Somali identitarian is the future

[sigmund]

I totally agree we shouldnt be racist for absolute no reason unless ofcoure there is a reason but shouldnt go drastic for example display pictures of lynching etc

 

[Noble-Cushite]

Hey @admin can you change my username to Nobel-Cushite

 

[AVD]

Yeah I agree. Somalis are not superior to other human beings. Allah made all of us from the same ancestors. Our Deen also prohibits racial hatred and discrimination.

But I only care about my Somali people, other races be damned. I want to see our stolen lands returned to us and a 100% ethnic Somali homeland. It’s not wrong to want to preserve your people. Multiculturalism doesn’t work. We can’t have Arabs or Bantus in our country.

It’s a dog eats dog world. We have to look after ourselves.

How do you go about achieving a 100% ethnic Somali homeland while also not discriminating based on race?

 

[Ras]

Once we deal with the "Bantu question" what's next?

We'll be fighting over who's clan can be considered Somali.

Do we base it on language, genealogy (gd luck) or oral history?

 

[CaliSomali]

How do you go about achieving a 100% ethnic Somali homeland while also not discriminating based on race?

The Bantus in the south plus the Yemenis and Oromos in the north need to be shipped out. It’s either us or them.

 

[AVD]

The Bantus in the south plus the Yemenis and Oromos in the north need to be shipped out. It’s either us or them.

Yeah I agree. Somalis are not superior to other human beings. Allah made all of us from the same ancestors. Our Deen also prohibits racial hatred and discrimination.

But I only care about my Somali people, other races be damned. I want to see our stolen lands returned to us and a 100% ethnic Somali homeland. It’s not wrong to want to preserve your people. Multiculturalism doesn’t work. We can’t have Arabs or Bantus in our country.

It’s a dog eats dog world. We have to look after ourselves.

You just said it was against your religion to discriminate?

 

[Life]

Nothing wrong with feeling superior. I don't believe that everyone is equal. I don't know how to explain, but I will try. I look at it like a list that has all of our names on it. There is always going to be someone over you and someone under you. Meaning that there are people in the world that are better than you but also people you are better then. That's how I view it, not sure if my example was understandable.

And just because you feel superior doesn't it mean that you have to be racist it just means that you feel better and more valuable to other. You can still be kind. It's like being rich. just because you are rich doesn't it mean that you automatically have to treat poor people bad. In fact, you can respect them and treat them good, but still knowing your place.

Somalia should be for Somalis. I am not for complete annexation of foreigners, non-Somalis. I think that if someone plays an important asset and contribute economically to the country then they should be able to stay.

 

[CaliSomali]

You just said it was against your religion to discriminate?

I meant on a personal basis. I would never slander or discriminate against an Arab or a Bantu in my day to day life.

But Somalis have a right to our own land that we’ve been inhabiting for centuries. Yemenis have Yemen, Oromos have Oromia, and the Bantus already have most of the African continent ffs. Why can’t we have Greater Somalia with no demographic threats?

 

[AVD]

I meant on a personal basis. I would never slander or discriminate against an Arab or a Bantu in my day to day life.

But Somalis have a right to our own land that we’ve been inhabiting for centuries. Yemenis have Yemen, Oromos have Oromia, and the Bantus already have most of the African continent ffs. Why can’t we have Greater Somalia with no demographic threats?

How would you feel if white nationalist replaced Somalis for Whites in your reply and the government actually shipped you off back to Somalia? This is another level of hypocrisy, most of you are living in the West and speaking like this. It makes no sense.

 

[Kurolady08]

I think you guys should check into libertarianism. It is the only political organization which respects you as a unique and responsible individual. Our slogan is that we are “The Partyof Principle”, because we stand firmly on our principles. Libertarians strongly oppose any government interference into their personal, family, and business decisions.

 

[The alchemist]

I think you guys should check into libertarianism. It is the only political organization which respects you as a unique and responsible individual. Our slogan is that we are “The Partyof Principle”, because we stand firmly on our principles. Libertarians strongly oppose any government interference into their personal, family, and business decisions.

That will not work in a underdeveloped country like somalia with hard headed stubborn people. First we need a system that can get us out of this problem, and the free market does not have a solution to the problem. Collectivism is the solution, look at South Korea after the war.

 

[CaliSomali]

How would you feel if white nationalist replaced Somalis for Whites in your reply and the government actually shipped you off back to Somalia? This is another level of hypocrisy, most of you are living in the West and speaking like this. It makes no sense.

I live in America. This land does not belong to whites.

And let’s say the cadaans do ship all of us back to Somalia. I would have no problem with that if they stopped meddling in our affairs. They need to leave Africa first before they think about expelling us from the West.

I plan on moving back to Somalia in the near future anyway. Don’t you worry.

What’s your deal anyways? Do you think we should let everyone pour into Somalia or something?

 

[The alchemist]

How would you feel if white nationalist replaced Somalis for Whites in your reply and the government actually shipped you off back to Somalia? This is another level of hypocrisy, most of you are living in the West and speaking like this. It makes no sense.

That is unfair comparison. The western countries have already established their dominion in every part of human society and don't lack anything. But somalia needs to build it's national spirit from the ground up and become more unitary. Personaly i don't believe in shiping people off the country like ethnic cleansing, but i think we should control our borders and have more thorough border system like the chniese. We are currently too weak to be having any demographical shift at the moment. But when we become prominent like the western counties, then we can let other peole in, becase then we have the dominant presence.

