Some recorded SNM Terrorists activities from the Global Terror Database (Non Bias UN-Int Group)

[Garaad.XIV]

Puntland - yes, as for Waqooi, especially Hargesia and Berbera, that's a lie. The Kacaan developed your dusty tuulos. Those cities were better than some Southern cities and had development. Even Burco was better off since there were factories and a booming livestock market there.

The British left you guys with nothing while the Somali gov built you ports, schools, hospitals etc. You were better off than most Somali regions aside from the capital. Stop lying

Ask you parents, Hargesia and Berbera also had electricity and running water. The most under the Kacaan the most undeveloped regions in Somalia were Mudug, Galguduud, Gedo and some parts of Bari. Every other region had a factory and some sort of industry. Even small cities like Las Khorey had a huge fish factory and would export fish.

During the Kacaan era, Somalia accumulated significant debt while struggling economically and educationally, relying heavily on aid from Europe, USA and Soviet block.

The local government's primary source of funding was from the areas of Irir Samaale in Mogadishu, Shabelle Hoose and the Isaaq areas of Berbera, Hargeisa, and Burco. However, instead of using the earned revenue for the benefit of the locals, the government allocated the funds towards foreign Jabertis who were squatting on native lands, particularly in Xamar.

This Twitter thread below explains it well

 

[anon2]

During the Kacaan era, Somalia accumulated significant debt while struggling economically and educationally, relying heavily on aid from Europe, USA and Soviet block.

The local government's primary source of funding was from the areas of Irir Samaale in Mogadishu, Shabelle Hoose and the Isaaq areas of Berbera, Hargeisa, and Burco. However, instead of using the earned revenue for the benefit of the locals, the government allocated the funds towards foreign Jabertis who were squatting on native lands, particularly in Xamar.

This Twitter thread below explains it well

These claims from that idiot who runs that twitter have been debunked. I already explained it all in the thread below.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/moryan-indhacade-interview.142580/page-2#post-3520773

As for the account. he blocks anyone who proves him wrong, I am sure he is on this site foaming at the mouth due to his daroodphobia. As for native population of Xamar, this is no native population of Xamar, there were more people living in Merca than in Xamar before 1950. Most of the building and infrastructure of Xamar and Hargesia was done after 1969

 

[Garaad.XIV]

Most of the infrastructure in Xamar was build by the Italians. No need to lie. And all the infrastructures in Somalia build during Kacaan was 100% paid by foreign countries. Why do you think the country still has a huge debt?

Native population of Benadir are Hawiye, cadcad, Bantu, Dir.

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[anon2]

Most of the infrastructure in Xamar was build by the Italians. No need to lie. And all the infrastructures in Somalia build during Kacaan was 100% paid by foreign countries. Why do you think the country still has a huge debt?

Native population of Benadir are Hawiye, cadcad, Bantu, Dir.

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no it wasn't. Majority of Xamar was built after the Italians left, no one is lying. Why are you making up fake lies? The only thing foreigners built were a few factories. The roads and the buildings were built by Somalis and Chinese/Korean contractors heading projects.

As for the native population, Benadriis were a minority, my subclan along with MJs and a few other from DBlock were living in Xamar since 1700 and did trade along the coast. No one is native to Xamar, it's a Somali city for all Somalis

 

[Hilmaam]

Movement being funded by arch nemesis tells you all about its purpose. most the rebels were based outside somalia with bases in Ethiopia.

This is good to hear and see all this unukah leh irir samalee talk from Isaaq. lol I wonder what cambashe even fighting for

 

[Prince of HS]

no it wasn't. Majority of Xamar was built after the Italians left, no one is lying. Why are you making up fake lies? The only thing foreigners built were a few factories. The roads and the buildings were built by Somalis and Chinese/Korean contractors heading projects.

As for the native population, Benadriis were a minority, my subclan along with MJs and a few other from DBlock were living in Xamar since 1700 and did trade along the coast. No one is native to Xamar, it's a Somali city for all Somalis

what a joke of a comment this is

 

[anon2]

what a joke of a comment this is

how is it a joke comment?

 

[Prince of HS]

how is it a joke comment?

Mogadishu today is 18 districts. only one of these (Xamarweyne) was never ruled by ethnic somalis rather cadcad. Mogadishu used to be two districts xamarweyne and shanaagni. Shangaani was the seat of the yaquub imaam (Harti abgaal sub who hold imaam of hiraab till this day) who ruled from there from 1600 to late 1800. The other 16 districts were known as 'xamar daye' settled by reer mataan sub of abgaal, Wacdan cisman of the mudulood who now settle mainly in lafoole/afgooye/jazeera and certain native subs Mursade

So no not all somalis are native to Mogadishu. It is the capital for all somalis but not everyone is native

 

[anon2]

Mogadishu today is 18 districts. only one of these (Xamarweyne) was never ruled by ethnic somalis rather cadcad. Mogadishu used to be two districts xamarweyne and shanaagni. Shangaani was the seat of the yaquub imaam (Harti abgaal sub who hold imaam of hiraab till this day) who ruled from there from 1600 to late 1800. The other 16 districts were known as 'xamar daye' settled by reer mataan sub of abgaal, Wacdan cisman of the mudulood who now settle mainly in lafoole/afgooye/jazeera and certain native subs Mursade

So no not all somalis are native to Mogadishu. It is the capital for all somalis but not everyone is native

Okay that is a fair assessment, I retract my statement. As for Xamarweyne, I thought they came under cliente status under Ajuraan and then Abgaal, wouldn't that still mean that district was being ruled by Ethnic Somalis?

