutsis and Nubians.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

Somali and afar were both arabised, native cushiyic languages don’t have those sounds it’s the main reason why oromos and maay speakers have an accent when they speak standard somali those sounds aren’t native to cushitic languages

Lol, no we inherited these sounds from Porto Afrasian languages, via pro Cushitic. Agaw and Southern Cushitic languages retained these glutural consonants.

 

[Gadhwayne]

When did they start? I think that at the time of prophet muhammad yemenis already spoke some form of arabic. Parts of modern day southern saudi arabia were considered Yemen, and those guys spoke arabic

Maybe a few tribes spoke it but most Yemeniyiin are from SouthSemitic tribes

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The thing is that, Arabs consider them as the original Arabs, which means their language is a variety of Arabic, and other Arabs speak another variety of Arabic ( MSA, QORAN, dialects).

The traditional Arabs categories arabs into 3, Original arabs, extinct arabs and arabized Arab. The arabs of lets say the prophet are arabized arabs for example, the same thing goes to the other Quraishi tribe, which the quranic Arab is based on their dialect.

The myth of mustacarab andCarabulcarab myths, if true, would mean Yemeniyiin carab al carab ma'aha

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Somali and afar were both arabised, native cushiyic languages don’t have those sounds it’s the main reason why oromos and maay speakers have an accent when they speak standard somali those sounds aren’t native to cushitic languages

check out a Somalioid language called Rendille it has the laryngeals but it is spoken by a traditionally nonMuslim tribe

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I'm not sure though. Are we sure it's just because of arab influence?

maybe we should ask if lughat alCarabiya and other westernSemitic langiages stole laryngeals from protoAfMaxaaTidhi

"South Semitic" (not that you mentioned it) is not a legitimate grouping from what I've seen in more recent linguistic circles. Instead, basically all the "South-Semitic" languages are essentially just West-Semitic (WS), some more divergent than others. You have Proto-Ethiosemitic (PES) from which Ge'ez and the ancestor of languages like Amharic descend from then you have Old-South-Arabian (OSA) which languages like Sabaean and Qatabanic belong to, then you have Himyaritic and you finally have Modern-South-Arabian (MSA) from which languages like Mehri and Soqotri spring from and it is important to keep in mind that MSA languages do not descend from the OSA languages at all and are separate WS languages. Yemen was a real hotbed of Semitic linguistic diversity once upon a time with even some old forms of Arabic being present even before Islam.

Another fun fact about the MSA languages in particular is that they have a very real Cushitic substratum discovered a long time ago by Militarev and since proven to be indeed real. This and some archaeological evidence I now have lost the links for showing that there were Horn to South Arabia archaeological exchanges before 1000 BCE like Horner stelae culture spreading to the region implies that Cushites likely expanded into Yemen alongside the Horn, Southeast Africa and Southern Africa but were eventually usurped by waves of expanding West-Semites who seem to have brought with them things like metallurgy, camel domestication, writing and so forth.

There's also some literature out there showing Cushites expanded to some extent into areas like Chad and it seems they were once a likely prominent force in Sudan like during the time of the Kermans. Cushites really expanded far and wide at first, to be honest. But they lost Yemen to Semites, most of Sudan and Nubia to Nilo-Saharans, Southeast and Southern Africa to Bantus and a good chunk of the northern Horn (at least more linguistically than genetically) to Semites. East-Cushites like Somalis, Oromos and Afars kept it the realest. Cushites, as a linguistic group, would damn near not exist today without us and mostly just remain as a strong genetic legacy in groups like the Xabash, Tutsis and Nubians.

All non EastSemitic/Akkadian are westSemitic i.e. SouthSemitic is part of Western branch

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Lol, no we inherited these sounds from Porto Afrasian languages, via pro Cushitic. Agaw and Southern Cushitic languages retained these glutural consonants.

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With enough knowledge we might find atleast 1 case of a laryngeal word that Arabic borrowed from proto MaxaaTidhi

 

[Timo Jareer and proud]

"South Semitic" (not that you mentioned it) is not a legitimate grouping from what I've seen in more recent linguistic circles. Instead, basically all the "South-Semitic" languages are essentially just West-Semitic (WS), some more divergent than others. You have Proto-Ethiosemitic (PES) from which Ge'ez and the ancestor of languages like Amharic descend from then you have Old-South-Arabian (OSA) which languages like Sabaean and Qatabanic belong to, then you have Himyaritic and you finally have Modern-South-Arabian (MSA) from which languages like Mehri and Soqotri spring from and it is important to keep in mind that MSA languages do not descend from the OSA languages at all and are separate WS languages. Yemen was a real hotbed of Semitic linguistic diversity once upon a time with even some old forms of Arabic being present even before Islam.

Another fun fact about the MSA languages in particular is that they have a very real Cushitic substratum discovered a long time ago by Militarev and since proven to be indeed real. This and some archaeological evidence I now have lost the links for showing that there were Horn to South Arabia archaeological exchanges before 1000 BCE like Horner stelae culture spreading to the region implies that Cushites likely expanded into Yemen alongside the Horn, Southeast Africa and Southern Africa but were eventually usurped by waves of expanding West-Semites who seem to have brought with them things like metallurgy, camel domestication, writing and so forth.

There's also some literature out there showing Cushites expanded to some extent into areas like Chad and it seems they were once a likely prominent force in Sudan like during the time of the Kermans. Cushites really expanded far and wide at first, to be honest. But they lost Yemen to Semites, most of Sudan and Nubia to Nilo-Saharans, Southeast and Southern Africa to Bantus and a good chunk of the northern Horn (at least more linguistically than genetically) to Semites. East-Cushites like Somalis, Oromos and Afars kept it the realest. Cushites, as a linguistic group, would damn near not exist today without us and mostly just remain as a strong genetic legacy in groups like the Xabash, Tutsis and Nubians.

There's a subclan of Garre that expanded into the Sahara and now live in Chad/Niger. Few years back the president of Chad visited Garre Suldaans in Southern Ethiopia, Cushites really had been expanding everywhere in the past.