Somalis need to step up

[Khaem]

We need to expand our influence. The scholars, scientist, mathematicians, political ideologies of the 21st century should be Somali.

 

[Soul Kaizer]

Inorder to have that we need to support the creative people in our nation.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

You need western colonization for at least 10 generations if you want that.

 

[Khaem]

You need western colonization for at least 10 generations if you want that.

Westerners gonna get colonised by the Chinese in that time

 

[Nomadic lord]

You need western colonization for at least 10 generations if you want that.

Why are you always cooning out so hard?

 

[Sigmundd]

It won't happen in our lifetime.

 

[Khanderson]

Lets encourage the educated Somalis from the diaspora to contribute to Somalia.

I don’t think the people from Somalia have any proper influence to educations.

There needs to be an investment on them.


Imagine an advertisement for the diasporas: the Somali government should advertise by encouraging and investing the diasporas by giving them a career based options.

like constructions, computer science (most Somalis are top recruit) politics (some diasporas are doing well on those careers).

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Westerners gonna get colonised by the Chinese in that time

Why are you always cooning out so hard?

If you want radical change, you need radical solutions. Compared to other groups, there are fewer Somalis with the skills Somalia needs and they will never go back to Somalia. The survival of the Somali people depends on colonization. The country is getting poorer every year, governments are getting tired saving Somalia from droughts and famine, etc. Give the Americans a stake that makes it worth their while. It should be done now before the world fully transitions away from oil and gas. The window of opportunity is now or say bye-bye to the Somali ethnic group

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Lets encourage the educated Somalis from the diaspora to contribute to Somalia.

Somali people don't even say "asalamu alaykum" anymore to random Somalis they see in areas without much Somali people. They do not care to give Somali hooyos rides while waiting at the bus stop in -15 degree weather. You have to think rationally now, not emotionally and not with pride. 99.9% of diaspora Somalis with important credentials and experience will not go back to Somalia; only those looking for second wives and deported individuals go back. It's less shameful to be conquered by the world's only superpower for some time than the current state of Somalia. Let's do the right thing; let's push for this approach. The first generation Somalis aren't even going back to Somalia anymore; they are either dying or they are now unhealthy and require western health care. You guys think their kids care about Somalia? Remittances will disappear. This is an emergency and it requires the Americans to take over.

 

[Nomadic lord]

If you want radical change, you need radical solutions. Compared to other groups, there are fewer Somalis with the skills Somalia needs and they will never go back to Somalia. The survival of the Somali people depends on colonization. The country is getting poorer every year, governments are getting tired saving Somalia from drugs and famine, etc. Give the Americans a state that makes it worth their while. It should be done now before the world fully transitions away from oil and gas. The window of opportunity is now it say bye-bye to the Somali ethnic group

Did your white boyfriend tell you to write all that?

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

Did your white boyfriend tell you to write all that?

Go destroy yourselves with your 100 clan states, you third world animals.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

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[Nomadic lord]

Go destroy yourselves with your 100 clan states, you third world animals.

@AbdiFreedom You're just too much, but on a real note, Somalia is getting better; it isn't getting "poorer." Being colonized in this day and age is the ultimate humiliation. This act wouldn't make Somalia any better; it would set us back 1000 years.

 

[Nilotic]

Go destroy yourselves with your 100 clan states, you third world animals.

You are too much, mate


The way you express the message is a lot more caustic and strident than I would ever attempt... but you're essentially right that the widespread and systematic adoption of Western political, economic, scientific and technological structures, methods, processes and methodologies is a matter of survival.

I no longer care about retaining or subscribing to emotionally appealing guff that doesn't actually improve anything.

 

[Yahya]

Lets encourage the educated Somalis from the diaspora to contribute to Somalia.

I don’t think the people from Somalia have any proper influence to educations.

There needs to be an investment on them.


Imagine an advertisement for the diasporas: the Somali government should advertise by encouraging and investing the diasporas by giving them a career based options.

like constructions, computer science (most Somalis are top recruit) politics (some diasporas are doing well on those careers).

The Somali government needs to take the oil profits and invest in it's diaspora. And I'm talking about paid rent, company car, double the western salary and no taxes. Offer me that and I'll gladly take my family back home and contribute. Inshallah that will be possible by 2035.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

@AbdiFreedom You're just too much, but on a real note, Somalia is getting better; it isn't getting "poorer." Being colonized in this day and age is the ultimate humiliation. This act wouldn't make Somalia any better; it would set us back 1000 years.

No it's not. Somalia is actually getting poorer. It's GDP per capita is shrinking every year. Remittances are drying up. There are zero opportunities for the Somali youth. 50% are 15 or younger and the population is exploding. Even bleeding heart, nacas Canada is cutting aid budgets. Game over. It's the end of the road.

You are too much, mate


The way you express the message is a lot more caustic and strident than I would ever attempt... but you're essentially right that the widespread and systematic adoption of Western political, economic, scientific and technological structures, methods, processes and methodologies is a matter of survival.

I no longer care about retaining or subscribing to emotionally appealing guff that doesn't actually improve anything.

You have to be firm and aggressive with the Somolions. You cannot be sweet and kind to them, which only works for other people. Somalis take the lovey-dovey crap as weakness. They only react to the gun or in this case, insults and being talked down to. There is hope for South Sudan because you come from a rational and understanding people; Somalis are anything but rational and understanding. It is in their culture and upbringing to be this way and its been like this for over a millenia. They only care about their immediate sub-clans (sometimes even further down than that) and do not care about the bigger picture. Most importantly, there is also a stalemate in the 35 year civil war. Somalis in Somalia/Djibouti exist today only because of aid and also remittances, thanks to the kindness of other countries that let them in. If this were any other country, I would never advise this but this is Somalia we are talking about.

 

[Step a side]

No it's not. Somalia is actually getting poorer. It's GDP per capita is shrinking every year. Remittances are drying up. There are zero opportunities for the Somali youth. 50% are 15 or younger and the population is exploding. Even bleeding heart, nacas Canada is cutting aid budgets. Game over. It's the end of the road.



You have to be firm and aggressive with the Somolions. You cannot be sweet and kind to them, which only works for other people. Somalis take the lovey-dovey crap as weakness. They only react to the gun or in this case, insults and being talked down to. There is hope for South Sudan because you come from a rational and understanding people; Somalis are anything but rational and understanding. It is in their culture and upbringing to be this way and its been like this for over a millenia. They only care about their immediate sub-clans (sometimes even further down than that) and do not care about the bigger picture. Most importantly, there is also a stalemate in the 35 year civil war. Somalis in Somalia/Djibouti exist today only because of aid and also remittances, thanks to the kindness of other countries that let them in. If this were any other country, I would never advise this but this is Somalia we are talking about.

I agree with you.

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

I agree with you.

They need to clean up their culture. It's a really shitty culture. They will actually call you stupid if you are in government and don't engage in corruption and don't steal money. They will call you "nacas" and "dhaandhaan". This is how they think. Only radical methods will change this.

 

[Isinimo]

They need cultural fixing. They will actually call you stupid if you are in government and don't engage in corruption and don't steal money. They will call you "nacas" and "dhaandhaan". This is how they think. Only radical methods will change this.

Hogwash. For 30 years of war and Al shabaab, that has been at their door the last thing they’d want is a corrupt leader.

 

[Isinimo]

We need to expand our influence. The scholars, scientist, mathematicians, political ideologies of the 21st century should be Somali.

Indeed.