Somali Scholar Professor Samatar CONDEMNS tribalist Farmajo for his tribally written Theseis

[Boqor Geeljire252]

They captured them during fighing and released them.


Funny how you'll defend Somali children, women and civilian men being bombed and massacred in Mogadishu by foreign military powers, but call these same foreign military powers martyrs when Somalis rightfully defend themselves.


Dead Somali civilians = a-ok
Dead US soldiers = martyrs.


You're one twisted man. You've already been thoroughly karbashed in this thread, any more would be me re-iterating what has already been said.

Karbaashed is an understatement


He resorted to calling gaalo "mujahideen"

 

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

You keep peddling the same lie ; I have already disproved this, USC was the most humane somali rebel group, they were given direct orders NOT to kill innocents nor did they loot properties.

That is a lie. Everyone knows there was a genocide in Galkacyo, I lost a lot of family in that. Nearly all the Omar Mahmud elders were killed and all the madhiban women raped.

My own father was lucky he wasn't killed. He left the house he was living in 2 weeks before USC entered Xamar, long story short the USC killed all 10 people in the house my dad lived in except my awoowe who was a SYL power-broker and Abdullahi Issa's first choice for minister.

Don't believe me here is the sources:

Clan Cleansing in Somalia: The Ruinous Legacy of 1991

This book is considered the most accurate book about Aidiid's crimes in Somalia

"The best book about recent events in Somalia is undoubtedly Clan Cleansing in Somalia, by Lidwien Kapteijns, a must-read for anyone wanting to unravel the complicated nature of our civil war."—Nuruddin Farah, New York Times


"A brilliant book that reopens some of the central questions of Somali history and politics in a compelling manner."—Journal of African History

"Kapteijn's use of Somali-language sources—contemporary poetry, oral interviews, news reports, and radio recordings—is very effective in providing a ground-level view of the violence both at the time of the 'cleansing' and in the survivors' subsequent reflections upon it. This is a most welcome contribution to a literature on the civil war, which has until now been dominated by the analyses of foreign experts and Somali diaspora scholars."—Lee Cassanelli, University of Pennsylvania


"This book is not only an authoritative research project in Somali studies, but a serious source to be consulted on Somalia's future social repair and reconciliation."—World Peace Foundation

As for looting, how do you explain the amount land suddenly owned by Hawiye in Xamar and how you guys went from living in the outskirts of Galkacyo to living 10% of the city???

Mogadishu is the most advanced Somali city and the world's second fastest growing city.

Keep hating

Hawiye bragging about stolen land kkkkk.:siilaanyolaugh:

 

[TheLibertarianQuiche]

Youre talking out of your ass

Go beg Isaaqs

What is not true in the statement I said.

Hawiye destroyed Xamar: USC power struggle, black hawk down, 25 years of instability and continuous terror attacks.

USC are guilty of looting and genocide based on qabiil: Galkacyo iyo Xamar to name a few.

No resources were looted under Daarod administrations.

If people didn't like bombardment in '91 they could have moved into an empty house in another suburb.

I'm waiting for your response.

 

[Lord Flacko]

You're omar mohamud?

In the aftermath of the Ogaden debacle, a group of disgruntled army officers attempted a coup d'état against the regime in April 1978. Their leader was Colonel Mahammad Shaykh Usmaan, a member of the Majeerteen clan, which resides mostly in northeastern Somalia. The coup failed and seventeen alleged ringleaders, including Usmaan, were summarily executed. All but one of the executed were of the Majeerteen clan. One of the plotters, Lieutenant Colonel Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmedescaped to Ethiopia and founded an anti-Siad Barre organization initially called the Somali Salvation Front (SSF; later the Somali Salvation Democratic Front, SSDF).

