Somaliland will never gain independence

[TheLand]

Cirro cabinet is pro Somalia so they're going to do little engagement with pushing Somaliland forward. China and US will most likely strengthen ties which makes S-land campaign futile.

It also doesn’t make sense if Ethiopia still has the MOU. If Somaliland is recognized that MOU is out the window and Ethiopia, France etc will be left empty handed. SL should have kept Muse he was more energetic and interested in independence.

 

[TheLand]

I want the benefits of xamar (added foreign investments + relationships) and I want a way out of that Berbera port deal. Taiwan are useless, China are close with Ethiopia if that corridor gets built properly then we’ll be straight. Also don’t want SL to become a melting pot hellhole like banaadir. Best case scenario is h-town becomes de facto capital, and xamar becomes capital in name.

What’s the point of having Turks +hawiye as an enemy? We have the same regional goals so we can work together. Having bayraktars in Waqooyi would be lovely.

FGS will be willing to compromise, they want to be known as the admin who “brought back SL”. If there’s anything we’ve learnt about FGS is it’s they respect contracts lol we’ll be able to scam them

Are you even aware of what’s going on in Xamar sxb? If you were paying attention you wouldn’t be saying any of this. There is nothing left in Xamar even for its own people let alone anyone else.

 

[berberaboy66]

Are you even aware of what’s going on in Xamar sxb? If you were paying attention you wouldn’t be saying any of this. There is nothing left in Xamar even for its own people let alone anyone else.

Yeah because the leaders there are absolute buffoons. You don’t think they’re trying? Turks are doing everything they can and Hassan is still sabotaging. I just need them to pick sides, we all know which admin they’d prefer

 

[Sigmundd]

It also doesn’t make sense if Ethiopia still has the MOU. If Somaliland is recognized that MOU is out the window and Ethiopia, France etc will be left empty handed. SL should have kept Muse he was more energetic and interested in independence.

Muse was willing to sell our shores for pathetic gains. Good riddance. Only decent thing I can say is his passion for wanting a independent Somaliland. Cirro I don't trust at all I just pray the mou deal becomes futile since these xabash are already in talks with Somalia for a port and I don't want us to be their second victim.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

I want the benefits of xamar (added foreign investments + relationships) and I want a way out of that Berbera port deal. Taiwan are useless, China are close with Ethiopia if that corridor gets built properly then we’ll be straight. Also don’t want SL to become a melting pot hellhole like banaadir. Best case scenario is h-town becomes de facto capital, and xamar becomes capital in name.

What’s the point of having Turks +hawiye as an enemy? We have the same regional goals so we can work together. Having bayraktars in Waqooyi would be lovely.

FGS will be willing to compromise, they want to be known as the admin who “brought back SL”. If there’s anything we’ve learnt about FGS is it’s they respect contracts lol we’ll be able to scam them

I don't get it. You just hanging on to old dreams. HSM is hag interest and they don't see any confederation. SL is Hawiye territority like JL, and PL. Hawiye second homes and holiday homes in Hargeisa and Berbera.

 

[TheLand]

I don't get it. You just hanging on to old dreams. HSM is hag interest and they don't see any confederation. SL is Hawiye territority like JL, and PL. Hawiye second homes and holiday homes in Hargeisa and Berbera.

A holiday home in hot as hell Berbera? You gotta be kidding my guy.

 

[Som]

Wether they get independence or not the relationship with them is too bad to be recovered. They are gone even if they are still legally part of Somalia, most of them hate us with passion and will support anyone if it damages Somalia. I don't see reunification any time soon. A lot of landers were against the union from day one and they sabotaged it as soon as they got the chance . If things stay as they are fine , if they get ictiraaf they'll be a hostile enemy country

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

A holiday home in hot as hell Berbera? You gotta be kidding my guy.

True but they still want those houses lol.

People talking about confederation.

Hawiye are primative accumulation types.

