BREAKING NEWS Somalia is sovereign states the FGS in a new harsh letter to UN

MT Foxtrot

Anti-qabil
He has long been an enemy of them and thats not the issue its the selective application of law.

Ex-AS cant be government officials in one instance but are in every level of government outside of it. This is without touching on the controversies of ENDF in Baydhabo. Its clear Roobow would not act as a “Gareen” for Farmajo which imo is the real reason he was barred.

You mean he stopped a former member of al-Shabaab from becoming the head of a state government and ensured said state elected a leader amenable to his political goals? Man this Farmaajo guy sure sounds smart.
 

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You mean he stopped a former member of al-Shabaab from becoming the head of a state government and ensured said state elected a leader amenable to his political goals? Man this Farmaajo guy sure sounds smart.
Interfering with state elections is the core reason why we have enough distrust in typical state institutions that we cant even hold an election. Is whats in your mind Farmajos gain or the nations?

Your the one poster who every time I read I get surprised at how twisted and partisan someone can become for a leader with little to no accomplishments.
 

MT Foxtrot

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Interfering with state elections is the core reason why we have enough distrust in typical state institutions that we cant even hold an election. Is whats in your mind Farmajos gain or the nations?

Try to understand the FGS's perspective. They already had their fair share of obstinate FMSs who would operate as pseudo-sovereign countries rather than regional administrations. It was not uncommon for leaders of these states to bypass federal authority and meet foreign officials to sign deals with far-reaching consequences. In the case of Puntland, their blurring of federal and state responsibilities - printing the national currency outside the purview of the Central Bank - has completely wrecked local and neighbouring state economies. Essentially, there were profound differences in how FMS and the FGS viewed federalism and this impacted the FGS's ability to effectively run the country.

The SWS election, like the elections in GM and HS, was an opportunity to avoid a similar predicament developing in a younger FMS. Farmaajo supported a candidate who willing to work with the government instead of fighting them. I think it's naïve to expect a political leader not to take advantage of this situation considering what the alternative was.

Your the one poster who every time I read I get surprised at how twisted and partisan someone can become for a leader with little to no accomplishments.

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Try to understand the FGS's perspective. They already had their fair share of obstinate FMSs who would operate as pseudo-sovereign countries rather than regional administrations. It was not uncommon for leaders of these states to bypass federal authority and meet foreign officials to sign deals with far-reaching consequences. In the case of Puntland, their blurring of federal and state responsibilities - printing the national currency outside the purview of the Central Bank - has completely wrecked local and neighbouring state economies. Essentially, there were profound differences in how FMS and the FGS viewed federalism and this impacted the FGS's ability to effectively run the country.

The SWS election, like the elections in GM and HS, was an opportunity to avoid a similar predicament developing in a younger FMS. Farmaajo supported a candidate who willing to work with the government instead of fighting them. I think it's naïve to expect a political leader not to take advantage of this situation considering what the alternative was.



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I understand the FGS fan perspective now and your right I am the one being naive it sounds great that we have an African man looking for power consolidation and dismantling the only institutions we had any confidence in all for the oneness and betterment of the people. I mean honestly I call Axmed Madoobe the Sayid and even I am not this sold.

As for the second part Farmajos greatest achievement is “standing up” to the fms its why so many people from alternative backgrounds support him. Stadium/Air space is either minor or not his doing the “reforming of the army” is meaningless to me until we are cutting AS tax revenue from Xamar at the very least, a benchmark I believe is fair and reasonable.
 
I understand the FGS fan perspective now and your right I am the one being naive it sounds great that we have an African man looking for power consolidation and dismantling the only institutions we had any confidence in all for the oneness and betterment of the people. I mean honestly I call Axmed Madoobe the Sayid and even I am not this sold.

As for the second part Farmajos greatest achievement is “standing up” to the fms its why so many people from alternative backgrounds support him. Stadium/Air space is either minor or not his doing the “reforming of the army” is meaningless to me until we are cutting AS tax revenue from Xamar at the very least, a benchmark I believe is fair and reasonable.

