Somali's and their hypocrisy with religious law

[The Oponian Guild]

This will not change this century. Somalis are not secular and no future government will be one. Our society is conservative with one major flaw.

The weakness of institutional power due to clannism. Governments are powerless at controlling clans, not being able to punish their members as that will be interpreted as an act of war or prefential treatment. Kacaan government came close but they fücked up horrendously in the end. ICU also came close but were not allowed to rule for long. AS has subdued clans underneath it bar few and its the only somali led organisation in the HoA that has been successful in this.

The khawariji dogs have been successfull due to somali society being conservative. They showed their true colors after gaining power, being extremely ruthless. Thats how they have been able to maintain their power but its not the reason why they gained it. They will in the end lose their power due to harshness.

There is only 2 ways to govern somalis on a large scale. Clan confederations or Islam based organisations. PL and SL came into existence after local clans banded together. As we have seen in the war in Sool, clans trying to subdue each other ends up in disaster. PL has been peaceful due to practically being one clan state and having close blood relations with the other clans that live there. SL has also been peaceful outside of Sool and Sanaag, once again because of being one clan state and being blood relative of the other clans.


So how can we govern somalis across clan borders? Islam. Only answer we have. Kacaan failed. We are not secular. Only thing that matters is if the people have food in their bellies and they can become rich. That will only happen if somalis learn to work and respect each other, which will happen of we implement sharia correctly.
Somalis will not care if hudud punishments will be carried, they will cheer for them. We seriously underestimate how conservative we are and especially how big of a percentage of our population is conservative. Few ilbax folks have distorted our view of somalis.


@reer You had a similar post way back, @Burqad you too if I remember.

Even Islamic institutions are not safe from qabyalad, ICU got involved in clan politics and pitted clans and subclans against each other in order to sow division and make sure there was no viable alternative or coalition that could challenge them in the future, this was their thinking. Truth of the matter is, there is no way to unify, nothing is free from Qabyalad. Every man has his own patch to defend and look after, he has his own interests and priorities.

That’s why one must accept its existence and work within it to balance it with progress and advancement. Somalis must embrace confederation. It will pave the way to eventual thawing of clan frictions and the emergence of unity in the future.

 

[Shayla]

Even Islamic institutions are not safe from qabyalad, ICU got involved in clan politics and pitted clans and subclans against each other in order to sow division and make sure there was no viable alternative or coalition that could challenge them in the future, this was their thinking. Truth of the matter is, there is no way to unify, nothing is free from Qabyalad. Every man has his own patch to defend and look after, he has his own interests and priorities.

That’s why one must accept its existence and work within it to balance it with progress and advancement. Somalis must embrace confederation. It will pave the way to eventual thawing of clan frictions and the emergence of unity in the future.

They only thing that will free Somalis from qabyaalad is money. Cold hard cash.

Nobody is going to choose qabil over becoming rich.

 

[DR OSMAN]

This will not change this century. Somalis are not secular and no future government will be one. Our society is conservative with one major flaw.

The weakness of institutional power due to clannism. Governments are powerless at controlling clans, not being able to punish their members as that will be interpreted as an act of war or prefential treatment. Kacaan government came close but they fücked up horrendously in the end. ICU also came close but were not allowed to rule for long. AS has subdued clans underneath it bar few and its the only somali led organisation in the HoA that has been successful in this.

The khawariji dogs have been successfull due to somali society being conservative. They showed their true colors after gaining power, being extremely ruthless. Thats how they have been able to maintain their power but its not the reason why they gained it. They will in the end lose their power due to harshness.

There is only 2 ways to govern somalis on a large scale. Clan confederations or Islam based organisations. PL and SL came into existence after local clans banded together. As we have seen in the war in Sool, clans trying to subdue each other ends up in disaster. PL has been peaceful due to practically being one clan state and having close blood relations with the other clans that live there. SL has also been peaceful outside of Sool and Sanaag, once again because of being one clan state and being blood relative of the other clans.


So how can we govern somalis across clan borders? Islam. Only answer we have. Kacaan failed. We are not secular. Only thing that matters is if the people have food in their bellies and they can become rich. That will only happen if somalis learn to work and respect each other, which will happen of we implement sharia correctly.
Somalis will not care if hudud punishments will be carried, they will cheer for them. We seriously underestimate how conservative we are and especially how big of a percentage of our population is conservative. Few ilbax folks have distorted our view of somalis.


@reer You had a similar post way back, @Burqad you too if I remember.

Conservative is traditions like neo traditionalism which mocks religion and secular as mainstream and brings ppl together on silly unifying ideologies because they're cultures are generally lower grade and fear division on culture first, ancestors first, as they argue God doesn't need help but their ancestors do need honor and they need to protect their collective land interest and people survival first.

Neo traditionalism is the most dangerous philosophy in mankind, Mugabe got sacked for it before it turned into a continental wide movement like independence era. The Problem with unifying ideologies like religion is simple, noone wants to share their wealth or power with distant nations.

Quran never said to create caliphate it said we r nations n tribes and that will never change we only brothers after death not on earth nigga adigu qowm baad ii tahay and we need borders as Noah taught his kids after the flood. Noah sharci meel uma socodo sxb your first a man or woman, u have a name, u have a location or real estate, u have resources, or customs, u have different attire, diets, languages, plus different values and thinking styles

Due to all this u have an interest at all times willingly or unwilling. U can yap all day about we is bradda in God sake I respond we r brother in the next life in this life xaduuud ayaa noo yaalo(Noah legacy borders)

 

[DR OSMAN]

Habesh mahmah is only thing roaming at nite in Addis was Somalis and Dogs, meaning these people are satanic as the normal world sleeps their roaming the street in most pitch black areas possibly encountering many iblis satanic forces who bring them out of humanity and into the dark world.

I don't believe I belong in this world also as their is a world just like ours but it's darkness being the norm and the sun is very dim and rises rarely and everyone hates it in the jinn world kinda like those Sweden northern areas where nite outstrips the day and these beings exist there and think you guys in this world of daytime is sickening.