I know the moderator allows tribe cause it's real issue but not with too many slurs, listen this is no but it's obvious what happened in Somalia when you can see it from an outside perspective. The colonials came and met the coastal areas of Somalia, they cut their deal sxb as they were used to trade of knowledge, goods, slaves(even), they had similar sized kingdoms like their surrounding area.
They saw the superior technology the colonials had who signed deals with them that they will form the administration ensuring the trade route thru the red sea isn't dangerous with pirates and they feared another colonial power may get to us first and cut a deal. The colonials wanted to gain access mainly to India as that was their main colonial project, the rest were minor treaties to them to ensure safe passage of the lane-way to get back to europe and sell their products(which is where they made alot money and capital) and why they were prepared to sign treaties with coastal areas and trading knowledge, weaponry, and possibly funds.
They were walking away with India 'resources' the british and selling it in england with no competition like 'tea' 'rice'and things the world didn't have at the time becuz there was no global market back then, they all had different kingdoms and dealt with different areas of their interest. Anyways the colonial only made one mistake in Somalia that was strategically wrong but it was mainly due to their ignorance of this region, they didn't have knowledge about the societal set up. They empowered essentially coastal minority with too much power(minority ruling majority) system like happened to South Africa(whites ruling blacks).
Those sorts of system even though it's beneficial to the coastal clans interest, it's not long-term sustainable because the interior clans will revolt. That's why u saw the war of mullah against berbera he wanted a port access, now Madoobe is the same in Kismayo. Just because the war is over religion doesn't mean that is the agenda. The war may be over shabab today, doesn't mean Madoobe agenda is any different to secure lifeline at the sea. It was exactly the same for mad mullah he used berbera school where the coastal clans were learning knowledge perhaps what type of knowledge I don't know but madmullah appeared to make it be 'christianity' kkkkkk like how Somalis call 'abaarso' christianity. So I have strong doubts this is true, he may of been jealous he can't secure port and needed a way to justify a war and christianity was that justification.
In Bari we have identical system where coastal elites tried to rule the majority interior camel herders using their coastal advantage. So u will see these coastal areas at the time were a minority in a sea of majority camel herders because no real town was developed in te interior till 1920-30's. They wanted to keep the area just 'hawd' and use it as 'muscle' for wars and that's it. So in Somalia case now I guess the coastal areas are weakened which is a good thing and the majority people who are camel herders are running the nation, so that is one good factor. So all those coastal guys forget the history, the future is the interior today and you need to learn your role in the state and adjust rather then disturb. It only seems the 'sacad musa and issa musa' has coastal area and keeps the interior clan hostage but how long it will work before he is swamped is yet to be seen. HY/HJ are definitely huge threats to him and he doesn't seem to have full control majority so you will need to cut alliances and he did with every clan but HY(maryalool).
So I wud urge HY, just accept the outcome and stop fighting it. He has ensured u can't swamp him because he has all Isaaq lined up for sacad muse and also he has habar yonis divided inside so your camp isn't looking to well cause it's 5 places like fowsiya haji in hamar begging hawiye to have strong govt, galgala with hy leaders to disturb bosaso, caare, all your isimo know where SL is heading and it's never going to change is what some Landers like @SirLancelLord wont accept. Iska accept gareey Samaalism wuu tashday niyahow, nin hadu tashdo lagama daba coyo ama convince gareeyo.
I really do congratulate the sacad muse held onto the interior so well, is it sustainable will depend how they work the HY, cause the rest are in-line like HJ who is like bah dubays who w ill negiotate for abaarso spots, I aint no HY with a divided camp thinking he can win this battle when it ended in a stalemate last time and ur in worse condition internally now look at CAARE
They saw the superior technology the colonials had who signed deals with them that they will form the administration ensuring the trade route thru the red sea isn't dangerous with pirates and they feared another colonial power may get to us first and cut a deal. The colonials wanted to gain access mainly to India as that was their main colonial project, the rest were minor treaties to them to ensure safe passage of the lane-way to get back to europe and sell their products(which is where they made alot money and capital) and why they were prepared to sign treaties with coastal areas and trading knowledge, weaponry, and possibly funds.
They were walking away with India 'resources' the british and selling it in england with no competition like 'tea' 'rice'and things the world didn't have at the time becuz there was no global market back then, they all had different kingdoms and dealt with different areas of their interest. Anyways the colonial only made one mistake in Somalia that was strategically wrong but it was mainly due to their ignorance of this region, they didn't have knowledge about the societal set up. They empowered essentially coastal minority with too much power(minority ruling majority) system like happened to South Africa(whites ruling blacks).
Those sorts of system even though it's beneficial to the coastal clans interest, it's not long-term sustainable because the interior clans will revolt. That's why u saw the war of mullah against berbera he wanted a port access, now Madoobe is the same in Kismayo. Just because the war is over religion doesn't mean that is the agenda. The war may be over shabab today, doesn't mean Madoobe agenda is any different to secure lifeline at the sea. It was exactly the same for mad mullah he used berbera school where the coastal clans were learning knowledge perhaps what type of knowledge I don't know but madmullah appeared to make it be 'christianity' kkkkkk like how Somalis call 'abaarso' christianity. So I have strong doubts this is true, he may of been jealous he can't secure port and needed a way to justify a war and christianity was that justification.
In Bari we have identical system where coastal elites tried to rule the majority interior camel herders using their coastal advantage. So u will see these coastal areas at the time were a minority in a sea of majority camel herders because no real town was developed in te interior till 1920-30's. They wanted to keep the area just 'hawd' and use it as 'muscle' for wars and that's it. So in Somalia case now I guess the coastal areas are weakened which is a good thing and the majority people who are camel herders are running the nation, so that is one good factor. So all those coastal guys forget the history, the future is the interior today and you need to learn your role in the state and adjust rather then disturb. It only seems the 'sacad musa and issa musa' has coastal area and keeps the interior clan hostage but how long it will work before he is swamped is yet to be seen. HY/HJ are definitely huge threats to him and he doesn't seem to have full control majority so you will need to cut alliances and he did with every clan but HY(maryalool).
So I wud urge HY, just accept the outcome and stop fighting it. He has ensured u can't swamp him because he has all Isaaq lined up for sacad muse and also he has habar yonis divided inside so your camp isn't looking to well cause it's 5 places like fowsiya haji in hamar begging hawiye to have strong govt, galgala with hy leaders to disturb bosaso, caare, all your isimo know where SL is heading and it's never going to change is what some Landers like @SirLancelLord wont accept. Iska accept gareey Samaalism wuu tashday niyahow, nin hadu tashdo lagama daba coyo ama convince gareeyo.
I really do congratulate the sacad muse held onto the interior so well, is it sustainable will depend how they work the HY, cause the rest are in-line like HJ who is like bah dubays who w ill negiotate for abaarso spots, I aint no HY with a divided camp thinking he can win this battle when it ended in a stalemate last time and ur in worse condition internally now look at CAARE
