Bucur Bucayr or Maxamed xaniif ( Maḥamed ḥaniif ) .
Why was he referred to as Maḥamed Xaniif?
What does Xaniif signify?
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Why was he referred to as Maḥamed Xaniif?
What does Xaniif signify?
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Seems like you know so why don’t you tell us.
Now we claiming banu isreal
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و ل د ( w - l - d ) in Arabic means to beget / gave birth .
י־ל־ד ( y-l-d ) in Hebrew means to beget / gave birth .
dhalay (dh-l-y ) in Somali means to beget / gave birth .
dhal + y = dhalay ( dh-l-y ) ↔ yadhal ( y -dh- l ) .
y ↔ w .
y ↔ k / g .
so :
( y-b-r : yibir) ↔ ( w-b-r : wabar) ↔ ( k-b-r : kabīr ) .
ك - ب -ر ↔ و - ب -ر ↔ ي - ب -ر
yawar / yiwir / yibir / yabar / wabar / kabīr : means chief or great person .
or could means the one who slaughter .
in Somali biree → bireey means : to slaughter .
bireey ( b-r-y ) ↔ yibiree ( y -b- r ) .
more details when I have time.
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Riftvalley
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Saw that recently, looks like straight-up cap or some guy back home tryna cash in. Pretty sure the author didn’t even make a cent. If there were Jews, they were probably Yemenite and dipped when Israel was founded. Crypto-Jews in Somalia? Cmon bro. No synagogues, no rabbis, no way to even learn Judaism. Still, the idea of Abdi going home and lighting up Jewish candles is funny
Balcaam was an Israelite Rabbi who betrayed the army of Musa A.S.
Bucur story is similar to other Somali stories of the medieval era; those of tyrant rulers/chiefs who were practicing some unislamic sexual acts and sorcery.
The time frame given for the encounter between Sheikh Yusuf is roughly 830 years. Remnants of Yibir still went around until recently collecting Samanya gifts and blessing the new born. I believe in the south they are known by a different name. Somalis say the gifts are given as a compensation for their leader, but they also fear being cursed by the Yibir, which lends itself to the theory of them having performed a previously similar role to the Ibiire of the Rendille.
When you consider that Somalis up north and near Harar still remember Bucur Bayr and his grave is still marked, as well as that of the sheikh; that, the stories are known as far as the south; then, to me it becomes clear this is an event which occurred in the early medieval period as the locals claim. The local stories never mention about Jews or biblical stories: it was always a practitioner of paganism going against a local saint in the Middle Ages.
My personal opinion is that Bucur Bcayer might have been killed by one of the local sultanates at the time or followers of sheikh Yusuf. I think it marked a watershed moment when a practitioner or a synchroniser of Islam and waaqism was killed and their influenced ended. Somalis probably still give gifts as the people of were probably scared of the generational curse of the Yibir (clans with the ability to curse and bless still exist in Rendille religion as we have said previously).
The other important factor in the role of Yibir in Somali society is the use of sticks. They perform a trick with blessed sticks and this how people recognised them when they visit their homes. Sticks and special trees are a relic from our north East African heritage. They are important elements of Rendille and Oromo ceremonies and religions.
You also have the fact the author Futuh al Habasha must have travelled these lands (north west Somali territories), as did other Arab authors. None of them mentioned the practice of Judaism by any tribes or groups during the medieval period. I highly doubt they would have missed the practice of Judaism in the heartland of the Adal sultanate. There was probably a few ancient practitioners of Judaism, possibly traders who came to visit but I highly doubt it was even entire clans or that substantial. I lean more towards the idea orthodox Christianity was more of a minority religion in the past in certain corners. There is no real archeological or historical evidence showing Torah practice being prevalent in Somalia.
Folks are literally running within an unrelated etymology of a word to make grand claims.
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Notice the similarity between the two names :
بَعِيْر and بَعُور
Bacayr ( بَعِيْر ) in the Somali story : بَ عِ يْ ر
Bacuur ( بَعُور ) in the Biblical story : بَ عُ و ر
The Somali story of Bucur Bacayr ( بُعُرْ بَعِيْر ), equivalent to Balaam son of Beor "Bacuur" ( بَلْعَام ابْن بَعُور ) in the Judeo-biblical tradition, emanates from the sacred texts and the religious context long present in the region.
These are man-made stories and myths that exist in various human cultures.
Zeus Fighting Typhon and trapping Typhon in a mountain :
A confrontation between Zeus and Typhon, the greatest destructive monster, who was called Typhon. Typhon won the first round, while Zeus returned and regained his strength and threw his spear at Mount Etna on the Italian island of Sicily, imprisoning Typhon in the mountain .
I am a keen scholar of Afro-Asiatic languages, comparative religions and mythologies, and I am not an amateur.
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Somali verbs are conjugated primarily by suffix conjugations, although a small group of verbs use prefixes for conjugation.
tag → tagay is suffix conjugation in Somali .
bax → baxay is suffix conjugation in Somali .
Theoretically, the verbs (tag) and (bax) could be conjugated by prefixes :
tag → yatag is Prefix conjugation .
bax → yabax is Prefix conjugation .
While a small group of verbs in Somali are Prefix conjugation such as:
aqoon → yaqaan is Prefix conjugation in Somali .
tag → tagay is normally a suffix conjugation in Somali.
So if we use prefixes for the conjugation of the Somali verb ( tag ) , we obtain :
tag → yatag ( Prefix Conjugation ) as in most of Afroasiatic languages .
Therefore :
biree → bireey is normally suffix conjugation in Somali .
So if we use prefixes for the conjugation of the Somali verb ( biree ) , we obtain :
biree → yabiree is Prefix conjugation as a small group of verbs in Somali are the conjugation of the prefix.
Yibir could means the one who slaughter .
in Somali biree → bireey means : to slaughter .
bireey ( b-r-y ) ↔ yibiree ( y -b- r ) .
tag → tagay is suffix conjugation in Somali .
bax → baxay is suffix conjugation in Somali .
Theoretically, the verbs (tag) and (bax) could be conjugated by prefixes :
tag → yatag is Prefix conjugation .
bax → yabax is Prefix conjugation .
While a small group of verbs in Somali are Prefix conjugation such as:
aqoon → yaqaan is Prefix conjugation in Somali .
tag → tagay is normally a suffix conjugation in Somali.
So if we use prefixes for the conjugation of the Somali verb ( tag ) , we obtain :
tag → yatag ( Prefix Conjugation ) as in most of Afroasiatic languages .
Therefore :
biree → bireey is normally suffix conjugation in Somali .
So if we use prefixes for the conjugation of the Somali verb ( biree ) , we obtain :
biree → yabiree is Prefix conjugation as a small group of verbs in Somali are the conjugation of the prefix.
Yibir could means the one who slaughter .
in Somali biree → bireey means : to slaughter .
bireey ( b-r-y ) ↔ yibiree ( y -b- r ) .
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