Somalis vs the Chinese. One is feared and one is laughed at.

GemState

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One got rid of their dictator, the other didn't. Siad Barre will always be a better alternative to what came afterwards.

Likewise you can shit on Chinese dictator's all you want but their massacres, authoritian rule and decade long plans saved them. Same with the Soviet Union.

Scripts don't determine anything, Somalia has had cities for millenia's and even though its barely been studied there's all sorts of shit written around the country as noted by colonialist forces in Northern Somalia (in this particular case Brits chasing the Mullah).
Ancient Somali city
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Ancient Chinese city
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It's just not comparable, you can call them both cities to cope, but they are not the same.
there was writing in Somalia long before large parts of Europe, that doesn't explain why one is developed while the other lives in rafaad. Next time you have a stupid take, take moment to think about it.
There is a difference between writing and having a structured written language that records history.

I can read over 2000 year old records about the details of China's tax policy. The other had an agreed upon script made in the 60s and paints food and drink to a wall to indicate a restaurant in 2021. This is the difference between the 2 you are trying to compare.
 
Chinese are a bunch of different ethnic groups that were homogenized into 1 ethnic banner called the Han
Genetically yes they're very indistinguishable but they were all separate peoples with different languages and customs.
It'd be great if somalis got rid of qabil.

Chinese and Somalis can't be compared of course.
 

Yukon_Niner

Ugaas of the supreme gentleman
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Ancient Somali city
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Ancient Chinese city
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It's just not comparable, you can call them both cities to cope, but they are not the same.

There is a difference between writing and having a structured written language that records history.

I can read over 2000 year old records about the details of China's tax policy. The other had an agreed upon script made in the 60s and paints food and drink to a wall to indicate a restaurant in 2021. This is the difference between the 2 you are trying to compare.
You're comparing photos from two completely different periods mate. Everyone knows one was a significantly bigger civilization but if you're going to be disingenuous at least do it better.

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Absolutely not comparable and if you have any protests about it you're just coping.


Judging by what's written in all sorts of colonial sources your average Somali changed script like people change knickers. One is one of the most populous civilizations on earth with studies on it backed by a powerful government while the other is an underdeveloped nation recovering from war who's historical sources rely heavily on accounts from ancient trade, colonial observations and a few expeditions from international universities here and there. There are historical accounts of cities in Somalia collecting tax, there just aren't any documents on it for obvious reasons. You're not pulling papers from a war torn area.

The Chinese government had to create a handbook telling Chinese tourists not to defecate wherever. You don't seem to understand that your shitty comparisons smothered in ego soothing fatalistic overtones don't mean anything, nothing of what you've written explains why each nation took a different path. Egypt and Iraq predate China's civilization and yet both are massive shitholes compared to China. If the best argument for your point is hand painted adverts then I don't even know what to tell you aside from go travel the world or some shit because I've seen those in Egypt and the UK. With this sort of shitty logic Botswana should be a hellhole worse off than Somalia.

I've always wondered what was up with the masses of males on the internet speaking conclusively on topics they have zero knowledge on.
 
They didn't have their own script. The very few elite used Arabic to transcribe Somali.

One has used the same script from the time the Ancient Egyptians and Greeks were around and has still preserved it, the other paints food and drink to a wall to indicate that it is a Restaurant.

Yes, scripts are very important
There’s been evidence of inscriptions from pre-Islamic times, like I said, barely any archeological work has been done over there.
In an 1878 report to the Royal Geographical Society of Great Britain, Johann Maria Hildebrandt noted upon visiting the area that "we know from ancient authors that these districts, at present so desert, were formerly populous and civilised[...] I also discovered ancient ruins and rock-inscriptions both in pictures and characters[...] These have hitherto not been deciphered
According to the Ministry of Information and National Guidance of Somalia, inscriptions can be found on various old Taalo Tiiriyaad structures. These are enormous stone mounds found especially in northeastern Somalia. Among the main sites where these Taalo are located are Xabaalo Ambiyad in Alula District, Baar Madhere in Beledweyne District, and Harti Yimid in Las Anod District.
Iran didn’t even know the city of Persepolis really existed until they dug the dirt,:manny:
 

digaagjecel

SSpots starting point guard
Clan worshiping camel whisperers have never been good at seeing reality. Getting rid of your ego is the first step and the next step is realizing you suck at everything.
 
Scripts don't determine anything, Somalia has had cities for millenia's and even though its barely been studied there's all sorts of shit written around the country as noted by colonialist forces in Northern Somalia (in this particular case Brits chasing the Mullah).

From officer McNiell's book

there was writing in Somalia long before large parts of Europe, that doesn't explain why one is developed while the other lives in rafaad. Next time you have a stupid take, take moment to think about it.
There’s been evidence of inscriptions from pre-Islamic times, like I said, barely any archeological work has been done over there.
Those were Sabean and Himyarite writings, not done by proto Somali, Sada Mire already talked about this.
There could be other unknown inscriptions not yet found, but the ones you're talking about are Sabean/Himyarite.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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East Asians had this nasty habit of killing of whole clans for the mistakes of one of their members.

This is where their whole collectivist mindset comes from.

If they f*ck up they doom 9 generations of relatives...
 

Lofi99

LOFI HIGH
Chinese acknowledged their failure throughout the 20th century/The century of humiliation, and vowed to never repeat it. We need to take notes from them, those guys are at the cusp of eclipsing the west.
But will it happen , American and Russians are such hassids they will nuke the world before they let the asian man rule . We will see either way blood has to spill if China's want to rule but the thing is to many countries got nukes and will use it in ww3 o by the way that's coming sooner or later .
 

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