Also in your opinion, would someone who lived a city for 200+ years being considered native?

 

[El Nino]

Mogadishu today is 18 districts. only one of these (Xamarweyne) was never ruled by ethnic somalis rather cadcad.

All of Xamar sxb, slight mistake here

 

[roddybentancur]

These are some of the few reported incidents that were committed by the "SNM", there are many more which are left out but you can see this was a pure foreign funded terrorist organization that was only harming citizen

Hopefully more UN citied atrocities and crimes committed by these scum is also added to this database. It's missing more hijackings, minings and more kidnaps they committed

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There was only 1 attack before 1988 as is shown thru the report u sent. 1988 onwards was direct fighting between SNM and the kacaan. Also, the Somali Airlines was being used to carry wounded soldiers back to Xamar. It is funny as well how you neglect the injustices going on in northern Somalia, which led to ppl conscripting for the rebel group in the first place. Eventually, victory came for them and the injustices that happened in the north landed directly on your doorstep soon after. What goes around comes around eh? You and ur uncle Maxamed Abdi Yusuf can coon for the kacaan all u like, Siad didn't leave Villa Somalia and thus civil war happened. A power struggle ensued. All the political opponents under Barre that were released suddenly were no match to emboldened power hungry generals who were leading several factions in 1991. Your uncle and morgan ended up tryna steal food from digil iyo mirifle.

 

[anon2]

There was only 1 attack before 1988. 1988 onwards was direct fighting between SNM and the kacaan. The somali airlines Also, it is funny how you neglect the injustices going on northern Somalia, which led to ppl conscripting for the rebel group. Eventually, victory came for them and the injustices that happened in the north landed directly on your doorstep soon after. What goes around comes around eh?

there wasn't 1 attack before 1988, there were multiple attacks, for years, completely unprovoked and funded by Ethiopia. The database only highlights a few, they were foreign funded and caused death and destruction. They weren't even victorious, the USC was victorious, not them, they were nearly wiped out. SNA soldiers were still in the North until 1990

Anyways name some of the injustices the Kacaan committed against waqooi before the bombings? I can name all the horrible things the Kacaan did to my kin in Mudug, Bari and Nugaal. it's why we rebelled before SNM even existed. Hargesia, Burco and Berbera were all cities that generated income for the goverment and treated well. They had electricity, water, ports, modern hospitals etc

Remove emotions when looking at history and be objective.

Many Issaqs will admit what I am saying behind closed doors.

 

[roddybentancur]

there wasn't 1 attack before 1988, there were multiple attacks, for years, completely unprovoked and funded by Ethiopia. The database only highlights a few, they were foreign funded and caused death and destruction. They weren't even victorious, the USC was victorious, not them, they were nearly wiped out. SNA soldiers were still in the North until 1990

Anyways name some of the injustices the Kacaan committed against waqooi before the bombings? I can name all the horrible things the Kacaan did to my kin in Mudug, Bari and Nugaal. it's why we rebelled before SNM even existed. Hargesia, Burco and Berbera were all cities that generated income for the goverment and treated well. They had electricity, water, ports, modern hospitals etc

Remove emotions when looking at history and be objective.

Many Issaqs will admit what I am saying behind closed doors.

It said 1 on the report u sent, which was on 1987.

Lol, name some injustices kulaha...
Let us start by supplanting of 00,000s of ogaden refugees in isaaq territory whilst barely giving any aid designated for the region to help support the sheer increase in population at the time. This was after the diastrous war started by siad barre btw. This led to siad creating
Siad Barre helped by supplying weapons to ogaden militias in 1979 right after the ogaden war. They ended up killing isaaq nomads and their livestock. This kept happening, which led to Afraad (Isaaq soldiers) who was helping WSLF to fight against the ogaden militias instead. This kept going on frequently and shit started to get heavy when Gaani, who was 26th division military head of north at the time, started to execute multiple Isaaq war heroes, as a way to show who was boss. I can go on and on but I cba. I'll these 3 do the rest.

39 Guurada Dilkii Korneyl Cabdillaahi Xaaji Saciid 27 January 1982: Dhinbiishii Hurisay Halgankii Hubeysnaa Ee SNM - Berberatoday.com

Maalin Arbaca ahayd 27kii Bishii Jenweri 1982kii waxaa si waxashnimo ahayd uu General Maxamed xaashi Gaanni oo dad qalkii Maxamed siyaad Barre ay isku reer Ahaayeen uu ugu Dilay Meesha la yidhaahdo Dharkayn-geenyo oo ka Tirsan Gobolka Sool Koroneyl Cabdillaahi Xaaji Saciid Cabdi oo ka mid ahaa...

