Somaliland The Land Of Success

[DR OSMAN]

Wallahi markay ragga tashdan oo wax samayan, anigu ma xasido, it's because my dad taught me about our clan culture, gacan baan uu taaga waana is dhiiba si aan anigu 'faido' ka helo also. The worst thing u can do for yourself is to compete, fight, oppose. Because he continues to power on, the only one losing is you. Negiotation is paramount in that situation. They will probably have a 1000 elites with harvard degrees while PL/MOG are talking about constitution and they are not talking about constitution lets be real, they just trying to add their 'clan agendas' cause nothing they say is based on the scientific method and provable beyond 'words'.

This is going to be a 'long game' of cat n mouse. I suggest in the 'mean time' we access abaarso and establish a good base while the cat n mouse game continues in Somalia. I wouldn't be 'abusive' as much as I then see at least they are doing 'something' useful not wasting all their time into Somalia. I remember the despair in Hamar in 99, wallahi the only one who loses by focusing his energy and time there is YOU. That's why the west pulled out after 91, sxb you losing time/resources/manpower/ on a place that isn't returning a benefit. U could've spent that somewhere else, the longer u remain with them, u just continue in the losses for yourself as the world 'flies by' you.

Now let's appreciate Somaliland for once, rather then hate them. U think I hate clans don't u? I hate clans because I refuse to sit there in some bibito and fly on my face arguing with u for another 30 years and going back and forth. I have to get up like my ancestor did and relocate from bari to start a new life in nugaal. I am preparing to relocate all our clans-men who are split 5 ways into falidhidin village in sool if Sool signs a deal with SL. It will become a big district and therefore I will get at least 2 mps and more then adhicadeeye and faqishini. I already have 2 in garowe and that's only 'reer magaal' and few nomads in the region. If we come together into falidhidin, I will get 2 mps in SL, well as long as it's more then Faqishini because I live 5 ways and armed, does he?

So lets sing somaliland song, now I am happy, i see hope for bah dubays

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Crow ITS A REPEAT OF 1960 FOR MY FATHER WHO RAN TO HAMAR FOR STUDIES, ITS POWERFUL INSTITUTION NIYAHOW. HAMAR BECAME LOVED CAUSE OF EDUCATION NOT TRADE AS EVERYONE HAD TRADE FROM OLD KINGDOM. BUT MY AWOOWE SAID TO LOOK AFTER OUR LAND, HE KEPT OUR MIYI BACKED UP AND ARMED IN CASE ONE DAY WE NEED LAND. CUZ U CANT BE GOB WITHOUT LAND, SOLDIERS, ISIMO, DIYA REGESTRITION ETC.

HARGEISA IS THE NEW 1960 RAT RACE FOR WESTERN SCHOLARSHIP. TRUST ME IF MY AWOOWE FORCED MY DAD TO GO TO HAMAR, I AM FORCING BAH DUBAYS NOW TO GET A HEAD START BEFORE THE RUSH OF SOMALIS COME.

IF U WANT HAMAR THATS FINE AS LONG AS WE TALK ABOUT WAR ECONOMY, LIKE ORGAN TRADE, PRIVATE MILITARY MERCENARIES, ETC. ITS A WA RZONE CUZ ITS UNDECIDED PLACE NIYAHOW

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Crow STUDY CHAOS Theory scientifically and the benefits from it and present your knowledge how PL can benefit from Mogadishu, but this idea we just keep insulting them, we been doing that since 91, and the situation is the same. Just let it go, let them decide, we can't decide anything for them, it cant come from top down approach, reer mogadishu waa inay iyagu tashdan ka bacdi dalka uu yeeran, till then i want NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM AND HIS TIME WASTING.

Hamar tashday is great even if u want centralism, I WILL ACCEPT. Just bring hawiye tashday oo go'an qaatay, wax kale lama waydinayo, we dont care if you want darod minorities even, just hawiye go'an leh oo la yirahdo LETS TRY THIS NOW. U think i really care about power guys dont u hahahahah, thats where u make a clear error. I only suupport federalism cause i see benefits if i didnt i wouldnt or else i cant see how centralism and hamar will work when he cant unite even afgoye with them or even xafadaha hamar i cant accept that nonsense of centralism they just playing JAMBAL, cause abtiyashayda markaysan xal gabin they just prefer to oppose so u dont think their in chaos inside, they dont know what they want niyahow but they dont want anything u propose weeye their siyasad hence shabab, jambals, warlords, 4.5, they lay down jambals everywhere si LOO DABA DHEEREYO DAGAALKA

 

[Zaara]

This is a random question but what kind of Dr are you?

 

[DR OSMAN]

This is a random question but what kind of Dr are you?

