Somali military. What advantages does AS have?

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Gif-King
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They are abused because they are considered as .5 and you are considered as “1”. That gives you political leverage already, even though you
arrived recently from Ethiopia and these people have been natives for more than a century.

They get abused, no one marries them, no significant positions in government. Neglected community why they handover their kids to Al Shabaab. Keep disrespecting and mistreating them, for every jareeer kid you use and abuse is one more who will blow up himself. Allah is all about xaq, no xaq no peace.
Their should be a 5.0 system in place it is unfair that “Samaale” clans sit on their traditional home lands as “MPs” around Jilib thats like Ogadens claiming Bajun Islands. The thing about that is AS controls the Bantu homelands so how exactly are they abused by us in JL Should we do force marriages for Bantus:ayaanswag:

As for your first point I get more weight politically in JL because I am more in population, settle the most territory in the state, and lastly I conquered the state almost 200 years ago of course I have the upper hand in politics there was nobody “native” before me besides Gaalo Madow:draketf:
I'm a I would agree to sacrifice my qabiil for Somalia, but the problem is most other qabiils respect us and have no beef with us.
So it probably won't convince other clans to fight against dir
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I don’t actually want to antagonize Dir but rather would have clans be manipulated into thinking all their representatives in AS are puppets and that its another clans plot to take their land.

We do it often over facebook against states and gov allies all the time. All you need to do is pay a few Duqbilows and Dabcasars to change perspective maybe then these cawaans will get a little pressure and motivation to free their dhul.
 

Abaadir

National socialist
Daroods can’t unite Farmajo just gave away the federal government to a single clan setting us back decades and @Abaadir considers it a win against MJs :snoop:

oh yeah thats without saying half the problems we currently face would cease to exist after a change of the capital. Changing it would mean upsetting a delicate balance of qabyalad though.

Galkacyo should have been the interim capital instead of Baydhabo

How are they abused? Do they deserve the presidency for being a small clan?

I don’t buy the “AS are all yaryars” argument it’s possible most of their defects and suiciders are Bantu and others but the group is definitely filled with all southern clans.
Why are you calaacaling neither MJ or OG voted for Farmaajo zilch zero it was Dir,Hawiye and RX where he got 85% of his votes and you expect favors of Daroodnimo from him? Anybody but MX they said :mjlaugh:
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
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AS is just a convenient Boogeyman. Wouldn't be suprised if half the suicide attacks are planned within NISA's headquarters.

If you want to retake the country first clean up Xamar or move the capital.
Partly it is the NISA who think they can turn Shabaab militants to become agents but it has backfired many times but it's also partly that Shabaab is really good at what they do. They infiltrate the government and collect taxes it's like a parallel government at this point.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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Partly it is the NISA who think they can turn Shabaab militants to become agents but it has backfired many times but it's also partly that Shabaab is really good at what they do. They infiltrate the government and collect taxes it's like a parallel government at this point.

Don't try to make them out to be Hydra.


Fahad Yasiin was one of the founding members of AS and has been controlling them from behind the scenes on behalf of his Qatari backers.

Why would Qatar be interested in destabilizing Somalia?

They're probably also proxies for some western faction most likely based in the UK.


If an intelligence agency was serious about ridding a country of a hostile militant group they'd have a million ways to go about it.

However AS still seems to be able to get through dozens of road stops or move around bulk materials for explosives around a heavily surveiled city.

It literally costs $10/month to buy eyes all across the country.

So many low level starving AS foot soldiers would happily sell out their higher ups if NISA genuinely offered.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

NISA = AS
 

SomaliWadaniSoldier

Weeping for the Nation of 68
Xarakada Shabaabul Mujahideen is battlehardened after years of war against socalled govt & amisom. Also the terrain gives them advantage.
They can hide in the huge Shabeellaha Hoose and in Galgala Mountains(not even to mention Jubbooyinka).

We are talking about a stubborn group which beside war also estabilished shariah courts and some resemblance of stability in areas under their control.

On the other hand SFG is corrupt and extremely weak.
Farmaajo needs Amisom Protection if he leaves Villa Somalia.
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
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Don't try to make them out to be Hydra.


Fahad Yasiin was one of the founding members of AS and has been controlling them from behind the scenes on behalf of his Qatari backers.

Why would Qatar be interested in destabilizing Somalia?

They're probably also proxies for some western faction most likely based in the UK.


If an intelligence agency was serious about ridding a country of a hostile militant group they'd have a million ways to go about it.

However AS still seems to be able to get through dozens of road stops or move around bulk materials for explosives around a heavily surveiled city.

It literally costs $10/month to buy eyes all across the country.

So many low level starving AS foot soldiers would happily sell out their higher ups if NISA genuinely offered.

It's all smoke and mirrors.

NISA = AS
Shabaab are more sophisticated than NISA if you read academic journals about them or Harun Maruf's book you realize they are not the run of the mill group in Somalia. Their intelligence agency is more competent than NISA and they infiltrated every facet of Somali society. Fahad Yasin isn't part of Shabaab he just makes money off of the insecurity. I think it's more down to incompetence and greed.

 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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Shabaab are more sophisticated than NISA if you read academic journals about them or Harun Maruf's book you realize they are not the run of the mill group in Somalia. Their intelligence agency is more competent than NISA and they infiltrated every facet of Somali society. Fahad Yasin isn't part of Shabaab he just makes money off of the insecurity. I think it's more down to incompetence and greed.


That's why I said it's all smoke and mirrors.

NISA is incompetent for a reason.

Even greed and laziness wouldn't explain their incompetence.
 

reer

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Shabaab are more sophisticated than NISA if you read academic journals about them or Harun Maruf's book you realize they are not the run of the mill group in Somalia. Their intelligence agency is more competent than NISA and they infiltrated every facet of Somali society. Fahad Yasin isn't part of Shabaab he just makes money off of the insecurity. I think it's more down to incompetence and greed.

they have infiltrated the fgs
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