Somali Leftists
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Nilotic
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I agree.
The electoral college is the primary reason the Republicans are still contenders in the political environment.
The public in European democracies seem to be politically better informed and aware, but I think structural changes would be significantly more beneficial than having to rely on the public to make the right choice at every turn.
The structural changes I have in mind would remove the election of candidates at all levels of Government; people would only vote for platforms and policies and leave the implementation of the elected policies to technical experts, staff and civil servants in the Ministries and Departments of Government.
Elections (for candidates) are essentially just popularity contests in which the wealthiest, most charismatic, photogenic and over-promising demagogues vie for power.
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Apollo
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Majority of Somalis in the West vote leftwing, but do not hold the values of leftwing parties in the West, especially not when it comes to social issues or even on climate change many don't seem to care.
Most Muslims in the West are either centrists or outright conservatives at heart bribed by the Western Left with gibs, anti-racism protections, and loose immigration policies. If the left were to drop those issues (unlikely, but let's say hypothetically) then support for the left by Muslims in the West would quickly disappear.
Most Muslims in the West are either centrists or outright conservatives at heart bribed by the Western Left with gibs, anti-racism protections, and loose immigration policies. If the left were to drop those issues (unlikely, but let's say hypothetically) then support for the left by Muslims in the West would quickly disappear.
in the natural setting of things their is nothing like left or right their is just wrong or right. this are terms conjured up by exploiters to confuse the populace. what is right is equitable distribution of public resources and meritable competition on private resources with no limits. even god did not create people equally economically
and intellectually only morally and thats why he only judges the morals. even islam exhorts able people to work it does not encourage the hand that begs but it also created a welfare sysytem (baitul-mal) for the needy and weak. the current capitalist system malaise doesnt rest on the freedom of private capital which is completely right but on the unequal relation of labour and capital.
in the current system labour is rewarded well below its contribution
in what is joint venture between it and capital in production. what urgently needs to be revisited is the wage system. put more money in labours pocket and cut of corporate taxes completely and let labour pay for whatever services they need from their enlarged wages and cut the middleman and the big exploiter from the process. let them just sstick to defense and security .let all other service be run by private enterprise with a well paid population able to pay for themselves. government should just supervise and regulate, more like a referee. they have no business
in business.
and intellectually only morally and thats why he only judges the morals. even islam exhorts able people to work it does not encourage the hand that begs but it also created a welfare sysytem (baitul-mal) for the needy and weak. the current capitalist system malaise doesnt rest on the freedom of private capital which is completely right but on the unequal relation of labour and capital.
in the current system labour is rewarded well below its contribution
in what is joint venture between it and capital in production. what urgently needs to be revisited is the wage system. put more money in labours pocket and cut of corporate taxes completely and let labour pay for whatever services they need from their enlarged wages and cut the middleman and the big exploiter from the process. let them just sstick to defense and security .let all other service be run by private enterprise with a well paid population able to pay for themselves. government should just supervise and regulate, more like a referee. they have no business
in business.
Apollo
VIP
In the Netherlands they got a migrant focused political party because of the low barrier to entry (no 5% entrance barrier like in Germany, no first-past-the-post like the UK), and that migrant party is socially conservative + economically liberal. I think Scandinavian countries will eventually also have these types of parties, Muslims breaking away from the white left.
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DENK (political party) - Wikipedia
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The majority of somalis are poor so they are mostly in the left, at least those living in the west.
Sweden is finishedIn the Netherlands they got a migrant focused political party because of the low barrier to entry (no 5% entrance barrier like in Germany, no first-past-the-post like the UK), and that migrant party is socially conservative + economically liberal. I think Scandinavian countries will eventually also have these types of parties, Muslims breaking away from the white left.
DENK (political party) - Wikipedia
Rest of the world left. American leftism isn't real leftism.
bidenkulaha
GalYare
I am Centre-Left. My political idol is Tony Blair. Inshallah Starmer brings Labour back to a serious party
Nilotic
VIP
The Case Against Democracy
If most voters are uninformed, who should make decisions about the public’s welfare?
Periplus, that piece speaks to your earlier post about ignorance in the electorate; I honestly think that it's worst in Africa -- especially with the interplay of tribal and clan identities.