I can't live in Isaaq areas, I am not registered to Isaaq diya. I can live in Sool cause of 'darod diya' system. This just means our clan is armed so it needs 'insurance' or cover for our locals. I have 12.5 camels just in-case for 'diya' payments if one of our clans-men f*ck up(which is quite rare) beyond a few 'criminal' elements(some as long back as darawish era) but it's dealt with quickly and promptly as we don't jepordize our whole clan over a criminal kkkkkk like hawiye. Isim have long centuries of 'respect' so they are not going to jepordize that trust over 1 loser like cognissive or even me. It's what keeps the order. But I am armed, 5 different ways in Nugaal and Sool border with 5 different clans who are all armed(not civilians in city or midg0, Madow) those are given court access cause their not 'armed' clan. Well that's how I understood the culture from my father which is paramount to know these ppl before u even suggest anything. The gob are known as giving the gun justice and compete who is most merciful to the weak in our culture because u got nothing to prove after u achieved gob status(arms, isim, order, dhaqan, and diya) they know u can defend yourself then and your land your stakeholder basically.

But some unarmed clans are respected which is ironic my dad loves awrtable, arab salax, reer omar, etc because waa dad tarikh leh, sumcad, wax dhisa. So unarmed clans also seem to have this gob and gun process weird huh but its how they think the old ppl who influence their kids so u need to know. So not all unarmed clans are bad, it all DEPENDS

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Zaara Even the gob clans are ranked as how large ur land holdings are, their is rank between gob, the worst among us coastal/nomadic type muse suldan, he ranks lowest cuz he shares power with midg0, Madows, meaning he cant sit with gob like garowe council. See it like premier league you got manchester united thats GAROWE, the capital, strong hold. Then u have coastal areas that are bit more wala 'yaasa' because their with weak people and its like african football club. They are both armed like african armies but just cause he is armed there is rank to militaries right? MY dad is adamant reer mahad if they disappear we are finished as majerten waa ku dhaarta @Tucking_Fypo

my clan is noway near reer mahad status but we are not muse suldan either. their manpower is divided 100 way and their still on top, i am talking only 5 ways

 

[Saredo]

I can't live in Isaaq areas, I am not registered to Isaaq diya. I can live in Sool cause of 'darod diya' system. This just means our clan is armed so it needs 'insurance' or cover for our locals. I have 12.5 camels just in-case for 'diya' payments if one of our clans-men f*ck up(which is quite rare) beyond a few 'criminal' elements(some as long back as darawish era) but it's dealt with quickly and promptly as we don't jepordize our whole clan over a criminal kkkkkk like hawiye. Isim have long centuries of 'respect' so they are not going to jepordize that trust over 1 loser like cognissive or even me. It's what keeps the order. But I am armed, 5 different ways in Nugaal and Sool border with 5 different clans who are all armed(not civilians in city or midg0, Madow) those are given court access cause their not 'armed' clan. Well that's how I understood the culture from my father which is paramount to know these ppl before u even suggest anything. The gob are known as giving the gun justice and compete who is most merciful to the weak in our culture because u got nothing to prove after u achieved gob status(arms, isim, order, dhaqan, and diya) they know u can defend yourself then and your land your stakeholder basically.

But some unarmed clans are respected which is ironic my dad loves awrtable, arab salax, reer omar, etc because waa dad tarikh leh, sumcad, wax dhisa. So unarmed clans also seem to have this gob and gun process weird huh but its how they think the old ppl who influence their kids so u need to know. So not all unarmed clans are bad, it all DEPENDS

The poor girl just asked a simple question .

interesting read though.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The poor girl just asked a simple question .

interesting read though.

The problem is the question is fuelled due to ignorance, hence disinfect that brain cell is paramount first or your just hitting brick wall kkkk a-lot of somali problem is just ignorance and it causes fear and then the good old 'yuusan wax noqon' qofkasi armu ii tashda etc etc. I know u hate paragraphs but it can change your life or someone who knows at least ur empowered to not waste time and go succeed somewhere else

 

[Saredo]

The problem is the question is fuelled due to ignorance, hence disinfect that brain cell is paramount first or your just hitting brick wall kkkk a-lot of somali problem is just ignorance and it causes fear and then the good old 'yuusan wax noqon' qofkasi armu ii tashda etc etc. I know u hate paragraphs but it can change your life or someone who knows at least ur empowered to not waste time and go succeed somewhere else

I don’t hate paragraphs lool.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I don’t hate paragraphs lool.

U want more knowledge? I won't become siwaqroon or gahayle in erigavo, u can seek refuge with other clans but u will be disarmed and become civilian and have civilian court process for 'midg0, Madow, hindi, whites, etc' you are not 'armed' clan, their not changing the 'diya' system of centuries kkkk, why? cause it works.

