Somalia agrees to attend Negev Forum meeting. Officials have been conducting quiet talks with Israel and have recently visited Israel
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Give tidings to the hypocrites that there is for them a painful punishment -
Those who take disbelievers as allies instead of the believers. Do they seek with them honor [through power]? But indeed, honor belongs to Allāh entirely.
And it has already come down to you in the Book [i.e., the Qur’ān] that when you hear the verses of Allāh [recited], they are denied [by them] and ridiculed; so do not sit with them until they enter into another conversation. Indeed, you would then be like them. Indeed, Allāh will gather the hypocrites and disbelievers in Hell all together -
Those who wait [and watch] you. Then if you gain a victory from Allāh, they say, "Were we not with you?" But if the disbelievers have a success, they say [to them], "Did we not gain the advantage over you, but we protected you from the believers?" Allāh will judge between [all of] you on the Day of Resurrection, and never will Allāh give the disbelievers over the believers a way [to overcome them].
Indeed, the hypocrites [think to] deceive Allāh, but He is deceiving them. And when they stand for prayer, they stand lazily, showing [themselves to] the people and not remembering Allāh except a little,
Wavering between them, [belonging] neither to these [i.e., the believers] nor to those [i.e., the disbelievers]. And whoever Allāh sends astray - never will you find for him a way.
O you who have believed, do not take the disbelievers as allies instead of the believers. Do you wish to give Allāh against yourselves a clear case?
Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire - and never will you find for them a helper -
Except for those who repent, correct themselves, hold fast to Allāh, and are sincere in their religion for Allāh, for those will be with the believers. And Allāh is going to give the believers a great reward.
What would Allāh do with [i.e., gain from] your punishment if you are grateful and believe? And ever is Allāh Appreciative and Knowing.
Surah An-Nisa 138-147
Those who take disbelievers as allies instead of the believers. Do they seek with them honor [through power]? But indeed, honor belongs to Allāh entirely.
And it has already come down to you in the Book [i.e., the Qur’ān] that when you hear the verses of Allāh [recited], they are denied [by them] and ridiculed; so do not sit with them until they enter into another conversation. Indeed, you would then be like them. Indeed, Allāh will gather the hypocrites and disbelievers in Hell all together -
Those who wait [and watch] you. Then if you gain a victory from Allāh, they say, "Were we not with you?" But if the disbelievers have a success, they say [to them], "Did we not gain the advantage over you, but we protected you from the believers?" Allāh will judge between [all of] you on the Day of Resurrection, and never will Allāh give the disbelievers over the believers a way [to overcome them].
Indeed, the hypocrites [think to] deceive Allāh, but He is deceiving them. And when they stand for prayer, they stand lazily, showing [themselves to] the people and not remembering Allāh except a little,
Wavering between them, [belonging] neither to these [i.e., the believers] nor to those [i.e., the disbelievers]. And whoever Allāh sends astray - never will you find for him a way.
O you who have believed, do not take the disbelievers as allies instead of the believers. Do you wish to give Allāh against yourselves a clear case?
Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire - and never will you find for them a helper -
Except for those who repent, correct themselves, hold fast to Allāh, and are sincere in their religion for Allāh, for those will be with the believers. And Allāh is going to give the believers a great reward.
What would Allāh do with [i.e., gain from] your punishment if you are grateful and believe? And ever is Allāh Appreciative and Knowing.
Surah An-Nisa 138-147
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Prince of HS
VIP
@bidenkulaha has a different opinion and stance on Somali politics than the rest of you and he is Oromo. Comical
brother be a wadani. qabiil is no good, it just takes and destroys, it’s never satisfied at any level. I believe in u
You are brainwashed and place a forumer who you do not know over Islam and Muslims over your deen, due to believing he is from you qabil.
That is how easily manipulated you are.
Prince of HS
VIP
Not manipulation to be fair. It’s more so I just don’t give a toss what he is. This is a public forum. I came to listen and understand ideas. Not try figure out who is behind the screen
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
yes regconising Israel right over Al Aqsa will somehow alleviate Somalia's problems.
bidenkulaha
GalYare
You make a lot of sense. We just need to trade in the Israel card for some diplomatic stuff. Big things like arms embargo and loans is what I prefer.
