Somalis still colonized in 2020

[DR OSMAN]

Somalia is for Muslims calaacalka jooji

Somalia is for Muslims cause u regulate out other idealogies from reaching the people, nice try kiddo. Ur islam requires you to exist, it cannot exist on it's own, runta halaysku sheego it's a false doctrine made by men because it requires men to maintain it. I knew Islam was fake when I saw it doesn't stand on it's own hence there is no supernatural about it, waa arin rag qoray oo uu bahan rag inu ilaliyo halka shacabka aad uu sheegtan wuxu ka imi illahi kama iman illahi beenta ka daa umaada u can't even handle anyone challenging u as u will run to shariah courts like a p1ssy b1tch. U can't dodge that and u know that deep down

 

[Baruur]

Somalia is for Muslims cause u regulate out other idealogies from reaching the people, nice try kiddo. Ur islam requires you to exist, it cannot exist on it's own, runta halaysku sheego it's a false doctrine made by men because it requires men to maintain it. I knew Islam was fake when I saw it doesn't stand on it's own hence there is no supernatural about it, waa arin rag qoray oo uu bahan rag inu ilaliyo halka shacabka aad uu sheegtan wuxu ka imi illahi kama iman illahi beenta ka daa umaada u can't even handle anyone challenging u as u will run to shariah courts like a p1ssy b1tch. U can't dodge that and u know that deep down

What have I dodged

 

[DR OSMAN]

What have I dodged

War orod wejigaga naga garso, attempting to respond with that will only expose how u r not responding to a single point and deflecting. I always knew muslims are not really muslims because u cannot with-stand criticism as u all crumble down proving it's all fake. How are u a muslim when u don't even critically think about the other side against Islam? that is not faith, it's blind faith.

The only thing that I do know science does seem to confirm is early mosques did exist in the time period of mohamed so I will give u that and the textual dating of the oldest quran does go back to that time so it does have ancient roots but there is a dispute about the meaning of the quran where some have found descrepancies between the ancient quranic text against modern quranic text interpretation. But there is a huge debate about mecca location because all the early mosques show they point to Jordan or Israel direction.

Plus the description of mohamed homeland in hadith seems to indicate farming communities especially in medina but we know there is no farming in modern medina. So there is a-lot of problems when scientifically tested the narrative location of Islam birth place. Your real mecca is predicated to be in jordan valley where there is farms but there is a river also. I am not sure if rivers r mentioned in medina but I don't remember reading it was but farming was mentioned that is for certain.

 

[Marsin]

Somalia is for Muslims calaacalka jooji

Whats wrong with hosting people from other religions?
hope your not living in a western country talking like that.

 

[Som]

The colonialism problem is due to Somalis still uniting over colonial identity which they created called Somali and neglecting the fact we do not hold the same idealogies, aspirations which will lead to fragmentation and hence the return of colonialism.

We need a society that is free and equal as these are universal ideals that can unite somali people, but if we keep up this nonsense of somalinimo which is a colonial inheritance, we are playing into the hands of colonials. They probably want that knowing unity doesn't come thru language, ethnicity, religion, it comes thru uniting on respecting and protecting human rights only. Americans are not united because they are americans but because they want to protect their freedom. The unity is freedom of it's people not their nationality like these backward somalis still want to hold onto nationalism not knowing that nationalism is inherited from colonial era itself.

Waxad tihin dad maskaxda laga wada wasay and u r circulating around the same concepts of colonial era, of course u will u will be colonialized untill u change the somali idealogy that was inherited from colonialism or else be stuck in this rut for centuries.

Bullshit.
Other countries are more fragmented than us have LESS colonialism and foreign influence.
We are one of the most homogeneous people in subsaharan Africa . Habashis have ober 80 ethnic groups and have more control over their land than us and we are just 2-3 ethnic groups max(somali, mixed-benadiri, bantu)

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

There is nothing called somalis, its every region for itself.

 

[Som]

There is nothing called somalis, its every region for itself.

This exactly what westerners, arabs, habashis, kenyans etc want. They want to remove our somali identity.
We are the only nation state in africa, and that's our biggest strength if we solve our problems

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

@PuntiteQueen at least u understood, they don't know they are playing at the hand of colonialism by speaking of Somalinimo, since it was inherited from colonialism. At one hand they say they hate colonialism yet they love the idealogy that came from colonialism. It is inconsistent statement, to reject colonialism, u must reject also somalinimo since somalinimo didn't exist before colonialism.

Facts from Ditoore, "Somalinimo" idealogy is from the devil colonists that has held our people back.