U need to respect their turf, yes u can join them, but there is rules like 'disarm'. Bah dubays has never disarmed, we are gob, we have isim, soldiers 5 ways, hence that isn't an option and even for 'abaarso' I won't accept that and walk away cause it will come against my people tradition and history and the name aan ku fadhino. But I know a way into 'abaarso' by keeping our arms in 'sool' cause we 'harti' and same 'diya group' baanu lee nahay. I just need to convince them to go and join SL and from there I can pump my bah dubays strategically into 'falidhidhin' village and grow it over time but not 'completely' settle as I want us to have our 'armed' presence in the rural areas.

So I will balance it out of course. I won't fully settle like some clans did ever, the only benefit to settle is when you are not 'armed'. That make sense then, you got a better chance of good life thru the mercy of the court system depending how effective it is. Everyone copies 'reer mahad' cause their like the 'manchester united' in armed clans lol. My clan would be somewhere down the list how far down, I don't know.

 

[Saredo]

U want more knowledge? I won't become siwaqroon or gahayle in erigavo, u can seek refuge with other clans but u will be disarmed and become civilian and have civilian court process for 'midg0, Madow, hindi, whites, etc' you are not 'armed' clan, their not changing the 'diya' system of centuries kkkk, why? cause it works.

U need to respect their turf, yes u can join them, but there is rules like 'disarm'. Bah dubays has never disarmed, we are gob, we have isim, soldiers 5 ways, hence that isn't an option and even for 'abaarso' I won't accept that and walk away cause it will come against my people tradition and history and the name aan ku fadhino. But I know a way into 'abaarso' by keeping our arms in 'sool' cause we 'harti' and same 'diya group' baanu lee nahay. I just need to convince them to go and join SL and from there I can pump my bah dubays strategically into 'falidhidhin' village and grow it over time but not 'completely' settle as I want us to have our 'armed' presence in the rural areas.

So I will balance it out of course. I won't fully settle like some clans did ever, the only benefit to settle is when you are not 'armed'. That make sense then, you got a better chance of good life thru the mercy of the court system depending how effective it is.

haye. ii wad sheekada.

 

[DR OSMAN]

haye. ii wad sheekada.

Ok technically speaking if we are not from the same diya same group, there is no insurance on your armed clans and therefore there is only two options sis, stay the f*ck away from me and i stay away from u, xad noo dhiig or else 'one has to go'. There is no intermediatery or get along or any of that. If I kill him, there is no ISIM I can talk too as we don't have diya payments. Diya is by blood

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Saredo so yeah somalis love each other sister as long as u disarm and be civilian and their not prepared to do that, so somali nationalism requires 'they disarm' for anyone to actually believe it or else some other solution is needed rather then chasing something that is so tiring and impossible while the world passes us. Saredo u can come to garowe, bosaso, galkayo if ur not armed noone will touch u, cause your not the issue your just civilian, noone has fears of civilians we trying to work out justice system for them so they feel empowered in PL as Armed clans so we look like mature state. Infact u can go anywhere as long as your not ARMED SISTER cause isku diya manahin. So there is no hate between us really as civilians

 

[Zaara]

The problem is the question is fuelled due to ignorance, hence disinfect that brain cell is paramount first or your just hitting brick wall kkkk a-lot of somali problem is just ignorance and it causes fear and then the good old 'yuusan wax noqon' qofkasi armu ii tashda etc etc. I know u hate paragraphs but it can change your life or someone who knows at least ur empowered to not waste time and go succeed somewhere else

It was a genuine question lol it wasn’t “fulled by ignorance”. Proceed with your thoughts though

 

[DR OSMAN]

It was a genuine question lol it wasn’t “fulled by ignorance”. Proceed with your thoughts though

Reer Mahad are the most powerful clan in PL, don't listen to anyone else. They tanasuled like anglo saxons on power, u know why? their army is 100 different locations meaning 'awood' badan bay lee yihin sister markad 'aag badan fadhisid' means u can segment ur population and not be in one place. I only reach about 5 areas before I exhaust my man power. If u notice reer mahad have no power and let other omar rule. Thats why my dad loves them, he says WA KA GOBTA. WA LAYS YAQAN DEE IN PL. He just got angry islan bashir who told him to speak to reer keenadid in galkacyo and my dad said in the old days all the islan beelaha dhan bay uu dhaxayeen why u telling me to go to keenadiid. WABA KA SUMCAD WAYN TAHAY COGNISSIVE IYO BEESHISA XUN. My dad said adigo maxamud saleban dhan ba ku jecel why u telling me to speak to keenadiid my dad was shocked why he played clan politics. He said dhaqanki hore waa is badelay thats why

 

[DR OSMAN]

Sis when u tanasul u r the power ma garatay, its code word for i dont need to compete im secure, i want to EMPOWER U NOW. Thats what they do for omar mahmud, like garacad port, etc. Osman mahmoud is different story all together, but reer mahad kings of puntland in terms of REAL LEGITIMACY. BAH DIR ARE HISTORICAL ONLY NOW. ISLAN ISSE WA GOB GOB DHALAY. OUR LAST GOOD KING WAS BOQOR MAXAMUD HE WAS GOOD HE SAID I DONT NEED ANYTHING JUST EMPOWR MINORITIES SO WE DONT LOOK LIKE WERE OPPRESSORS

 

[shum33]

This is a random question but what kind of Dr are you?

