Somaliland Global Punishment

[DR OSMAN]

SAAMAYNTA DAGAALKA LAASCAANOOD KU YEESHAY SIYAASADDA ARRIMMAHA DIBEDDA MARAYKANKA​

Maamulka Madaxweyne Joe Biden wuu ka noqday iskaashi amni oo Somaliland Maraykanku la yeelan lahaa oo Muuse Biixi iyo Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh ay maleegeen lidna ku ah qarannimada Soomaaliya.

Muqdisho (Wararka PP) — Dagaalka Laascaanood wuxuu billowday 6/2/2023. Wuxuu socdaa laba bilood. Ka sokow saamaynta dhaqaale uu abuuray dagaalku kaddib markii isu socodkii Sool iyo gobollada kale ee waqooyiga uu istaagay, dagaalku wuxuu kale oo saameeyay siyaasaddii arrimmaha dibedda ee dalka

Maraykanka. Bishii Diseembar ee 2022kii dowladda Maraykanku waxay ku dhaqaaqday hirgelinta hindise sharci noqday oo loo yiqiin Iskaashiga Amni ee Somaliland (Somaliland Security Partnership) kaas oo uu Maraykanku ku doonayay inuu iskaashi amni kula yeesho maamulka goosashada doonaya oo aan aqoonsanayn qarannimada Soomaalida.

Dowladda Federalka ee Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh Maxamuud hoggaamiyo ayaa hindisahaas ku taageertay Maraykanka. Madaxwene Xasan wuxuu u hiilliyay Somaliland isagoo ka soo horjeestay xaqa metelaadda heer federaal ee Puntland oo qaar ka mid ah dhulka dastuur ah uga tirsan Puntland ku jira gacanta Somaliland.

Dagaalka ka dhacay Laascaanood ayaa gebi ahaanba ku qasbay Maraykanka inuu ka noqdo Somaliland Security Partnership. Tallaabadan waxaa ku xigay baaqii Wasaaradda Arrimmaha Dibedda ee Maraykankau ugu baaqday Somaliland inay ciidammadeeda kala baxdo duleedka Laascaanood.
Dagaalka Laascaanood wuxuu bannaanka soo dhigay sida dowladda federaalku u jebisay dastuurka dalka kaddib markii ay oggolaatay in dal kale uu iskaashi amni la yeesho qeyb ka mid ah Soomaaliya oo diiddan qarannimada Soomaaliya.

Saamaynta kale oo uu dagaalku yeeshay waa in Somaliland ay gebi ahaanba lumisay fursaddii ay hore u haysatay oo ahayd in maadaamaa ay Laascaanood maamulaysay inay ku hadli kartay magaca waqooyiga marka wadahadallada Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland ay socdaan. Tan kale, maamulka Somaliland wuxuu iibin kari waayay sheekada in ay argagixiso ku sugan tahay Laascaaanood. Duqeyntii ciidanka Somaliland u geysteen Laascaanood ayaa siyaasad ahaan go’doomisay Muuse Biixi oo dhowaan sheegay in kala goynta Soomaaliya uu xalku yahay, qirtayna in dagaalku ku saabsan yahay xuduudihii maxmiyaddii Soomaalida ee Biritishka. Dagaalka Laascaanood wuu ka saameyn-weyn yahay dhanka siyaasadda dagaalkii qabqablayaashii Muqdisho taliskoodii lagu soo afjaray 2006.

Bishan Abriil 7deedii dowladda Maraykanku waxay soo saartay Amar Fulin Ah ( Executive Order) oo Soomaaliya ku tilmaamay dal halis ku ah siyaasadda arrimmaha dibedda iyo danaha Maraykanka. Isburinta siyaasadda Maraykanku waxay dhaawac u geysatay maamulka Madaxweyne Joe Biden oo ugu dambayntii maamulkiisu laalay iskaashi amni uu xisbiga Jamhuurigu soo jeediyay in maamulka Somaliland lala yeesho, go’aankaas oo xitaa ceeb u keenay Madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh oo jebiyay dhaarta uu ku dhaartay inuu dhowrayo qarannimada Soomaaliya.

