Somalia citizens

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Would you guys continue to support the Faqash policy of giving all Somali clans the Somalia passport and citizenship automatically, giving them unhindered access and opportunities in Somalia, such as being able to participate in Somalia politics even though you know some of these clans are mainly from Kenya and Ethiopia.

In addition, remember the 77 war destroyed not only our economy but our country, and the people we fought for and have always supported in Kenya and Ethiopia have never really done anything for us.

Infact devolution of power and increased freedom for Somalis in Ethiopia and Kenya they got in the 90s and 2000s has negatively impacted real Somalis from Somalia, I support not only reversing Somalia policy in regards to Somalis born in Kenya/Ethiopia, I support and argue that Kenya and Ethiopia reversing ethnic based federalism in Kenya and Ethiopia would be a good thing to Somalis from Somalia.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

I pose this questions to Somalia citizens, we all know who we are at the end of the day, speak your mind freely. There is a difference between Somali irredentism and Somali nationalism.

 

[DHOONYACAB]

77 war was the idea of a hanicaped lunatic who had no strategy-Alot of people dont know but everybody from gabyow to dhodaan to absame salaadiin told siyad bare to supply the jabhad with anti air craft and anitank hardware-field hospitals on the border and plain clothe soldiers if need be-But to not use the somali army to attack ethiopia-That would make the long struggle a border issue and devide international suport-He responded by arresting absame elders,generals acusing them of sedition-The famous dhodaan line
"Ogadeen damiin kama dhigtee,yaa u dirsiday howsha" Was a Direct attack on the embicle mad mans policy-Basically saying you bafoon no one asked you to do this.
THE WORST DECISION MAKER EVER-WHAT A CLUSTER F@^#&-

 

[Ragaasi]

Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia is the best thing Somalis in DDS got.

As for the citizenship thing, Siyaad Barre was born in Shilaabo, Ethiopia. not Somalia italiana, or British Somaliland (jsyk)

Your shooting your own "aabo" in the leg when proposing this.

 

[TekNiKo]

Yes, Somali irrenditism is a disaster and those Ethiopian/Kenyan communities should stick to their borders. Only peripheral clans along the border should receive citizenship as the interior clans cannot be trusted.

 

[TekNiKo]

Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia is the best thing Somalis in DDS got.

As for the citizenship thing, Siyaad Barre was born in Shilaabo, Ethiopia. not Somalia italiana, or British Somaliland (jsyk)

Your shooting your own "aabo" in the leg when proposing this.

Siyaad Barre was born in Garbaharay Gedo and is now currently buried there stop spreading lies.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Ethnic Federalism in Ethiopia is the best thing Somalis in DDS got.

As for the citizenship thing, Siyaad Barre was born in Shilaabo, Ethiopia. not Somalia italiana, or British Somaliland (jsyk)

Your shooting your own "aabo" in the leg when proposing this.

I don't know who you are, this topic is for Somalia citizens I actually want to know what my compatriots think about this subject.

 

[Aurelian]

Why call it faqash? It was there from 1950's decades before 1977. Yes I support it.

 

[DHOONYACAB]

They dont think that far-He could not contain his ciil-But i used the chance to educate the youth-

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Yes, Somali irrenditism is a disaster and those Ethiopian/Kenyan communities should stick to their borders. Only peripheral clans along the border should receive citizenship as the interior clans cannot be trusted.

great point

I attack this subject from a completely different angle, I saw we should consider where the majority of the clan lives, inside Somalia or outside Somalia, this is how you determine where their true loyalty lies.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Why call it faqash? It was there from 1950's decades before 1977. Yes I support it.

You are MJ correct ? you support Somalis from Ethiopia and Kenya having open access to Somalia.

noted.

 

[TekNiKo]

great point

I attack this subject from a completely different angle, I saw we should consider where the majority of the clan lives, inside Somalia or outside Somalia, this is how you determine where their true loyalty lies.

Periphery clans have their main population in Somalia proper so they can be trusted, tribes like Isaaq in the Hawd, MX in Doolo and Deka Suftu, Karanle in Babile, Majeerteen in Gallaadi Dhulbahante in Bookh etc. All of these clans have their major footprint in Somalia proper so they would never betray it.

But clans that dont have any significant Somalia proper presence represent a grave danger like Degodiye and should be barred.

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

Periphery clans have their main population in Somalia proper so they can be trusted, tribes like Isaaq in the Hawd, MX in Doolo and Deka Suftu, Karanle in Babile, Majeerteen in Gallaadi Dhulbahante in Bookh etc. All of these clans have their major footprint in Somalia proper so they would never betray it.

But clans that dont have any significant Somalia proper presence represent a grave danger like Degodiye and should be barred.

Now we are on the same page, in short it doesn't matter if a clan lives in Ethiopia or Kenya, or anywhere else, what matters is where their main base and population live, inside Somalia or outside.

Degodiye live in Somalia but their main base is Kenya followed by Ethiopia.
Garre live in Somalia but their main base is in Kenya
Ogaden live in Somalia but their main base is in Ethiopia followed by Kenya

 

[Hamzza]

I don't know who you are, this topic is for Somalia citizens I actually want to know what my compatriots think about this subject.

You have no business talking about the affairs of Somalia, and @Ragaasi is not your compatriot, considering you and your family hail from Caabudwaaq a village west of the provisional border and Ciilanle another tuulo deep in Ethiopia, as your bio says.

 

[TekNiKo]

You have no business talking about the affairs of Somalia, and @Ragaasi is not your compatriot, considering you and your family hail from Caabudwaaq a village west of the provisional border and Ciilanle another tuulo deep in Ethiopia, as your bio says.

Tired of this lie, Cabudwaaq is within proper Somalia

 

[Prince of HS]

Tired of this lie, Cabudwaaq is within proper Somalia

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[tyrannicalmanager]

>Somalis from Ethiopia/Kenya shouldn't receive somali citizenship except if they hail from my clan

 

[Dalalos_ibn_Adali]

You have no business talking about the affairs of Somalia, and @Ragaasi is not your compatriot, considering you and your family hail from Caabudwaaq a village west of the provisional border and Ciilanle another tuulo deep in Ethiopia, as your bio says.

Yes I am from Caabudwaaq and Cilaanle not Zanzibar

 

[TekNiKo]

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Google geocoding in Galgaduud is unreliable, they have no exact co ordinates.

 

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