Somalia Funding Model Needs Facts

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This is a big area of dispute between PL and the SFG. The funding model needs FACTS that all the world can observe and accept and there is only two facts.

1. Territorial Control
2. Census

No-one is going to use conflicting estimations or even some estimations provide no formulas they used and just entered numbers in a spreadsheet.

For example Formulas that need to be clear for all and measured consistently such as (rural water well, dam counts), urban area Electricity capacity, water infrastructure, ratio of IDPS.

All we know is Somalia is 80% rural and 20% urban based on GDP and Regional Revenues.

I prefer the territorial control method. For example PL controls 30% of the land, how it can control such land mass being 2% of the population makes no sense.

This is the most accurate and fair funding model if we use territory becuz a CENSUS is a long time away

1. PL gets 30% since their land mass is 30% of Somalia land mass
2. SL gets 15% since that's their land mass
3. GM/HS get 20% that's their land mass
4. JL gets 15-20%
5. SW gets the Rest
 

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Don't enter this thread and ruin with my city or town is bigger then yours or your's is empty, urban areas account for 20% of the population, 80% is rural.

Plus don't make claims, this is about FACTS all somalis and foreigners can review for themselves.
 

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@Hilmaam I didn't include Banadir becuz it's no-man land status legally speaking and as a capital it has to be neutral on politics since somalis have different politics or parties(in the future), it cannot have degmo-district character since somali are from various states-districts, and it cannot take upon a tribal character since Somalis are from different clan.

I just want fairness nothing else on Mogadishu status and future role in the federation. Imagine a capital claiming it represent somalis then discriminating them on tribe, your not banadir region, or your not centralist or follow this hisbi. Political/Tribal/Regional character ma yeelan karo, work with those goal-post and I think Puntland will be ok with whatever status it takes as long as it doesn't violate those principles.
 

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@Hilmaam I didn't include Banadir becuz it's no-man land status legally speaking and as a capital it has to be neutral on politics since somalis have different politics or parties(in the future), it cannot have degmo-district character since somali are from various states-districts, and it cannot take upon a tribal character since Somalis are from different clan.

I just want fairness nothing else on Mogadishu status and future role in the federation. Imagine a capital claiming it represent somalis then discriminating them on tribe, your not banadir region, or your not centralist or follow this hisbi. Political/Tribal/Regional character ma yeelan karo, work with those goal-post and I think Puntland will be ok with whatever status it takes as long as it doesn't violate those principles.
Puntland and somaliland get more funding I think because they have actually institution and laws. The money good chunk of it will be used correctly. The other FMS won’t get much till they get rid of Al shabab and build stable state
 

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Puntland and somaliland get more funding I think because they have actually institution and laws. The money good chunk of it will be used correctly. The other FMS won’t get much till they get rid of Al shabab and build stable state

Of course they will get more due to having governance set up, who do u expect to give the money to just some random clown where he has no public authority or systems that the donor can review or some damn private shop front?
 

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Snippet of what each FMS collected in Taxes for april. SWS, Galmudug, Hirshabelle in bad shape if you dont have major port your screwed in somalia. All collected less than 600k cant have workers soldiers and politicans with that
 

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Snippet of what each FMS collected in Taxes for april. SWS, Galmudug, Hirshabelle in bad shape if you dont have major port your screwed in somalia. All collected less than 600k cant have workers soldiers and politicans with that

There is no sources used where this data was collected. It's like the SFG Budget it opens it with large numbers but never closes it budget end of year with bank account receipts becuz that can't be forged government account balance and will expose their forecasts. U r very gullible if u see spreadsheet numbers.
 

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@Hilmaam do u think spreadsheet and numbers in there is facts? the SFG has no or very low local revenues, why? where is it's bank account trail and receipts to close their budget? if a budget isn't closed at the end of year, u can't even balance the budget for the next year.

it's just a hag writing his own numbers with no evidence.
 

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@Hilmaam the revenue of the SFG needs to provide 'tax' rate on all it's revenue source. Some regions collect 20 times higher tax rate becuz of low volume trade. Where-as low taxes indicate high level of trade volume. It's simple logic, when ur truck trader increases on the road, u keep the tax low becuz u can recoup it over large volume of truck, but if the tax rate is high, it can only mean ur trade volume is low and ur trying to recoup as much as u can on the limited trade.

