Somaliland Real Yearly Budget Is $21-27 Million

[DR OSMAN]

I already worked out their 'soldier capacity' is 4000-4500(using their base locations and quantity size and multiplying it by $70 dollar salary per soldier) This is the methodology I used, however SL govt provides no methodology(made up guesses) to they're statistics, so I hope you consider mine more accurate and reliable

Go to page 11 where it covers security budget allocation percentage as 35%

https://www.somaliland.com/wp-conte...get-brief-2020-final-ISIR-Somaliland.com_.pdf

This is the methodology I use to work out their full budget.

If military budget is 3 million for 4000-4500 soldiers(considering they only have 3 bases in burco, hargeisa, erigavo). Berbera/Awdal seem to small for they're own base and must be assigned to Hargeisa. Anyways we know it's 3 million a year their soldiers, if their police force is 20% of army financial allocation, then we know their police force is budget of 600k. How many police can 600k bank roll in a year? let's assume $100 per office x 12 months = 1200. That's 500 man police force in all of Somaliland.

Anyways let's get back to the interesting conclusion I reached for a 21 million budget for Somaliland. If we know 3 million is allocated to the army and 600k is allocated to police and assume the rest is 600k also(if u work out the percentage and add it up it's around 25% of security budget).

We know their totally yearly security budget is 3 million x 600k for police, 600k for other security cost(custodial, guards, etc).

That is a whopping total 4.2 million a year for Somaliland security costs out of they're budget. While we assume the security budget is 35% of the over-all budget. Then we know their over-all yearly budget is 4.2 million x 65% is 27 million yearly budget.

I know you guys who hate maths but I had to demonstrate the 'methodology' or else you would assume I am making 'guesses' here like the Somaliland(extremely bullshit forecast budget). Why do they never 'close they're budget'? you know why because it will show it was only $25-27 million. If you go to page 7 you will see 80% of that is from 'berbera port'. 80% of their custom taxes is from 'ogaden livestock'.

We can reduce Somaliland to a budget that is 80% missing if we relocate those 'ogaden camel herders'. They will be down to a budget of 8 million only being able to 'cover' security forces and ONE MINISTRY kkkkkk.


Puntland needs more data and statistics and ways we can hurt PL enemy not 'media yelling' between leaders. I can guarantee to bring SL to it's knees, if you establish strong ties with DDSI and cut deals over they're livestock exports thru Garacad Port. Somaliland will no longer be functioning administration in Somaliland. It's not 'self reliant' economy, it's mostly 'diaspora' hotels not 'economical infrastructure', they will be similar to Galmudug.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I don't entertain @Samaalism fantasy and numbers without seeing a firm methodology. Nigga your 1000 soldiers as Habar awal, your port is 80% revenue from DDSI livestock, you will be down to 8 million a year budget that will cover your security costs only and one ministry salary. You should behave when your whole government is funded by Darodism.

As @Karim teach, Darodism works for all. It's quantifiable when u take the data and calculate that Isaaq will shrink down to Galmudug and will need to come under the SFG.

 

[Odkac WRLD]

Lol MJ send a shit ton of $$$ back home
I think Puntland is on its way to becoming the wealthiest Somali state because the diaspora MJs ik are all doing well professionally and have very strong ties to and love for puntland

 

[DR OSMAN]

Lol MJ send a shit ton of $$$ back home
I think Puntland is on its way to becoming the wealthiest Somali state because the diaspora MJs ik are all doing well professionally and have very strong ties to and love for puntland

Is that all you have? what about majerten? I am providing PL policy advice using data and statistic that streghten ties with DDSI, this will mean more 'economic activity' plus bringing SL administration to it's knees who will be like GM who is struggling to fund it's own cabinet let alone workers lol.

This is wise policy by PL to streghten ties between PL/DDSI, this will ensure no more interference in Sool and Dhulbahante will no longer have a pay check kkkkk, sacad muse ayaaba isku dili doono the meager 5 million budget a year.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Muhammad Bire this is the firm look I give Id33r and Dirs and Hawiyes at the 3:42 mark


Once you know the statistics of your military bases and economic capacity in the nation, you don't need to be friendly with anyone, just a firm hard look to remind 'cadowga' to get in line, it's in his own interest

 

[Karim]

@DR OSMAN I don't like to discuss hypothetical situations. We need a lot more than fictional fairytales written on a Forum. Campaign and raise funds for Garacad instead of mumbling horse shit on Somali Forums. Actions speak louder than words Ugaas.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@DR OSMAN I don't like to discuss hypothetical situations. We need a lot more than fictional fairytales written on a Forum. Campaign and raise funds for Garacad instead of mumbling horse shit on Somali Forums. Actions speak louder than words Ugaas.