Dowladda federaalka Soomaaliya waxay adeegsatay laba siyaasadood oo iska hor imanaya: waxay taageertay Baaqii Laascaanood uguna baaqday maamulka Somaliland inuu dhowro mabda’a in maamul ku dhisan yahay oggolaansho (consent), kaddibna waxay magacawday ergey qaabbilsan wadahadallada Soomaaliya iyo Somaliland. “Kaalinta dowladda federaalka iyo kooxda Damuljadiid waa isku dir. Muqdisho ma sii ahaan karto meel talo Soomaaliyeed lagu hayo” ayuu yiri gorfeeye siyaasadeed oo Muqdisho ku sugan.

 

[DR OSMAN]

The SFG is doing dangerous politics, whose intention is to see what side wins. It reminds me of the idiotic isimo of hawiye during the 91 warlord era saying 'ali gar leh, caydid gar leh' meaning ali mahdi and aideed are both right, and this led to both fighting up untill 2006 untill PL put an end to it thru the SFG. Now its ssc gar leh, sl gar leh history.

These mad hawiye must be kept from power who never learn from history and repeat it. Pls hawadle @The Midlands stop your cousins in hamar who don't store history and simply repeat it. Hal meel raca not two sides cuz that is more dangerous as both will not stop the fight.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Either SSC has the same rights to decide it's aspiration and future or it doesn't. It's a simple equation. If SL can decide its aspiration and future, why can't SSC? SL argues they separate from Somalia and SFG to respect that, but SL won't respect if Garhajis-SSC-Awdal decide to separate. This level of hypocrisy by the SFG will expose they have ulterior motives

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

Either SSC has the same rights to decide it's aspiration and future or it doesn't. It's a simple equation. If SL can decide its aspiration and future, why can't SSC? SL argues they separate from Somalia and SFG to respect that, but SL won't respect if Garhajis-SSC-Awdal decide to separate. This level of hypocrisy by the SFG will expose they have ulterior motives

Remove Garxajis from the equation they're the core of Landernimo

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Tropical Breeze the SFG is wedging it's bets both way following in the spirit of hawiye isimo 'ali gar leh, aideed gar leh' this led to hags fighting from 91 up untill 2006 untill the SFG arrived. Is this their intention for SSC/SL that both sides war for so long and eventually weaken both sides thru exhaustion/stalemate and swallow up SL/SSC together like the SFG did to warlords? @Dharbash @Caaro

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

@Tropical Breeze the SFG is wedging it's bets both way following in the spirit of hawiye isimo 'ali gar leh, aideed gar leh' this led to hags fighting from 91 up untill 2006 untill the SFG arrived. Is this their intention for SSC/SL that both sides war for so long and eventually weaken both sides and swallow up SL/SSC together like the SFG did to warlords? @Dharbash @Caaro

As long as PL exists in the picture that won't happen, inter Hawiye wars were for the seat of power SSC vs SL aren't the same tribe. Trust me if Garxajis were in power they'd be the 1st to send troops to Laascaanood as for FGS they're a non-factor in this all. They have their hands full in konfuria , the FGS even during Farmaajo were konfur first.

 

[DR OSMAN]

As long as PL exists in the picture that won't happen, inter Hawiye wars were for the seat of power SSC vs SL aren't the same tribe. Trust me if Garxajis were in power they'd be the 1st to send troops to Laascaanood as for FGS they're a non-factor in this all. They have their hands full in konfuria , the FGS even during Farmaajo were konfur first.

I think PL wud accept a HJ/HY/Warsan/Dhulos Eastern Somaliland as long the upper-senate porportions isn't disturbed, we won't accept two states getting 8 Senators each and 16 in upper house. If they divide their northern section 11 senators between themselves east/west, I don't see a problem. Plus it's more realistic having the eastern clans focus on themselves not worry about distant awdal n hargeisa.