The Red Berets systematically smashed the small reservoirs in the area around Galcaio so as to deny water to the Umar Mahamuud Majeerteen sub-clans and their herds. In May and June 1979, more than 2,000 Umar Mahamuud, the Majeerteen sub-clan of Colonel Ahmad, died of thirst in the waterless area northeast of Galcaio, Garoowe, and Jerriiban. In Galcaio, members of the Victory Pioneers, the urban militia known for harassing civilians, raped large numbers of Majeerteen women. In addition, the clan lost an estimated 50,000 camels, 10,000 cattle, and 100,000 sheep and goats.

Unfortunate. Sorry for your loss.



Now I'm not taking a Puntlander who begs to be run from Hargeisa seriously. Go fish

 

[Boqor Geeljire252]

That is a lie. Everyone knows there was a genocide in Galkacyo, I lost a lot of family in that. Nearly all the Omar Mahmud elders were killed and all the madhiban women raped.

My own father was lucky he wasn't killed. He left the house he was living in 2 weeks before USC entered Xamar, long story short the USC killed all 10 people in the house my dad lived in except my awoowe who was a SYL power-broker and Abdullahi Issa's first choice for minister.

Don't believe me here is the sources:

Clan Cleansing in Somalia: The Ruinous Legacy of 1991

This book is considered the most accurate book about Aidiid's crimes in Somalia

Clan cleansing book is a political fiction book in which Lidwien Kapteijns tries to depict Hawiye as bloodthirsty savages who had the ultimate goal of wiping darood off the map
The entire book written using the words of kacaan loyalists . She even goes as far as to claim darood were superior and dominated all other somali clans for a century



She claims in her book, USC/SPM captured kismaayo in a bloodbath,unleashing all sorts of wild savagery on the civilian populace.

pg 242

Here's the reality, USC/SPM captured Kiamaayo without firing a single bullet.
Col Omar Jess and Gen Aideed establishing a temporary government after meeting with elders.





Her book has been throughouly debunked numerous times (using actual footage from the Somali archives) and by academics such as Abdulqadir Osman Aroma.

You could have atleast found a more reliable source, such as video footage.

Everyone knows there was a genocide in Galkacyo, I lost a lot of family in that. Nearly all the Omar Mahmud elders were killed and all the madhiban women raped.

My own father was lucky he wasn't killed. He left the house he was living in 2 weeks before USC entered Xamar, long story short the USC killed all 10 people in the house my dad lived in except my awoowe who was a SYL power-broker and Abdullahi Issa's first choice for minister.

Gaalkacyo wars started long before 91.

In the early 80's during kacaan vs mahbar (ay militia) wars, the interior minister of Afweyne regime met with all clans in mudug (mj not included) and offered us to massacre you with government arms, This is what he said “waa idiin bannaan tahay naf iyo maalba, inaad dishaan oo dhacdaan oo naagahooda meher la’aan guursataan Cumar Maxamuud”.

This was the response of sacad leaders at the time, Jaamac Seed “nooma bannaana, waa Muslim, waa Somaali, waa deris, waa xigto iyo xidid”.




Fast foward to late 80's during war against HG, mj were given the same offer (after ssdf afweyne deal) and they went round pillaging our towns of Dagaari, Gowlalo,Sadle-Higlo, Bandiiradley, Galinsor, Wargalo, Do'ol, Halimo, Go'ondalay and Galkayo while hiding behind Afweyne's shirt.



91 revenge killings were a direct response to what happened in what ssdf done,
it was not Caydiid (AUN) nor USC orders!
you have to take that up with Qeybdiid, the man you welcomed like a hero in garowe a few years ago.



Caydiid(AUN) and other USC leaders, such as Col. Jess, took swift action, halting all revenge attacks and allowing you back into Mudug.

The reason you are in Mudug is because of the good actions of Caydiid (aun), who told qeybdiid to withdraw from all captured land.

As for looting, how do you explain the amount land suddenly owned by Hawiye in Xamar and how you guys went from living in the outskirts of Galkacyo to living 10% of the city???





Hawiye bragging about stolen land kkkkk.

Hawiye have always been present in gaalkacyo and xamar, that is an undeniable fact.