You're a supporter of madoobe, i don't think you can have opinion when it comes to elections. You're also a supporter of madoobe so that again means you can't talk about a leader accomplishment as your standards are too low. We need higher standards to evaluate our leaders.
 

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You're a supporter of madoobe, i don't think you can have opinion when it comes to elections. You're also a supporter of madoobe so that again means you can't talk about a leader accomplishment as your standards are too low. We need higher standards to evaluate our leaders.
Before Farmajo, Madoobe was divisive between Ogadens. It was after Qalbi-Dhagax he started amassing more support and it was after bringing Ethiopians to Kismayo that it became impossible for anyone to accept you as Ogaden and support NN.

I will support Uhuru or even Xi Jinping against Farmajo today his support is solely based on the fact that he shuts Farmajo down from his attempts at destroying JL an Absame homeland and Farmajos support is almost entirely built on an Anti-FMS stance.

as @Sheikh Kulkuli says we united against the Arrow Roots not because we love the Sayids :zhqjlmx:
 

Dalalos_ibn_Adali

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Before Farmajo, Madoobe was divisive between Ogadens. It was after Qalbi-Dhagax he started amassing more support and it was after bringing Ethiopians to Kismayo that it became impossible for anyone to accept you as Ogaden and support NN.

I will support Uhuru or even Xi Jinping against Farmajo today his support is solely based on the fact that he shuts Farmajo down from his attempts at destroying JL an Absame homeland and Farmajos support is almost entirely built on an Anti-FMS stance.

as @Sheikh Kulkuli says we united against the Arrow Roots not because we love the Sayids :zhqjlmx:
Qalbidhagax is a mass murderer in Doollo and Qoraxeey, the average Somali from Somalia did not know this, we needed that nigga to be handed over and pinned on us, it was a false flag operation that backfired, look at me now united and winning. Do you know what a blessing in disguise is ?

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Qalbidhagax is a mass murderer in Doollo and Qoraxeey, the average Somali from Somalia did not know this, we needed that nigga to be handed over and pinned on us, it was a false flag operation that backfired, look at me now united and winning. Do you know what a blessing in disguise is ?

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Meet me in Kismayo and ill take your family home im the goddamn boogieman @kickz says hes from Kista go and ask him what happens when you talk out of order in the golden city.
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Unbelievable, the cheek! you'd think a gov thats been supported by the un through thick and thin would know better than to have the gall to show such ingratitude.
 
Unbelievable, the cheek! you'd think a gov thats been supported by the un through thick and thin would know better than to have the gall to show such ingratitude.
Oh thank you massa, can't believe the cheek of the Somalis for being ungrateful to the almighty gaalka cad
 
Oh thank you massa, can't believe the cheek of the Somalis for being ungrateful to the almighty gaalka cad
All of these things are irrelevant, and pride and arrogance has always been the downfall of Somalia. These things are earned only when you're independent and can support yourself without begging for scraps from the international community.
 
All of these things are irrelevant, and pride and arrogance has always been the downfall of Somalia. These things are earned only when you're independent and can support yourself without begging for scraps from the international community.
It is not irrelevant because it is the direct consequence of stupid decisions and worshiping gaalka. It didn't have to be this way, it is not this way for our neighbours who occupy us today.
 
It is not irrelevant because it is the direct consequence of stupid decisions and worshiping gaalka. It didn't have to be this way, it is not this way for our neighbours who occupy us today.
Sure, Somalia's collapse is all the fault of "gaalka". It's gaalka's fault why we've been slaughtering eachother for the last 30 years. The lack of self ownership over the f*ck ups in somalia is why we'll never solve our problems.
 
Sure, Somalia's collapse is all the fault of "gaalka". It's gaalka's fault why we've been slaughtering eachother for the last 30 years. The lack of self ownership over the f*ck ups in somalia is why we'll never solve our problems.
It is not what I said nor do I believe that. I said the stupid decision bringing gaalka to subjugate Somalis and their worship as our Lord and masters is what we suffer today.
 

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