Same with GM/HS shud be reduced to 11 not 16 when their territories n population combined is even smaller then Majerteniya portion of PL.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

I think PL wud accept a HJ/HY/Warsan/Dhulos Eastern Somaliland as long the upper-senate porportions isn't disturbed, we won't accept two states getting 8 Senators each and 16 in upper house. If they divide their northern section 11 senators between themselves east/west, I don't see a problem. Plus it's more realistic having the eastern clans focus on themselves not worry about distant awdal n hargeisa.

Same with GM/HS shud be reduced to 11 not 16 when their territories n population combined is even smaller then Majerteniya portion of PL.

If anything its gonna be a Dhulbahante-Warsangeli state

 

[DR OSMAN]

If anything its gonna be a Dhulbahante-Warsangeli state

Dir Waqoyi/Harti waqoyi is possible also and following in the clan federalism principle. And screw the 2 state principle, I supported it so their is rule of law but when I saw an exception given to GM 1.5 states, then why stop there with exceptions, why not give exceptions nation wide where it makes clan sense. Maybe we should use 'territory size' minimum rather then fake 18 states. Harti Waqoyi land is larger then GM or SW yet they allowed to exist due to silly 18 states.

War dhulka cabirkisa is the only 'fact' we have no census. The dhul must be used and not 18 states.

 

[bidenkulaha]

Dr you are about to have a heart attack in May.

11 seats for SL, PL, GM, HS, KG, JL and Banadir, this was agreed in Baydhabo.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@The Midlands @Tropical Breeze GM/HS territory size from galkayo to mogadishu is well known fact. Galkayo to Hamar is 750 km on the road, Bosaso to Galkacyo is 750 km. Why is it GM/HS get two states and 16 senators 4 the same land-mass as bosaso to galkacyo who gets 11?

Wallahi isla hisabtan dhab ah ma dhicin weli. Infact we only get 11 which we share with all harti while dir waqoyi keep their 11 portion to themselves for a tiny land mass and refuse to share with harti waqoyi they claim is apart of them. Ya aniga iga dhiga technical team of PL. If harti waqoyi is apart of SL, then the 11 senators of SL shud be shared 5 ways among themselves but we see hypocrisy always from hag n snm.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Dr you are about to have a heart attack in May.

11 seats for SL, PL, GM, HS, KG, JL and Banadir, this was agreed in Baydhabo.

Banadir will not be capital and region, u must choose 1 or the other not think anyone will accept u be a qabil and casimad. Banadir will be like D.C get nothing and be district capital(DC meaning), maqaamo degmo baad lee dahay, and u will not even be given local power iska daa federal.

 

[bidenkulaha]

Banadir will not be capital and region, u must choose 1 or the other not think anyone will accept u be a qabil and casimad. Banadir will be like D.C get nothing and be district capital(DC meaning)

This was what was agreed on by the NCC.

Banadir has 7 lower seats. It’ll now have 11 senate seats, Deni is coming to the next NCC. I warn you before your heart stops!

Don’t shoot the messenger!

 

[DR OSMAN]

This was what was agreed on by the NCC.

Banadir has 7 lower seats. It’ll now have 11 senate seats, Deni is coming to the next NCC. I warn you before your heart stops!

Don’t shoot the messenger!

U dummy im not even gonna waste my time with u becuz your legacy clan is @The Midlands the lower house is 4.5 and only clan not district, its not a democracy dummy and when it does become district based. MOG will be discussed then only as a 'district' not 'gobol' and washington D.C level of representation will be given like it's given to other districts.

There is no census in somalia, the only mechanism is land size which is a fact. I can travel from bosaso to galkayo n measure distance and its 750 km, I can travel from galkayo to mogadishu and it's 750 km.