Maths and Data is horse-shit now? so how do u wanna operate a society thru 'opinions' try winning investors in garacad without showing maths and statistics, u will be sitting there decades sxb. Information age ayaa lagu jira, if u don't have 'data', no-one is going to listen to your opinion on garacad.



Kulaha maths and statistics is horse shit, if white people see what I just worked out using their own data, they would look at you and say what CENTURY do u live in sir? maybe the century of ' fkd' and we know what that financially got u. Somaliland 300 million budget, only person who will buy that is someone who doesn't understand science like u maybe, wax kasto lagu soo qoro maba 'hisaabin kartid' can u?

 

[DR OSMAN]

This isn't even 'advanced' high school maths, this is basic maths kids are taught. You should know how to use the operators addition, division, multiplication, substraction on anything that is sum, figure, data. Remember that is what they taught u for, so u know how to use it in real life? wallahi wa yaab have half these niggas even passed high school maths of calculus?

That is all maths is those operators and using it on 'angles, circles, distance, width' and it's also used on BUDGETS or anything where a FIGURE AND SUM IS PROVIDED

 

[Karim]

Maths and Data is horse-shit now? so how do u wanna operate a society thru 'opinions' try winning investors in garacad without showing maths and statistics, u will be sitting there decades sxb. Information age ayaa lagu jira, if u don't have 'data', no-one is going to listen to your opinion on garacad.



Kulaha maths and statistics is horse shit, if white people see what I just worked out using their own data, they would look at you and say what CENTURY do u live in sir? maybe the century of ' fkd' and we know what that financially got u. Somaliland 300 million budget, only person who will buy that is someone who doesn't understand science like u maybe, wax kasto lagu soo qoro maba 'hisaabin kartid' can u?

It's not me who came up with the idea of bankrupting Berbera and taking all of its DDSI customers to Puntland ports.
We need investment and strong financial contribution from Puntland diasporas in order to fulfill our ambitions of building infrastructure that is impressive for its scale and technology aimed at attracting Ethiopia's huge market and to serve the large cargo volumes flowing through the region.

All I said to you was raise funds and campaign relentlessly in order to flip the coin in our favour. My family has donated undisclosed amount of money to Garacad port and it would've been better if Puntites work their asses off and contribute instead of mumbling bs on social media.

 

[DR OSMAN]

It's not me who came up with the idea of bankrupting Berbera and taking all of its DDSI customers to Puntland ports.
We need investment and strong financial contribution from Puntland diasporas in order to fulfill our ambitions of building infrastructure that is impressive for its scale and technology aimed at attracting Ethiopia's huge market and to serve the large cargo volumes flowing through the region.

All I said to you was raise funds and campaign relentlessly in order to flip the coin in our favour. My family has donated undisclosed amount of money to Garacad port and it would've been better if Puntites work their asses off and contribute instead of mumbling bs on social media.

Horta where is the paper work sxb, u want people to build a port with no 'business plan'. Show us what the estimated cargo is for the port in the region, how many areas will it service, in what sort of intervals(monthy, quarterly, yearly), what are maintenance cost over 5 year period, what are the estimated puntland taxes'. Sxb u guys in garacad don't even have timtable and dates and estimated completion of all 'tasks'. Where is your god dammit business plan and implementation plan? where is your god damn data and statistics and political agreements with 'markets'? WARYAA YAAD NA MOODAY, NO-ONE DUMPS THEIR HARD WORKED MONEY BECAUSE OF QABIL LOVE.

How many investors are already involved? what will the 'shareholder' expect monthly, quarterly, yearly? if u want investors prove to me the 100k I dump into your 'garacad port account' and what my allocated shares of the port is. You can't just come to me with guesses of cargo, how do I know DDSI is coming to Garacad where is the political agreement between PL/DDSI for this? sxb aduunka mant la joggo wallahi lama joggo 'kalay invest garey' waxaa la jogga 'risk mindset' no-one wants to burn money

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Karim beesha jeceelkeeda ayaa lafaha ka galay not the actual financial returns, wallahi iska jir lacagta yaysan ka gubmin. DDSI 'livestock' trade and Consumables market in Hargeisa is roughly only 20 million a year while it's 'seasonal' not monthly and only happens in Hajj time.