He has a PHD in telling the truth


Yes ditore thank you for admitting the truth instead of arguing “hargeisa has not vaterrrr” like some of the misguided unenlighted retards here
Tell @Crow the truth,inshallah he will admit it too one day he reads more about somaliland than i do,if the theory of evolution is true,he will see the truth and evolve if not hey there are monkeys living side by side with humans, so we will still be cool

 

[PhySom]

@DrOsman bro take your anti mania meds. You are going through Ups and downs heavily.

 

[SilentE1001]

@Crow ITS A REPEAT OF 1960 FOR MY FATHER WHO RAN TO HAMAR FOR STUDIES, ITS POWERFUL INSTITUTION NIYAHOW. HAMAR BECAME LOVED CAUSE OF EDUCATION NOT TRADE AS EVERYONE HAD TRADE FROM OLD KINGDOM. BUT MY AWOOWE SAID TO LOOK AFTER OUR LAND, HE KEPT OUR MIYI BACKED UP AND ARMED IN CASE ONE DAY WE NEED LAND. CUZ U CANT BE GOB WITHOUT LAND, SOLDIERS, ISIMO, DIYA REGESTRITION ETC.

HARGEISA IS THE NEW 1960 RAT RACE FOR WESTERN SCHOLARSHIP. TRUST ME IF MY AWOOWE FORCED MY DAD TO GO TO HAMAR, I AM FORCING BAH DUBAYS NOW TO GET A HEAD START BEFORE THE RUSH OF SOMALIS COME.

IF U WANT HAMAR THATS FINE AS LONG AS WE TALK ABOUT WAR ECONOMY, LIKE ORGAN TRADE, PRIVATE MILITARY MERCENARIES, ETC. ITS A WA RZONE CUZ ITS UNDECIDED PLACE NIYAHOW

That's only a few universities that are good as they have international backing and accreditation.

1. Admas (Ethiopian)
2. Amoud
3. Burco University (Arab University Assoc)
4. University of Hargeisa (Kings College London)

Imma add Sheikh Technical Vetenary College as it's the best in the region for animal studies

 

[SilentE1001]

Wallahi markay ragga tashdan oo wax samayan, anigu ma xasido, it's because my dad taught me about our clan culture, gacan baan uu taaga waana is dhiiba si aan anigu 'faido' ka helo also. The worst thing u can do for yourself is to compete, fight, oppose. Because he continues to power on, the only one losing is you. Negiotation is paramount in that situation. They will probably have a 1000 elites with harvard degrees while PL/MOG are talking about constitution and they are not talking about constitution lets be real, they just trying to add their 'clan agendas' cause nothing they say is based on the scientific method and provable beyond 'words'.

This is going to be a 'long game' of cat n mouse. I suggest in the 'mean time' we access abaarso and establish a good base while the cat n mouse game continues in Somalia. I wouldn't be 'abusive' as much as I then see at least they are doing 'something' useful not wasting all their time into Somalia. I remember the despair in Hamar in 99, wallahi the only one who loses by focusing his energy and time there is YOU. That's why the west pulled out after 91, sxb you losing time/resources/manpower/ on a place that isn't returning a benefit. U could've spent that somewhere else, the longer u remain with them, u just continue in the losses for yourself as the world 'flies by' you.

Now let's appreciate Somaliland for once, rather then hate them. U think I hate clans don't u? I hate clans because I refuse to sit there in some bibito and fly on my face arguing with u for another 30 years and going back and forth. I have to get up like my ancestor did and relocate from bari to start a new life in nugaal. I am preparing to relocate all our clans-men who are split 5 ways into falidhidin village in sool if Sool signs a deal with SL. It will become a big district and therefore I will get at least 2 mps and more then adhicadeeye and faqishini. I already have 2 in garowe and that's only 'reer magaal' and few nomads in the region. If we come together into falidhidin, I will get 2 mps in SL, well as long as it's more then Faqishini because I live 5 ways and armed, does he?

So lets sing somaliland song, now I am happy, i see hope for bah dubays

Somaliland doesn't do elections by clans each district has an MP, and the population of that district votes for that MP.

So most likely the people vote tribally.

Somaliland currently undergoing reform when the 3 party system goes the smaller clans may start winning big