This is the same land size HS/GM vs Majerteniya, why u get 16 senators? just becuz your two states is nonsense, your share of senate shud be 11 like PL and North must give dhulos/warsan their share since they claim it's their region not come to PL and tribalize the senate when the senate isn't the lower house.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@bidenkulaha i hope your not sent to represent hag on technical team, PL will humiliate u in front of the International community, send ur boy @The Midlands who created ur irir and leaves ur legacy, ur clan never leaves u a legacy, even on the internet hiiraanonline is your legacy keeping up the hawiye warfront online while your media dies or flip flop leaving no legacy and ur descendaants will go to hiiraan to get information like they did to use IRIR to create 4.5 n giving 50% to dir/hawiye, if that legacy wasnt there u wud be ruined by us. But as usual u didnt consult hawadle how to make it constitutional and strategies so it will be cancelled for district sharing when democracy comes. U need hawadle to find a strategy so mogadishu doesnt become a district status similar to D.C

 

[Prince of HS]

@bidenkulaha i hope your not sent to represent hag on technical team, PL will humiliate u in front of the International community, send ur boy @The Midlands who created ur irir and leaves ur legacy, ur clan never leaves u a legacy, even on the internet hiiraanonline is your legacy keeping up the hawiye warfront online while your media dies or flip flop leaving no legacy and ur descendaants will go to hiiraan to get information like they did to use IRIR

Hirshabelle, Galmudug and Banadir had combined population of 3.5 million in 2014 whilst PL + JL had roughly 2.5 million. Hawiye greatly outnumbers Darood in Somalia sxb. You need to come to terms with this

 

[DR OSMAN]

Hirshabelle, Galmudug and Banadir had combined population of 3.5 million in 2014 whilst PL + JL had roughly 2.5 million. Hawiye greatly outnumbers Darood in Somalia sxb. You need to come to terms with this

Claiming numbers and estimates when facts are needed is pointless. No census bro, it will be dismissed and just repeating what numbers u wish will show the world your not a serious partner. Get hawadle to face PL as they did in the 60s with IRIR, leaving u a legacy to build up from in 2000 carta and create a parliament axis of dir/hawiye in lower house, but it's not constitutional becuz hawadle wasn't consulted on strategy loooooooool.

When it becomes district powersharing. Mogadishu will be the same quota as all districts untill a census is done, unless hawadle comes up with his brilliance to counter PL like they did in the 60s @The Midlands we will steal hawadle to PL to brain drain u guys.

 

[DR OSMAN]

@Prince of HS u r not majerteniya 'aag' malihid u have pockets yes but not 'aag' or 'zone'. Your south central somalia 30% is bantu any census figure will discount that for HAG unless u add clan identification in the census process. It's well known bantu are 15% national population and that 15% is 90% in the south. It will effect JL/SW/HS/Hamar the most not GM. Plus the digil iyo mirifle is another big bloc in the south.

 

[Prince of HS]

Claiming numbers and estimates when facts are needed is pointless. No census bro, it will be dismissed and just repeating what numbers u wish will show the world your not a serious partner. Get hawadle to face PL as they did in the 60s with IRIR, leaving u a legacy to build up from in 2000 carta and create a parliament axis of dir/hawiye in lower house, but it's not constitutional becuz hawadle wasn't consulted on strategy loooooooool.

When it becomes district powersharing. Mogadishu will be the same quota as all districts untill a census is done, unless hawadle comes up with his brilliance to counter PL like they did in the 60s @The Midlands we will steal hawadle to PL to brain drain u guys.

I’m not claiming anything. This is backed by UN. Face it sxb you simply don’t have the numbers

https://somalia.unfpa.org/sites/default/files/pub-pdf/Population-Estimation-Survey-of-Somalia-PESS-2013-2014.pdf

 

[DR OSMAN]

I’m not claiming anything. This is backed by UN. Face it sxb you simply don’t have the numbers

https://somalia.unfpa.org/sites/default/files/pub-pdf/Population-Estimation-Survey-of-Somalia-PESS-2013-2014.pdf

UN didn't do census and it wasn't presented to be signed by anyone but hamar. Estimates need water wells, dams, electricity, village counts measured not just writing any figure u want in a spreadsheet. Its well known 80% of the nation lives outside major settlements or urban and 80% of economy is livestock showing a correlation where the nomads are is where the largest segment is and nomads need big land .