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@TimaJilic @SirLancelLord @Bernie Madoff

 

[anon2]

It said 1 on the report u sent, which was on 1987.
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Lol, name some injustices kulaha...
Let us start by supplanting of 00,000s of ogaden refugees in isaaq territory whilst barely giving any aid designated for the region to help support the sheer increase in population at the time. This was after the diastrous war started by siad barre btw. This led to siad creating
Siad Barre helped by supplying weapons to ogaden militias in 1979 right after the ogaden war. They ended up killing isaaq nomads and their livestock. This kept happening, which led to Afraad (Isaaq soldiers) who was helping WSLF to fight against the ogaden militias instead. This kept going on frequently and shit started to get heavy when Gaani, who was 26th division military head of north at the time, started to execute multiple Isaaq war heroes, as a way to show who was boss. I can go on and on but I cba. I'll these 3 do the rest.

39 Guurada Dilkii Korneyl Cabdillaahi Xaaji Saciid 27 January 1982: Dhinbiishii Hurisay Halgankii Hubeysnaa Ee SNM - Berberatoday.com

Maalin Arbaca ahayd 27kii Bishii Jenweri 1982kii waxaa si waxashnimo ahayd uu General Maxamed xaashi Gaanni oo dad qalkii Maxamed siyaad Barre ay isku reer Ahaayeen uu ugu Dilay Meesha la yidhaahdo Dharkayn-geenyo oo ka Tirsan Gobolka Sool Koroneyl Cabdillaahi Xaaji Saciid Cabdi oo ka mid ahaa...

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@TimaJilic @SirLancelLord @Bernie Madoff

You can't name any direct injustices that happened within the border of Somalia prior to 1988 to Issaqs. The citizens of Hargesia, Burco and Berbera lived very well.

You seem to consider sending OG refugees into isaaq ""territory"" is an injustice? Gtfo, Issaqs started killing those OG refugees due to fear of being outnumbered, OGs were sent everywhere in Somalia because of Ethiopia was displacing them, and it wasn't even OGs, many other clans were also pushed into or close to the Somali border

As for the Afraad terrorists were targeting OG civilians in retaliation to clan grievances. Whatever you say, Issaq elite attacked first and then went on to work with the greatest enemies of Somali people to help kill Somali civilians.

Ethiopian backed Somali rebels (Issaqs) invaded Somalia in 1982. They (SNM) were complicit in the killing of children in Awdal (via school bombing) and deaths/kidnappings of random geeljirs.

 

[roddybentancur]

Ethiopian backed Somali rebels (Issaqs) invaded Somalia in 1982. They (SNM) were complicit in the killing of children in Awdal (via school bombing) and deaths/kidnappings of random geeljires.

Can you read? it clearly says it was done by the ethiopians yet your autistic brain seems to think it was isaaqs. It is like saying abdullahi yusuf bombed borama when we all know it was by mengistu and nothing to do with ssdf and snm. Also, that hijacking was done because Siad Barre was locking up people for no reason. And like I said, I can give u thousands of reports from HRW on how they treated people in northern Somalia but I will just be wasting my time on someone who clearly is unable to read properly. But what u kacaan orphans never seem to understand is no man has a right to rule over somalia the way Siad did.

 

[anon2]

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Can you read? it clearly says it was done by the ethiopians yet your autistic brain seems to think it was isaaqs. It is like saying abdullahi yusuf bombed borama when we all know it was by mengistu and nothing to do with ssdf and snm. Also, that hijacking was done because Siad Barre was locking up people for no reason. And like I said, I can give u thousands of reports from HRW on how they treated people in northern Somalia but I will just be wasting my time on someone who clearly is unable to read properly. But what u kacaan orphans never seem to understand is no man has a right to rule over somalia the way Siad did.

Give me the HRW reports about "normal" civilians being targeted and abused by the government like what happened in Mudug/Bari/Nugaal? You said thousands so I'd like to see..

As for what I said, it's true, it was Issaq funded rebels with support from Ethiopian who helped facilitate these attacks, they had a part in nearly every attack and helped the enemies of Somalia by the terrorizing Somali civilians.

The fact that you are calling me autistic just shows that you can't look at this objectively. You are emotional about this topic.

 

[Griezmann7711]

Kacaanists and SNM supporters are two sides of the same coin. You're more similar than you guys think

Why would we not support SNM? It's like saying don't support the people that freed you. While we condemn if there were aggressors in that rebel group we support the ultimate cause, they are our heroes.

 

[Griezmann7711]

I am not a Kacaanist, but objectively speaking Kacaan > SNM. I only relay on data and facts, not emotion. Call Siyaad whatever you want but these SNM thugs are way worse and are directly and indirectly responsible for millions of Somali peoples death and suffering. They were and still are foreign agents who were traitors and terrorists

How are SNM responsible for millions of Somali peoples deaths? It's literally the Siad Barre and his kacaan buddies that are. You guys will never take accountability for your own actions, kacaan and Said Barre ruined Somalia that's a irrefutable fact.