U want us to invest a billion in a port for market space that is roughly 20 million a year in tax returns and you will probably have 1000 investors(each needing to contribute a million). What sort of fool do you think people are waryaa? qabiil jecelkaga yaysan ragga kugu ceebaynin. When oil cargo comes, then come to speak to us waryaa, but I wish the omar mahmoud the best in this unrealistic project, ma xasidayo lakin wax aan ku darsanayo ma jire while giving my 'bah dubays stoic look' and going back to garowe

 

[DR OSMAN]

If u let @Crow a real nigga handle the 'garacad' port and allow for 'hamar exports' and he knows wat I mean. I will call all bah dubays to throw millions into 'shares' we will make multi millions. That shit will sell for millions packaged and processed and stamped Hawiyenimo. That money then can be re-used to inject capital into garacad/garowe kids to become business people or start up a trade company or if they have skills hire them for services.

Hawiye wud have left a 'lasting' legacy for once in history in Somalia that is beneficial to Somalis not destruction. But no-one likes the DR stoic policies, I am only doing it so your kids can have businesses, jobs, and pay taxes to their govt who can provide them services.

Till your ready to be real nigga and talk real business commodities that are worth something overseas 'bah dubays has no choice but to remain stoic'

 

[Karim]

Horta where is the paper work sxb, u want people to build a port with no 'business plan'. Show us what the estimated cargo is for the port in the region, how many areas will it service, in what sort of intervals(monthy, quarterly, yearly), what are maintenance cost over 5 year period, what are the estimated puntland taxes'. Sxb u guys in garacad don't even have timtable and dates and estimated completion of all 'tasks'. Where is your god dammit business plan and implementation plan? where is your god damn data and statistics and political agreements with 'markets'? WARYAA YAAD NA MOODAY, NO-ONE DUMPS THEIR HARD WORKED MONEY BECAUSE OF QABIL LOVE.

How many investors are already involved? what will the 'shareholder' expect monthly, quarterly, yearly? if u want investors prove to me the 100k I dump into your 'garacad port account' and what my allocated shares of the port is. You can't just come to me with guesses of cargo, how do I know DDSI is coming to Garacad where is the political agreement between PL/DDSI for this? sxb aduunka mant la joggo wallahi lama joggo 'kalay invest garey' waxaa la jogga 'risk mindset' no-one wants to burn money

Just listen to What Islaan Bashir Islaan Abdille said about Garacad. We're on our own. Gaas said During the unveiling ceremony that the construction of the port would be undertaken with funds raised by local business communities and urged diaspora Puntites to immensely contribute.

We're not waiting for some western or Asian company to invest in our port and build it for us. We'll do it ourselves and make history.

Your argument would've been valid if we were seeking foreign companies to Kickstart the project and build it.

 

[DR OSMAN]

I see the Somalilander niggas are ducking this when we do some fact-checking, you don't like your budgets fact-checked do u? you like that 'we going to get recognized sheet' game for 30 years. If your security budget is 70 million dollars, do u know how many soldiers that means per $70 dollar salaries? that's one million security forces(police and army), where in the hell do u have 1 million soldiers and police forces and show me the 'facility' their housed in? sxb you have small stations dotted around SL and medium station in hargeisa, your police force is 500 around the whole region and the budget is 600k a year. The most accurate way to know your soldiers is by 'bases and outpost' and for your police how many station as we know how many can work in such station.

We can then calculate one person salary and multiply it by the total sum of officers in the base or station. Nigga your administration is fudging everything in it's statistics when they don't realized an audit can 'easily' expose this and humiliate them as corrupt govt who doesn't even provide real budgets, I urge Puntland never to do this as it means your governance is shit and unreliable and anyone can 'write' whatever they want

 

[DR OSMAN]

Wallahi I am like this looking at Somaliland as I sit there in my 'cafe' and watching these niggas who can not do 'basic calculations' and say war 'meesha dhan 27 million sanadki iyo 20 million 'xoolo darod' ayaa ku masrufo, if they left, u wud be down to 7 million budgets becauses that's all Isaaq nigga contributes to you.

My eyez would glaze over as these Isaaq niggas slam my car and yell FAQESH I be like the next DABCASAR but Majerten version. Darod waa kala daran yihin uun as the Isaaq are aware there is no good among us when it comes to ensuring somalis abide by darodism idealogy kkkk

 

[DR OSMAN]

@CirJiid I am impressed by HJ it can Match HA. U have 6-4-4 combo in all out war. I wasn't aware you had 'good portion in DDSI'. 14K is your maximum output in a war. In peace-time it's 7k but cut 30% since DDSI isn't apart of SL. I say 30% because when u look at their peace-time numbers it's about 4000-5000 so in war-time it's 8-10k.