But I don’t believe in this ‘Israel will give us access to high tech, help us with education and healthcare’. It’s actually America that we need and Israel effectively control America through their lobby. We can do with the support of Israel’s lobby and start allying with them in America’s Congress.
Tech, healthcare and education is expensive. Till we have funds they won’t do it out of charity. And once we do have funds we can get that from anywhere. Why bother with Israel.
Most of these guys don’t have any vision. Biden is desperate for Israel normalisation with Muslim countries and we can get a lot from America on the stuff I mentioned which will strengthen the power of the FGS a considerably.
Anyway good times ahead for Somalia.
They believe power and relief are in the hands of aggressive kafirs who hate Islam and not Allah swt.
Everyone will be held accountable for their own decisions on yawmal qiyama and they have no effect over what happens regardless. Most are likely not Somali/Muslims.
HSM could never, it would be his end.
As long as it benefits Somalia and the Somali people, yes.
Allying with the Israelis is sure to make somalia better because isreal loves Somalia and they will give us big buildings, hospitals , roads and every Somali will get atleast 1000 dollars a month from isreal YAAAAAAAAAAAY! This is how dumb you guys sound 
Somalia is already doing whatever america wants which is btw the most richest powerful technologically advanced country on earth but yet we haven’t been given a fraction of what america has . Stop defending dumb shit because a particular politician is your qabil
Somalia is already doing whatever america wants which is btw the most richest powerful technologically advanced country on earth but yet we haven’t been given a fraction of what america has . Stop defending dumb shit because a particular politician is your qabil
Allying with the Israelis is sure to make somalia better because isreal loves Somalia and they will give us big buildings, hospitals , roads and every Somali will get atleast 1000 dollars a month from isreal YAAAAAAAAAAAY! This is how dumb you guys sound
Somalia is already doing whatever america wants which is btw the most richest powerful technologically advanced country on earth but yet we haven’t been given a fraction of what america has . Stop defending dumb shit because a particular politician is your qabil
One even foolishly used Sudan as an example lol.
Ah yes, Somalia, the lone nation to save Palestine from Israel. Even their fellow Arabs gave up on them.Allying with the Israelis is sure to make somalia better because isreal loves Somalia and they will give us big buildings, hospitals , roads and every Somali will get atleast 1000 dollars a month from isreal YAAAAAAAAAAAY! This is how dumb you guys sound
Somalia is already doing whatever america wants which is btw the most richest powerful technologically advanced country on earth but yet we haven’t been given a fraction of what america has . Stop defending dumb shit because a particular politician is your qabil
It is not about saving anyone. It is about our deen and not allying/supporting aggressive kafirs who kill Muslims, spread war against Islam and Muslim and want to destroy one of our holiest sites. Go to Mogadishu and try to talk like that.
Yes, unfortunately a large part of the population lacks critical thinking skills. Somalis want to save everyone but themselves.
tyrannicalmanager
pseudo-intellectual
Who's here saying Somalis should march to Palestine and liberate it from Jews? Is not having relations with Israel the same as declaring war, also if the Arab commit shirk or Kufr should we also do it?
This is a move I agree with. Recognizing Israel will decrease Somalia’s cadow. But there will surely be motion filed for this by parliament against the president. How he handles that we’ll have to wait and see.
US is not a great ally. They won’t go tooth and nail for you like Eritrea, China, or Russia. So this just seems like pointless fluff.
US is not a great ally. They won’t go tooth and nail for you like Eritrea, China, or Russia. So this just seems like pointless fluff.
Sudan was sanctioned and on the sponsors of terror list and also didn't have a existential fight with Al Qaeda so recognition made sense, even if it was very amoral.Allying yourself with the Zionist Yahuud is crazy; they are our enemies.
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Sudan allied with them and got some grain and a new civil war? Wow, such great rewards doled out to the goyim.
There is absolutely no excuse for Somalia. If HSM recognizes them he needs to get removed, because he's not just amoral he's also stupid
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