Somaliland’s Minister of Interior chased from Saylac town

[Throughbred]

Lately been hearing something called Xeer Ciise and somaliland is against it .

Is there a beef between Ciise and Gadabursi over the ownership of the town ?

 

[cunug3aad]

Are they stoning him ? Is he alkolisto or something

 

[Throughbred]

Are they stoning him ? Is he alkolisto or something

Gun shots and he is a minister from "somaliland" enclave
I think natives don't want him in the town.

 

[Aaqil]

Lately been hearing something called Xeer Ciise and somaliland is against it .

Is there a beef between Ciise and Gadabursi over the ownership of the town ?

There's nothing in that vid that suggests the minister was "chased" out from Saylac a city predominantly inhabited by Samaroon who refused the so called "Xeer-Ciise" book ceremony to be held there without being consulted first.

One fact everyone here should Know about reer Ciise is that they're 80% nomads who move around and wander in the dessert hence why they don't have any major settlement or village and are inconstant grazing land dispute with Canfar who are also 80% nomads.

 

[Jaffar]

Zeila is now predomonantly a gadabuursi town they are the majoroty especially the mahammed case. Subclan the amount of hate the ciise have now for this sub clan. And they are the clan intermarry the most with ciise , geele abtis are also mahammed case . This subclan light skinMohammed way xalalaysten seylac the habar awal minister is doing their work for them
He is supporting their stance i don’t see how ciise can challenge them now. The mayor deputy mayor taliahah booliska are all gadabuursi and the Somaliland supreme general in the western part of Somaliland is also gadabuursi. Any sort of confrontation I believe the remaining ciise community will be driven beyond lowyecade and driven into jabuuti, ciise have them selves to blame in the 1950s they were majority there I seen british archives stars but they alll moved to jabuuti. All 13 mps for awdal are gadabuursi not a single ciise , during siilaanyo theee was one ciise not now not any more

I only see in the video stones iyo caws

 

[Aaqil]

I believe the remaining ciise community will be driven beyond lowyecade and driven into jabuuti, ciise have them selves to blame in the 1950s they were majority there I seen british archives stars but they alll moved to jabuuti

Even back then they were nomads and nothing have changed in their way of living since then hence why Dir Dhabe city is predominantly Oromo now

 

[Throughbred]

Does any one know what's on this Xeer Ciise book .

 

[Aaqil]

Does any one know what's on this Xeer Ciise book .

I don't know much of the Xeer but I know one aspect of it on how they select or choose their Ugaas which is similar to how Dalai Lama in Tibetan Buddhism is chosen.

 

[Throughbred]

I don't know much of the Xeer but I know one aspect of it on how they select or choose their Ugaas which is similar to how Dalai Lama in Tibetan Buddhism is chosen.

Heard some aspect of this xeer goes against Islam ?

 

[Aaqil]

Heard some aspect of this xeer goes against Islam ?

Yeah and one of them is how they choose their Ugaas

 

[NidarNidar]

Yeah and one of them is how they choose their Ugaas

How is he picked?

 

[aarkamudug]

There's nothing in that vid that suggests the minister was "chased" out from Saylac a city predominantly inhabited by Samaroon who refused the so called "Xeer-Ciise" book ceremony to be held there without being consulted first.

One fact everyone here should Know about reer Ciise is that they're 80% nomads who move around and wander in the dessert hence why they don't have any major settlement or village and are inconstant grazing land dispute with Canfar who are also 80% nomads.

Samaroon ciise beef is very interesting from an outsider’s pov

 

[Garaad Awal]

Saylac is an Ciise town. The Samarone have no claim to the coast. They are pests who’s ancestors were poor landlocked mountain farmers with terrible Stoney land

 

[Araabi]

Let me add some context as I follow SL politics more than anyone on this forum.

Just as a caveat, Saylac today isn’t a particularly significant town. Its history is remarkable, yes, but in its present state there’s very little that makes it stand out. Honestly, if it weren’t for the customs office operating there, the town might have been largely deserted by now.

About OP's tweet: it’s simply incorrect. The stone throwing incident didn’t happen in Saylac itself, it took place in a village to the south called Ceel Gaal, which is part of the Saylac district.

On the matter of Xeer Ciise, the Ciise community recently held a cultural ceremony in Ethiopia to celebrate the Xeer Ciise book, and they hoped to recreate the event in Saylac. That’s where things became sensitive. While the wider Saylac district is shared by both Ciise and Gadabursi, the town of Saylac is almost entirely Gadabursi, whereas the Ciise mainly live in villages like Ceel Gaal, Asha Addo, Jidhi, and Abdulqadir, mostly nomadic settlements along the corridor near Ethiopia’s Ayshaca district.

Because tensions started rising, Somaliland’s Interior Minister, Abdalle Mohamed Sandheere, along with eight other ministers, spent more than a week in Saylac trying to understand the situation and find a path toward reconciliation. The delegation included ministers from several clans, including the Warsangeli and the Dhulbahante. When they met with Gadabursi elders in Saylac, the elders told them to walk through the town and ask every shopkeeper and homeowner what clan they belonged to. Their point was that if the delegation found a small handful of non Gadabursi residents who pay taxes to the central government from within the town, they would apologise and fully support holding the event there. The elders were proven right and when the Interior Minister asked if there was any room for compromise, the elders said no.

So a few days ago the government ultimately decided to cancel any plans to hold the conference in Saylac. This decision has angered the Ciise, sparking some protests in Ceel Gaal, Jidhi, and Asha Addo. The Ciise Ugaas is expected to make a huge announcement tomorrow, and it’s likely to be a turning point, either easing tensions or escalling them.