Revenues doesn't mean ur rich, a strong wealthy region will ensure his taxes r low and revenue low in comparison to their GDP being large. If u start to see high taxes or govt revenue, that economy is not performing well and it's trade is shrinking and their trying to milk watever is left of it.
 

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@Hilmaam Mogadishu trade zone and who it serves is 2-3 million max, with 2 million in Mogadishu and periphery max 1 mill max. PL trade zone is covering all PL/SSC/Makhir/Burco/Erigavo/GM/Hiran, plus another trade zone into Ethiopia.

You need to capture large market share to have big GDP in africa becuz purchasing power is low so u need to spread ur trade zone on these naf la caris kkkk. If purchasing power was high u can just stick to ur region which is my goal 4 PL economic development.
 
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There is no sources used where this data was collected. It's like the SFG Budget it opens it with large numbers but never closes it budget end of year with bank account receipts becuz that can't be forged government account balance and will expose their forecasts. U r very gullible if u see spreadsheet numbers.in
Its posted on Somali finance office website could be they always revising it so has some error for sure

grants and aid will always be inconsistent due to west getting cheap or FGS politics. Somalia needs industry and jobs. somaliland puntland jubbaland and Banadir do same playbook with customs being bulk of revenue. Import more and more cheap goods. Why cant we produce own goods and export stuff and generate real wealth. We are dumping ground for countries like china that have economies of scale and produce things on the cheap. There needs to be a buy somali goods movement and investment in trade school, cheap electricity and cheap transportation (highways, rails..)
 

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Its posted on Somali finance office website could be they always revising it so has some error for sure

grants and aid will always be inconsistent due to west getting cheap or FGS politics. Somalia needs industry and jobs. somaliland puntland jubbaland and Banadir do same playbook with customs being bulk of revenue. Import more and more cheap goods. Why cant we produce own goods and export stuff and generate real wealth. We are dumping ground for countries like china that have economies of scale and produce things on the cheap. There needs to be a buy somali goods movement and investment in trade school, cheap electricity and cheap transportation (highways, rails..)

Yes I want PL trade partners to grow in GM/Hiran/SSC/Makhir/Burco/Erigavo/DDS as it means our 'trade' GDP goes up cuz those goods on those trucks depend on the naf la cari purchasing power which is where it's going to be consumed, but their pockets are empty. Id love to serve the west trade tho, our ports would boom. The govt can collect revenue and get it's business society to do public/private partnership to begin opening up industries with mass employment.

@Step a side cayaarta socodo ma ogga, PL wants to say 5 MJ middle class are worth 2 murusade richest ppl, for every 5 mjs in middle class they own more then murusade 1% and 99% naf la cari. We talking economies now not just business ppl. Get with the game.
 
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Yes I want PL trade partners to grow in GM/Hiran/SSC/Makhir/Burco/Erigavo as it means our 'trade' GDP goes up cuz those goods on those trucks depend on the naf la cari purchasing power which is where it's going to be consumed, but their pockets are empty. Id love to serve the west trade tho, our ports would boom.
Djibouti port makes more money than all of somalias ports put together somaliland included. They have chokehold on ethiopia trade which has way bigger GDP then us plus have one of the fastest growing economies in the world before war. They make over 1 billion a year in port fees from ethiopia
 

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Djibouti port makes more money than all of somalias ports put together somaliland included. They have chokehold on ethiopia trade which has way bigger GDP then us plus have one of the fastest growing economies in the world before war. They make over 1 billion a year in port fees from ethiopia

Somalis play zero sum game it's embedded at a social level where one clan has to win and another lose. Economies require ur partner to grow so u grow as a side effect. @The Midlands knows PL govt genuinely wants hiran to grow so our port activity increases, plus he wants PL to grow so he has bigger market space to serve for agriculture. But other hags have zero sum mentality which is why PL is getting tired with.

Why would PL want it's trade partners not to grow or suffer, our port wud lose a substanial activity, no caqli in hag heads, they also defy ppl logic with their zero sum mentality. If PL makes it, all GM/HS wud have a market space to 'serve' and fill all the 'gaps' in our industry and create them in their land, ma garatay? Like Hormuud did, but imagine that across all industries for their business ppl creating jobs locally and then exporting to PL markets wheree there is 'gaps' unfilled or providing competition to existing businesses. Caqli meesha ma taal hamar runti what exist in abudance is dhuso-ma-reebte kkkk cambulo, dameers
 
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