I don't think we should have candidates for positions of power that are voted in by the public anywhere in Africa.
We should replace the entire electoral system with sortition and Citizens Assemblies -- jury-duty applied to politics.
Even in regard to my proposal that 'general' elections should be contingent on policies... it shouldn't be an exercise in which millions of people take part; every municipality, county and State should each contribute 99 members in the form of Citizens Assemblies...
..It would be significantly easier to properly inform 99 members in Citizen Assemblies of the details of each policy proposal with the help of experts and policy representatives.
There are problems with Citizens Assemblies in their current form, but if properly attuned, randomly selected and made enforceable... they can replace 'general elections'.
Assembly members should be representative; guaranteed to be randomly selected; should be retained; and should be substantially compensated for their civic duty.
This sortition and Citizens Assembly system would remove career politicians and political parties from parliament altogether; there would be no more sham elections and lifetime 'Presidents'.
Psychopathy in politicians
Research Suggests Politicians are More Likely to Be Psychopaths
Several of the characteristics that define a psychopath also correspond to the traits that make for effective leaders. For politicians, this is true
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Abdisamad
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Nilotic
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No I’m being real, libs and conservatives and evil af. I thought liberals were good till I did research on them, they act all pro-women pro-refugee pro-muslim, but they are evil. You know how the romans fell? And the greeks? That’s how the liberals want everyone to fall. They going the same route. They claim to be all benevolent and shit but pass 1 billion+ Bills to israel to continue bombing palestine then say they want to help third workd countries but all they talk about is climate change (what they caused not us poor countries
You're wildin
) and promoting lgbt to poor uneducated oppressed and dying people. Like what happened to end poverty? Education? Women’s rights? Equality? Good leadership?
Nilotic
VIP
No I’m being real, libs and conservatives and evil af. I thought liberals were good till I did research on them, they act all pro-women pro-refugee pro-muslim, but they are evil. You know how the romans fell? And the greeks? That’s how the liberals want everyone to fall. They going the same route. They claim to be all benevolent and shit but pass 1 billion+ Bills to israel to continue bombing palestine then say they want to help third workd countries but all they talk about is climate change (what they caused not us poor countries
I get where you're coming from.
Leftists and Liberals are different and are opposed to each other; Leftists dislike Liberals for precisely the reasons you outlined.
Liberals support U.S. and Western imperialism; they support forever wars; they support funding wealthy, right-wing States like Israel; they support dictators in the global South; they support the Wall-Street-Washington consensus. Leftists are opposed to all of these things.
Leftist social ideology is detrimental in general. Murdering babies and calling it “choice”, forcing women into the same bathroom as men under the guise of protecting trans, interfering with how parents discipline their kids etc. Look at what leftist ideology has done to the black community in America. The government and non-profit organizations have replaced Tyrone as the father figure in 75% of black households
As for the economy, I’m cool with government stimulating the economy by providing benefits to people. I’m also in favour of entrepreneurs competing with one another and the consumer being the ultimate judge. Against corruption and cronyism obviously
As for the economy, I’m cool with government stimulating the economy by providing benefits to people. I’m also in favour of entrepreneurs competing with one another and the consumer being the ultimate judge. Against corruption and cronyism obviously
Farax I need a local Minneapolis friend. I live in Uptown. Come be my friend in real life. I'm sad I we lost Amirah.
60m people with brains voted for a guy who thought windmills caused cancer. The people on the other end of the spectrum are not much better
Man the Admin sure knows how to choose intelligent people for Staff. All staff are intelligent including Abdi Gaal Doon. Good thing this ain't a dumb or dead Somali forum. You staff people have amazing grammar and English so I know y'all educated. I was almost born in America and my grammar and writing still suck lolIn the Netherlands they got a migrant focused political party because of the low barrier to entry (no 5% entrance barrier like in Germany, no first-past-the-post like the UK), and that migrant party is socially conservative + economically liberal. I think Scandinavian countries will eventually also have these types of parties, Muslims breaking away from the white left.
DENK (political party) - Wikipedia
Leftism was good back in the days but now it's becoming authoritarian and anti nature.
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