Somali Scholar - Uthman bin Ali Zayla'i (1342 A.D)

[MacrobianPrince]

Consisting of four volumes, it is known as the Tabayin al-Haqa’iq li Sharh Kanz al-Daqa’iq - single most authoritative text on the Hanafi school of Islam. He studied in Al-Azhar University

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Somalis were Hanafis before

 

[Nur_]

I often wonder what Somalis were doing in the Islamic golden age sometimes. You don't hear about it much, at least not in English sources very frequently. Although most of it was just Persians, I do wonder what we were doing at that time. Interesting find Walaal.

 

[Arabsiyawi]

Proof of him actually being Somali, tho ?

 

[MacrobianPrince]

Proof of him actually being Somali, tho ?

Zeyla'i is an exclusively Somali Nisbah historically - His name itself is verification alone

 

[MacrobianPrince]

I often wonder what Somalis were doing in the Islamic golden age sometimes. You don't hear about it much, at least not in English sources very frequently. Although most of it was just Persians, I do wonder what we were doing at that time. Interesting find Walaal.

Appreciate it to be honest I think the Islamic Golden age was in the 1500s to be honest Muslims completly ruled the Mediteranean and the middle East, Somalis ruled the entire horn and were trading Coffee internationally, the Hindi races were ruled by Muslims. Aside from the Iberians gaining independence the old world was almost completely ruled by Muslims.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Proof of him actually being Somali, tho ?

"Al Zayla'i"

 

[Barkhadle1520]

I often wonder what Somalis were doing in the Islamic golden age sometimes. You don't hear about it much, at least not in English sources very frequently. Although most of it was just Persians, I do wonder what we were doing at that time. Interesting find Wala, al.

Gradual conversion to islam, cities and towns popping up everywhere basically state building and small muslim kingdoms fighting for dominance, we barely anything about this period tho

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Appreciate it to be honest I think the Islamic Golden age was in the 1500s to be honest Muslims completly ruled the Mediteranean and the middle East, Somalis ruled the entire horn and were trading Coffee internationally, the Hindi races were ruled by Muslims. Aside from the Iberians gaining independence the old world was almost completely ruled by Muslims.

To be honest its throughout the 15th century and not 16th, and somalis didnt go sell their coffee internationally they just shipped it to the arabian peninsula and the arabs would go on to spread it to mecca then to cairo then to constantinople

 

[Arabsiyawi]

Zeyla'i is an exclusively Somali Nisbah historically - His name itself is verification alone

lol

 

[wonyluvr]

lol

What’s up with you?

 

[MacrobianPrince]

somalis didnt go sell their coffee internationally they just shipped it to the arabian peninsula

That is international trade, and plus all coffee sold at that time period was exclusivly sold from Somali merchants, Yemeni didn't have there own strand of Coffee until way later and Europeans didn't start growing Coffee in the Americas until late 1600s

 

[Barkhadle1520]

lol

Nigga mad he aint called Habar awali

 

[Diophantus]

I often wonder what Somalis were doing in the Islamic golden age sometimes. You don't hear about it much, at least not in English sources very frequently. Although most of it was just Persians, I do wonder what we were doing at that time. Interesting find Walaal.

probably looting camels and women lool

 

[Idilinaa]

probably looting camels and women lool

Camels were actually crucial for transporting large amounts of goods, which is how many of the interior trade towns developed. So when Somalis weren’t out at sea sailing long distances, they were leading inland caravan routes and facilitating trade across regions

So they ran large caravans inland and maintained sophisticated trade systems.

To be honest its throughout the 15th century and not 16th, and somalis didnt go sell their coffee internationally they just shipped it to the arabian peninsula and the arabs would go on to spread it to mecca then to cairo then to constantinople

Actually, Somali merchants had their own trading quarters in Mocha and sold coffee directly to European customers not just through Arab middlemen. There were also prominent Somali merchants represented in Istanbul, as shown in that letter someone posted before

I often wonder what Somalis were doing in the Islamic golden age sometimes. You don't hear about it much, at least not in English sources very frequently. Although most of it was just Persians, I do wonder what we were doing at that time. Interesting find Walaal.

The whole 'Persian' thing is often overstated or misinterpreted, because many historical sources just use the term 'Ajam' which literally means 'non-Arab.' A lot of people translate that directly as 'Persian,' but in many cases, it simply referred to any non-Arab person. So really, the history of Islam is shaped by contributions from a wide range of non-Arab peoples, not just Persians

 

[Midas]

Camels were actually crucial for transporting large amounts of goods, which is how many of the interior trade towns developed. So when Somalis weren’t out at sea sailing long distances, they were leading inland caravan routes and facilitating trade across regions

So they ran large caravans inland and maintained sophisticated trade systems.



Actually, Somali merchants had their own trading quarters in Mocha and sold coffee directly to European customers not just through Arab middlemen. There were also prominent Somali merchants represented in Istanbul, as shown in that letter someone posted before





The whole 'Persian' thing is often overstated or misinterpreted, because many historical sources just use the term 'Ajam' which literally means 'non-Arab.' A lot of people translate that directly as 'Persian,' but in many cases, it simply referred to any non-Arab person. So really, the history of Islam is shaped by contributions from a wide range of non-Arab peoples, not just Persians

People also dont seem to realize that the reasons Persians seem to have disproportionately contributed to islam. Is that most of the main Islamic urban centers were in the Iranian plateau. In eygpt you only had Cairo and in the Levant it was damascus and like maybe 1 other city. Whereas in the Iranian plateau you had shiraz, Isfahan, merv, nishapur, samarkand, balkh, bukhara, herat, etc.

 

[Idilinaa]

People also dont seem to realize that the reasons Persians seem to have disproportionately contributed to islam. Is that most of the main Islamic urban centers were in the Iranian plateau. In eygpt you only had Cairo and in the Levant it was damascus and like maybe 1 other city. Whereas in the Iranian plateau you had shiraz, Isfahan, merv, nishapur, samarkand, balkh, bukhara, herat, etc.

There was also Baghdad that's the one other major learning center/city, but you are right when i think about it though their volume of contribution stems from the geographic distribution of major urban and scholarly centers.

 

[Midas]

There was also Baghdad that's that one other major learning center, but you are right when i think about it though their volume of contribution stems from the geographic distribution of major urban and scholarly centers.

They were also due to overpopulation,disease,climatic changes,etc beginning in the 10th century the most likely to migrate to other urban centers outisde the Iranian plateau. This mobility massively expanded with the mongol conquest which utterly destoryed several of these urban centers and lead to massive migration of theses Iranian urban elites to other parts of the Muslim world.

 

[Guure⁸]

There is a one who wrote a hadith book called نصب الراية