 

[Som]

I feel like Somaliland should ditch secessionism and embrace unionism that benefits Somaliland. Why doesn’t the government set clear terms for what they want in terms of reconciliation? It would be bad on the FGS’s part if they declined that. If I were Cirro, I would say that the capital city should move to Hargeisa.

There's no chance, even if by miracle they decided to rejoin they would start calling for secession after a few years. You have no idea how much anti Somalia landers are , the middle aged 45 year old lander was just 11 years old when the war started, they know nothing about somalia and see us as a foreign country. They even proudly say they feel closer to Xabashis than us

 

[Som]

The only rational policy towards Somaliland should be recovering SSC regions and doing everything to support them , Hargeysa , Burco and Berbera aren't my concern tbh they can do what they want

 

[TheLand]

True but they still want those houses lol.

People talking about confederation.

Hawiye are primative accumulation types.

But you said SL is hawiye territory?

 

[Vacelere]

Why would we want to rejoin Somalia, especially now when the country is filled with corruption and incompetent leaders with a failed system. And no the capital city won't be Hargeisa because we aren't apart of Somalia.

Dhulbahante wouldn't return back to the butcher and if the samaron got chance they will break away.

So take Hargeisa and it's surroundings and call yourself Somaliland.

Best African democracy myth.

Alhamdullilah the war of lascanood showed the true face of SL

 

[Sigmundd]

Dhulbahante wouldn't return back to the butcher and if the samaron got chance they will break away.

So take Hargeisa and it's surroundings and call yourself Somaliland.

Best African democracy myth.

Alhamdullilah the war of lascanood showed the true face of SL

Awdal region is surrounded by Somaliland and majority are pro S-land. Don't listen to few probably paid agents pushing for a ",free" awdal state.

 

[Vacelere]

Awdal region is surrounded by Somaliland and majority are pro S-land. Don't listen to few probably paid agents pushing for a ",free" awdal state.

You core claim of breaking from somalia was that MSB massacred you but well you did the same to dhulbahante so aren't your landers hypocrite.

And don't you know SL recognition will bring a domino effect to somalia which will make us (somalis) an easy meal for Kenya and Ethiopia

And if SL is recognized which border will it have the current ( without khatumo state) or the old one.

SL independence wouldn't bring any good

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

But you said SL is hawiye territory?

Soon

 

[Sigmundd]

You core claim of breaking from somalia was that MSB massacred you but well you did the same to dhulbahante so aren't your landers hypocrite.

And don't you know SL recognition will bring a domino effect to somalia which will make us (somalis) an easy meal for Kenya and Ethiopia

And if SL is recognized which border will it have the current ( without khatumo state) or the old one.

SL independence wouldn't bring any good

Save your words there's anyways little chance we are going to gain independence since USA is strengthening ties wih China.

 

[Garsoore]

All I see is a NGO careerist that through connections and 4.5 quotas managed to squeeze into the comfortable senior advisor of interior ministry position. I'd pardon my cousin if he was exiled for political BS. Why can't family meet and drink tea together?

 

[Abdisamad]

The broken Somaliweyn dreams which refuses to die haunts all like..

 

[Bahal]

This is the reality all Somalis are turning a blind eye to

We cannot feed our children. We are wholly dependent on the generosity of the western taxpayer for our people to literally not starve to death, from Zeila to Ras Kambooni.

We are beggars arguing over a begging bowl.

 

[Pastoralist]

@Sigmundd I read everything there and didn’t know that guy before, people like him are common in SL but some just aren’t used to them being close to heads of state.

Btw being “independent” without independence is the definition of getting looted. Without independence you’re getting 50 cents on your dollar unfortunately. It’s basically an easy robbery for countries like UAE and Taiwan.

there’s a lot misinfo floating about this administration recently regarding their capabilities, but there is resource sharing agreement to which 5/5 states agreed, deni later tried to say it’s no longer valid since he disagrees with gaas’s signature but that’s not how it works over personal grudges with farmaajo. That’s not how it works, consensus is consensus.