We know your majority soldiers are in SL but as per 91 document we know ur full output is 14k, so the extra 4k is coming from DDSI. HY is your largest clan their estimated at 6k this isn't including 'sanaag' portion which isn't large but below 500 since it lacks a 'base' but only an 'outpost'. So now you know your real Isaaq unity soldier crap.

Harti Waqoyi is 7k in full out Maximum war against Isaaq(including DDSI component). 5k of that is Dhulos and 2k Warsangeli. It changes if Majerten 'steps in' though full out war for us is 20k cause in peace-time it's 10k. 4 bases in Mudug, 1 in Garowe, 2 for Bosaso/Qardho. This isn't including Wardheer where we can secure another 1k. Harti combined is 20k Majerten, Harti Waqoyi 7k.

Nearly 30k. No need to include JL which is another 500-1000 easy. We can handle all Hawiye on our own wallahi which is 22k at full out maximum war. Murusade-Hawadle all that shit can be handled by Marehan. We don't even need the 50k army of Ogaden. But if u combine as Isaaq/Hawiye 22k plus 14k we will need Ogaden

 

[DR OSMAN]

Bari has to be looked into PMPF is 1000 easy. Qardho is 1000 easy. PSF is 1000(but not all bari). So I would say 2000 plus 500 for the rest of Hartis there in peace time. Niggas wallahi can pack in 2500 for us in peace time or 3000. Mudug 4000, Wardheer maybe 1000, Nugaal my area 1000. 9000 is our number of soldiers in normal peace time or 10000 give or take. We packing 20k wallahi baan ku dhaartay in full out war like 91

 

[Addislad]

I already worked out their 'soldier capacity' is 4000-4500(using their base locations and quantity size and multiplying it by $70 dollar salary per soldier) This is the methodology I used, however SL govt provides no methodology(made up guesses) to they're statistics, so I hope you consider mine more accurate and reliable

Go to page 11 where it covers security budget allocation percentage as 35%

https://www.somaliland.com/wp-conte...get-brief-2020-final-ISIR-Somaliland.com_.pdf

This is the methodology I use to work out their full budget.

If military budget is 3 million for 4000-4500 soldiers(considering they only have 3 bases in burco, hargeisa, erigavo). Berbera/Awdal seem to small for they're own base and must be assigned to Hargeisa. Anyways we know it's 3 million a year their soldiers, if their police force is 20% of army financial allocation, then we know their police force is budget of 600k. How many police can 600k bank roll in a year? let's assume $100 per office x 12 months = 1200. That's 500 man police force in all of Somaliland.

Anyways let's get back to the interesting conclusion I reached for a 21 million budget for Somaliland. If we know 3 million is allocated to the army and 600k is allocated to police and assume the rest is 600k also(if u work out the percentage and add it up it's around 25% of security budget).

We know their totally yearly security budget is 3 million x 600k for police, 600k for other security cost(custodial, guards, etc).

That is a whopping total 4.2 million a year for Somaliland security costs out of they're budget. While we assume the security budget is 35% of the over-all budget. Then we know their over-all yearly budget is 4.2 million x 65% is 27 million yearly budget.

I know you guys who hate maths but I had to demonstrate the 'methodology' or else you would assume I am making 'guesses' here like the Somaliland(extremely bullshit forecast budget). Why do they never 'close they're budget'? you know why because it will show it was only $25-27 million. If you go to page 7 you will see 80% of that is from 'berbera port'. 80% of their custom taxes is from 'ogaden livestock'.

We can reduce Somaliland to a budget that is 80% missing if we relocate those 'ogaden camel herders'. They will be down to a budget of 8 million only being able to 'cover' security forces and ONE MINISTRY kkkkkk.


Puntland needs more data and statistics and ways we can hurt PL enemy not 'media yelling' between leaders. I can guarantee to bring SL to it's knees, if you establish strong ties with DDSI and cut deals over they're livestock exports thru Garacad Port. Somaliland will no longer be functioning administration in Somaliland. It's not 'self reliant' economy, it's mostly 'diaspora' hotels not 'economical infrastructure', they will be similar to Galmudug.

If that is the case why does somaliland give you a good beating everytime there are clashes with puntland

 

[Noobmaster699]

Look at this typical lander hater, let’s guess where he’s from hmm oh Osman Mohammed. These people live and breath for the downfall of Isaaqs. Get out of here with your obsession

 

[Younes Osman]

Look at this typical lander hater, let’s guess where he’s from hmm oh Osman Mohammed. These people live and breath for the downfall of Isaaqs. Get out of here with your obsession

"eydoor, why do you have 4 wives ? "
"Eydoor, how many camels do you own ?"
"Eydoor ,do you own dabahshil ?"