 

[Riftvalley]

Erdogan might have to send some peacekeepings troops a there if the situation deteriorates. Zeila has been neglected since the Ottomans pulled out. SL has failed the city.

 

[Jaffar]

There is also a xeer in the book which states If a woman screams says he toched I have been violates the xeer says he should marry her at the spot . It doesn’t matter if she is telling the truth or not

 

[Riftvalley]

There's nothing in that vid that suggests the minister was "chased" out from Saylac a city predominantly inhabited by Samaroon who refused the so called "Xeer-Ciise" book ceremony to be held there without being consulted first.

One fact everyone here should Know about reer Ciise is that they're 80% nomads who move around and wander in the dessert hence why they don't have any major settlement or village and are inconstant grazing land dispute with Canfar who are also 80% nomads.

Underestimating nomads is stupid.

 

[Riftvalley]

Let me add some context as I follow SL politics more than anyone on this forum.

Just as a caveat, Saylac today isn’t a particularly significant town. Its history is remarkable, yes, but in its present state there’s very little that makes it stand out. Honestly, if it weren’t for the customs office operating there, the town might have been largely deserted by now.

About OP's tweet: it’s simply incorrect. The stone throwing incident didn’t happen in Saylac itself, it took place in a village to the south called Ceel Gaal, which is part of the Saylac district.

On the matter of Xeer Ciise, the Ciise community recently held a cultural ceremony in Ethiopia to celebrate the Xeer Ciise book, and they hoped to recreate the event in Saylac. That’s where things became sensitive. While the wider Saylac district is shared by both Ciise and Gadabursi, the town of Saylac is almost entirely Gadabursi, whereas the Ciise mainly live in villages like Ceel Gaal, Asha Addo, Jidhi, and Abdulqadir, mostly nomadic settlements along the corridor near Ethiopia’s Ayshaca district.

Because tensions started rising, Somaliland’s Interior Minister, Abdalle Mohamed Sandheere, along with eight other ministers, spent more than a week in Saylac trying to understand the situation and find a path toward reconciliation. The delegation included ministers from several clans, including the Warsangeli and the Dhulbahante. When they met with Gadabursi elders in Saylac, the elders told them to walk through the town and ask every shopkeeper and homeowner what clan they belonged to. Their point was that if the delegation found a small handful of non Gadabursi residents who pay taxes to the central government from within the town, they would apologise and fully support holding the event there. The elders were proven right and when the Interior Minister asked if there was any room for compromise, the elders said no.

So a few days ago the government ultimately decided to cancel any plans to hold the conference in Saylac. This decision has angered the Ciise, sparking some protests in Ceel Gaal, Jidhi, and Asha Addo. The Ciise Ugaas is expected to make a huge announcement tomorrow, and it’s likely to be a turning point, either easing tensions or escalling them.

This race has a plateau. Imagine ministers walking around asking shopkeepers their qabil. Ya Allah.

 

[Araabi]

Erdogan might have to send some peacekeepings troops a there if the situation deteriorates. Zeila has been neglected since the Ottomans pulled out. SL has failed the city.

Not entirely true. Saylac died the day the French created the Dire Dawa - Djibouti railway.

Also in the 1920's, the British Protectorate decided to build a new town called Borama on the site west of old Amoud which would have farming as it's main revenue. These two events were the death of Saylac.

 

[Jaffar]

Let me add some context as I follow SL politics more than anyone on this forum.

Just as a caveat, Saylac today isn’t a particularly significant town. Its history is remarkable, yes, but in its present state there’s very little that makes it stand out. Honestly, if it weren’t for the customs office operating there, the town might have been largely deserted by now.

About OP's tweet: it’s simply incorrect. The stone throwing incident didn’t happen in Saylac itself, it took place in a village to the south called Ceel Gaal, which is part of the Saylac district.

On the matter of Xeer Ciise, the Ciise community recently held a cultural ceremony in Ethiopia to celebrate the Xeer Ciise book, and they hoped to recreate the event in Saylac. That’s where things became sensitive. While the wider Saylac district is shared by both Ciise and Gadabursi, the town of Saylac is almost entirely Gadabursi, whereas the Ciise mainly live in villages like Ceel Gaal, Asha Addo, Jidhi, and Abdulqadir, mostly nomadic settlements along the corridor near Ethiopia’s Ayshaca district.

Because tensions started rising, Somaliland’s Interior Minister, Abdalle Mohamed Sandheere, along with eight other ministers, spent more than a week in Saylac trying to understand the situation and find a path toward reconciliation. The delegation included ministers from several clans, including the Warsangeli and the Dhulbahante. When they met with Gadabursi elders in Saylac, the elders told them to walk through the town and ask every shopkeeper and homeowner what clan they belonged to. Their point was that if the delegation found a small handful of non Gadabursi residents who pay taxes to the central government from within the town, they would apologise and fully support holding the event there. The elders were proven right and when the Interior Minister asked if there was any room for compromise, the elders said no.

So a few days ago the government ultimately decided to cancel any plans to hold the conference in Saylac. This decision has angered the Ciise, sparking some protests in Ceel Gaal, Jidhi, and Asha Addo. The Ciise Ugaas is expected to make a huge announcement tomorrow, and it’s likely to be a turning point, either easing tensions or escalling them.

Hé is likely to declare war on Somaliland I believe and ask ciise to defend them selves from gadabuursi interesting events. We have now isaaq and gadabuursi on the same side ciise on the other the only people that can help ciise now are woqoyi bari they are the only other mamuul that exist in the north along side Somaliland. There are likely possible scenario where ciise in jabuuuti joints and sends some battalions but i don’t think they can win . Maybe ciise govt in jabuuti will start expellling maxammad case from jabuuti and confiscate their properties. This shit is going be gooodah Walahi xaaladu wa bariga dhexe