 

[Som]

Facts from Ditoore, "Somalinimo" idealogy is from the devil colonists that has held our people back.

Soomaalinimo is a FACT.
The fact we speak the same language and the fact outsiders clearly always described us as one people indicates that somalinimo is infact very real.

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Soomaalinimo is a FACT.
The fact we speak the same language and the fact outsiders clearly always described us as one people indicates that somalinimo is infact very real.

Not true, i share little with someone from let say Hargeisa or Baidoa. We definitely dont speak the same language. Lets agree to disagree boowe.

 

[Som]

Anyw

Not true, i share little with someone from let say Hargeisa or Baidoa. We definitely dont speak the same language. Lets agree to disagree boowe.

Bro, stop joking. Maybe you believe in PL independence or balkanizing Somalia, fine. I don't agree with that but that's your opinion, but don't go as far as denying somali identiy.
We speak the same exact language, and we look so similar that we recognize each other in the street. Almost no other people in africa can do that.
If I see a faarax or xalimo i know with 99% certainty they are somali whether they are from Hargeysa, Xamar or Kismaayo.
You share little with someone from Hargeysa? Come on. Qabil isn't real, somaliness is real genetically, linguistically and culturally.

 

[Som]

Not true, i share little with someone from let say Hargeisa or Baidoa. We definitely dont speak the same language. Lets agree to disagree boowe.

You just uses af somali (boowe) while telling me that we don't speak the same language .

 

[Som]

The colonialism problem is due to Somalis still uniting over colonial identity which they created called Somali and neglecting the fact we do not hold the same idealogies, aspirations which will lead to fragmentation and hence the return of colonialism.

We need a society that is free and equal as these are universal ideals that can unite somali people, but if we keep up this nonsense of somalinimo which is a colonial inheritance, we are playing into the hands of colonials. They probably want that knowing unity doesn't come thru language, ethnicity, religion, it comes thru uniting on respecting and protecting human rights only. Americans are not united because they are americans but because they want to protect their freedom. The unity is freedom of it's people not their nationality like these backward somalis still want to hold onto nationalism not knowing that nationalism is inherited from colonial era itself.

Waxad tihin dad maskaxda laga wada wasay and u r circulating around the same concepts of colonial era, of course u will u will be colonialized untill u change the somali idealogy that was inherited from colonialism or else be stuck in this rut for centuries.

Again, always criticizing but no solutions. What values should somalis have to be United? Free and equal society is too generic

 

[Som]

@Baruur you said secularism is an SYL philosophy? no the secularism syl promoted was fascism not human rights, sure they accommodated freedom of religion but it wasn't because they respected human rights but because they respected Somalinimo as superior idea to Islam. They replaced one identity idealogy for another identity idealogy.

I promote secular humanism idealogy not secular somalism, where human rights is the foundation of the state not a govt parroting an identity preservation or worse yet playing god and legislating laws of god onto people as if they are god themselves that sort of shit is horrific where a state takes on the shape of holiness lol. U r confused kid learn to know u will not enjoy any rights above anyone else irrespective of their religion or lack there-of. U can hate them all u want that is your choice but u won't start eliminating other people's right just because u don't agree, learn your role, futadada ilasho.

How would implement secular humanism in Somalia or even your region of PL?

 

[Nafiso Qalanjo]

President cheese is better off being a body positivity Instagram model than a president.

 

[Crow]

Doesn't look like you can protect

I sent that tweet to someone involved in this trade and this is what he had to say:

that's horseshit dont let anyone fool you with reer badiye ppl who peddle these false stories, its 2020 and the internet exists. The reer badiye artinsal miner in the mountains knows the market rate of these minerals nd will only give it to u similar or for a discount then the market buying price. Nothing costs 20$ in Somalia and is resold for tens of thousnds

Copper ores are bought at on average 600-700$ per ton based on the % of the copper in the ore in the international market. Miners will sell to u for around 450$per ton. Dealers make a small profit if anything. Its 2020 relax bro.

Rare minerals cannot be mined cause they are to costly and require much labor and equipment that cannot be imported easily Dont beleive these fake somali stories

I'm talking about first hand experince

Look at that thread u shared, Google the market price of those minerals for other countries even Canada how much they export them for and I gurantee u, u wont see much difference at the rates it's being exported. Company shown their 1 belongs to my friend whose Somali the dude is talking outta his ass trying to gain followers

Bro I swear these Somalis are full of shit lol the isaaqs and warsengalis artisanal miners killing eachother in sanag for gold will sell u nuggets almost the same as international Gold price lol Everyone has a touch screen fone with access to the internet