 

[AceofSom]

Farmaajo is a fraud, end of story

 

[CallMeAdeero]

hawyie will be a joke if yall let this fraud rules you

 

[Abdalla]

Even in death AY has people shook up.

They still have nightmares about him, he's the hutu boogeyman

 

[Bernie Madoff]

They still have nightmares about him, he's the hutu boogeyman

Sir Lankan looking ass nigga

 

[Duchess]

Sir Lankan looking ass nigga

He looks better than your bucktooth saber-tooth tiger looking ass.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

He looks better than your bucktooth saber-tooth looking ass.

The hell ? You seen my teeth before or something. You seem like a miserable ass person. How's your life going? I'm sure being a online qabilist keyboard warrior is working great for you

 

[Bernie Madoff]

Why does this islan always be sending for me.


Put all that effort into your husband not me

 

[Abdalla]

Holy USC/SNM alliance.



The man who came to mogadishu on a Ethiopian tank in 2006....
Then again Mj's have a history of allying with foreigners against other clans....

I assume you're Isaaq: He didn't need Ethiopian tanks to karbaash your lalaland senseless

The situation changed in late 2002 following the death of President Maxamed Ibraahim Ciigal and the inauguration of his vice president, Daahir Rayaale Kahin, as president. The new president visited Laascaanood in December 2002. This unprecedented event triggered a brief but fierce shoot out in the town and resulted in the withdrawal of the Somaliland forces and administration from there. The void was filled gradually by Puntland, which took serious steps to establish an effective military and then civilian administration in early 2004. Somaliland reacted by sending armed forces to the Sool region. The Somaliland troops could only proceed as far as Isaaq clans and the few Dhulbahante sub-clans sympathetic to Somaliland resided. Somaliland established itself near the village of Cadhadeye, about 30 km west of Laascaanood. Puntland secured Laascaanood’s western exit and established its troops close to the town.

http://hornofafrica.ssrc.org/Hoehne/

In case you're hawiye, did Ethiopians force your biggest warlords, who have the same military rank as him, salute him as their saviour?

Salute abaha ku was

 

[Duchess]

The hell ? You seen my teeth before or something. You seem like a miserable ass person. How's your life going? I'm sure being a online qabilist keyboard warrior is working great for you

You of all people calling someone else a "miserable ass person" and "qabilist" is laughable. Did you not just try to come for the appearance of a dead man who hails from a tribe you hate?

Perhaps your time would be better used seeing an orthodontist about your protruding teeth. We can see it live and direct from your dp. It looks like you're struggling to close your lips. Don't try to talk shit about others when you look like the poster child for anti-bullying ads.

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Sir Lankan looking ass nigga

You out of all people shouldn't come for anyone's look. You cockeyed, ET looking ass. You look like chromosomes research that went wrong!

 

[Lord Flacko]

I assume you're Isaaq: He didn't need Ethiopian tanks to karbaash your lalaland senseless


http://hornofafrica.ssrc.org/Hoehne/

In case you're hawiye, did Ethiopians force your biggest warlords, who have the same military rank as him, salute him as their saviour?

Salute abaha ku was

Hes not Isaaq lol

 

[Abdalla]

Hes not Isaaq lol

Do you praise Eydeed in front of your MJ mother and MJ abtis? Just wondering. If so, how do they respond.

 

[Lord Flacko]

Do you praise Eydeed in front of your MJ mother and MJ abtis? Just wondering. If so, how do they respond.

according to the users here I dont have an mj mom or reer abti And considering MJs were the first rebels against Barre who knows

 

[Bernie Madoff]

You out of all people shouldn't come for anyone's look. You cockeyed, ET looking ass. You look like chromosomes research that went wrong!

@Duchess please control your chihuahua you forgot to put a leash on this

 

[Abdalla]

according to the users here I dont have an mj mom or reer abti And considering MJs were the first rebels against Barre who knows

Why don't you just answer the question instead of trying to enhance your ill sense of sarcasm.