 

[Kurolady08]

That will not work in a underdeveloped country like somalia with hard headed stubborn people. First we need a system that can get us out of this problem, and the free market does not have a solution to the problem. Collectivism is the solution, look at South Korea after the war.

I think socialism would do that and ten times worse. I think a small limited government with a strong constitution, like a revamped version of xeer would work better. Maybe let the clans work like states in the USA. Free market is our best friend, due to the country being 60 percent are self employed. But for to work, sharia law and al Shabaab have to go. It seems like the Somali government has something similar to crony capitalism which is an economy in which businesses thrive not as a result of risk, but rather as a return on money amassed through a nexus between a business class and the political class, but clans and religious leaders instead.

 

[James Dahl]

Nationalism is a hell of a drug

 

[Ape]

I think socialism would do that and ten times worse. I think a small limited government with a strong constitution, like a revamped version of xeer would work better. Maybe let the clans work like states in the USA. Free market is our best friend, due to the country being 60 percent are self employed. But for to work, sharia law and al Shabaab have to go. It seems like the Somali government has something similar to crony capitalism which is an economy in which businesses thrive not as a result of risk, but rather as a return on money amassed through a nexus between a business class and the political class, but clans and religious leaders instead.

Capitalism wont work. We have oil and the jubba and shabele. By exploiting the countries resources under a tight and strict (gaddafi) like government, we can build free schools for any somali and healthcare. Nomads must be taught that grazing causes soil damage .nationalism and pride must be taught to youngsters at a young age and qabilist behaviour be punishable by the rope. TV should be government owned along with tight internet restrictions.


The reason i say this is because somali people are thick skulled nacases. They must wake up and smell the coffee. Im telling you know, capitalism only works on united and progressive people like germans. Not low iq somalis.

 

[Apollo]

I think you guys should check into libertarianism. It is the only political organization which respects you as a unique and responsible individual. Our slogan is that we are “The Partyof Principle”, because we stand firmly on our principles. Libertarians strongly oppose any government interference into their personal, family, and business decisions.

Rightwing Libertarianism is crap (Leftwing libertarianism exists, but is less common). Libertarian policies help white people too much (keeps their socioeconomic dominance). Somalis in the West should strategically support leftwing parties as they are in their best interest.

 

[The alchemist]

I think socialism would do that and ten times worse. I think a small limited government with a strong constitution, like a revamped version of xeer would work better. Maybe let the clans work like states in the USA. Free market is our best friend, due to the country being 60 percent are self employed. But for to work, sharia law and al Shabaab have to go. It seems like the Somali government has something similar to crony capitalism which is an economy in which businesses thrive not as a result of risk, but rather as a return on money amassed through a nexus between a business class and the political class, but clans and religious leaders instead.

Yes, but a small government can't get rid of sharia law and al shabaab. And the second and most important thing is, we need to get rid of any clan affiliation connecting to the political spher, the power is unbalanced, and for a healthy economy to funchtion we need to enforce a system of merit. The economy is a very good thing to focus on, but we need to change fundamental problems in our culture, and crack down on corruption and affiliation between clans and political figuers. No coherent system can work in this unproductive manner. The state needs to fufill many actions and establish certain factors before we can even talk of liberatarien views, which is very flawed in my opinion. A social democracy would be the best system, but in somalia we need more of a nationalistic system. Certain problems can only be solved with the state, and the marked would not solve things like income inequality or global warming because it does not have an incentive to fix the externalities. The market is just a profit driven system, and does not care for humans well being, only to maximize profit. I persoally don't see much problem in that, but we need the state to regulate certain issues to adjust the economy to get an equilibrium so thing don't go out of hand.

 

[Kurolady08]

Yes, but a small government can't get rid of sharia law and al shabaab. And the second and most important thing is, we need to get rid of any clan affiliation connecting to the political spher, the power is unbalanced, and for a healthy economy to funchtion we need to enforce a system of merit. The economy is a very good thing to focus on, but we need to change fundamental problems in our culture, and crack down on corruption and affiliation between clans and political figuers. No coherent system can work in this unproductive manner. The state needs to fufill many actions and establish certain factors before we can even talk of liberatarien views, which is very flawed in my opinion. A social democracy would be the best system, but in somalia we need more of a nationalistic system. Certain problems can only be solved with the state, and the marked would not solve things like income inequality or global warming because it does not have an incentive to fix the externalities. The market is just a profit driven system, and does not care for humans well being, only to maximize profit. I persoally don't see much problem in that, but we need the state to regulate certain issues to adjust the economy to get an equilibrium so thing don't go out of hand.

Socialism is riddled with atheism and the feminization of men. Look at the black American community, since welfare programs can more into play, the more single motherhood went up. The women are now married to the government. What is needed egalitarianism. Socialism only works short term. Also, the left is very anti nationalist. Most likely they only want socialism for the country as in pan africanism type.

 

[The alchemist]

Socialism is riddled with atheism and the feminization of men. Look at the black American community, since welfare programs can more into play, the more single motherhood went up. The women are now married to the government. What is needed egalitarianism. Socialism only works short term. Also, the left is very anti nationalist. Most likely they only want socialism for the country as in pan africanism type.

What are you talking about? Please don't come with these crazy ideas. Scandinavian countries are egalitarian social-deomacracies, japan also. They are also all capitalist countries. Welfare didn't ruin the black american life in the us, now you are just using right-wing talkingpoints. It is impossible to reach egalitarianism with a free un-regulated market.