Somali Hate Un-Orthodox Politics

DR OSMAN

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The average Somali you see are very simple. They see politics in two lights.

1. 1960 Somalia with a nice democracy and Somalinimo unity and one government
2. 1980 Somalia with a strong president and weak institutions and regions plus Somalinimo unity

They have been in this 'round robbin' circle for 30 years and even though it shows no fruitful outcome and they're lives are not changing for the better, the average Somali cannot think outside this 'context'. Anything new or un-tied is 'viewed' with suspicion or considered un-orthodox.

I mean why you think @embarassing dismisses everything I propose? it's not because the actual proposal is un-workable as she doesn't criticize that, she criticizes me as 'unorthodox' and therefore refers to my mental illness in order to delegitimatize any solution I provide. Sometimes you need to be un-orthodox in your solution especially when you know the orthodox style of politics(somalinimo, hal dawlad, hal luqad, hal diin) has failed these people and is simply not showing any 'gains' locally.

Time is ticking but we have barely moved an inch in comparison. Considering the amount of governments we had, donor funds, tax funds, and all the Somali people 'will' for a restored nation is never delivered, this leads some to look at the Somali matter from a 'different' angle which may be un-orthodox or not 'pallatable' for the Somali psyche.

For example when I refer to Galmudug solution as a region that would operate better as a non-govt territory and under a 'treaty' this may seem un-orthodox but can you propose anything else to work. Surely not a government they attempted that for nearly 30 years and leads to 'blood-shed' or '3 governments'.

Repeating the cycle isn't going to produce a different result. These people were at 'peace' for the most part of the civil war after PL made them sign a 'ceasefire agreement', this is a form of a 'security treaty' it seemed to keep the peace in the region untill guess what? they started to interfere in the region from mogadishu.

Anytime you suggest a government in this area, it leads to negative outcomes and why the international community supports this is unfair to the Galmudug citizen and people. If we propose a 'treaty' and declare it 'Tribal reserve', we can begin writing up the stipulations of the treaty of how this tribal reserve and the state will accommodate each other needs. This isn't the first time these type of treaties have been done, it's been done a long time where 'kingdoms or states' met un-governed people.

Even animals come under a 'govt ministry'. Does this mean animals need to have a 'state'? of course not, their still animals and can behave like one. We create 'zoos and reservation parks' for them and environmental ministers manage it based on their mandate.

The exact same can be done with GM managed as a recognized tribal reserve that falls under the 'treaty of tribal reserves'. Now essentially it's like an 'open air zoo' their not 'caged' in zoos but more similar to 'reserve parks'. They will live exactly how they lived 'stateless' but told to honor the treaty and if they have 'state' matter concern, they need to the 'environmental minister' assigned to animals, plants, trees, and yes you guessed it 'tribal reserve' areas. They are essentially no different to the wild-life that surrounds them, they exist in the same capacity.

I mean look at that 'dancing sufi' 'shakir' no offence he doesn't have an administration, parliament, he doesn't collect taxes, he doesn't provide basic services, he doesn't have a 'policy institute', he doesn't have a firm political view towards Somalia accept he is 'anti shabab'.

Shabab isn't a state actor their non state actors just like ahlul sunnah, it's like 1 gang saying I am opposed to another gang, that's all his polices are and then they revert back to 'sufi songs' on TV, knowing full well he is state less so why not accept a 'treaty' and save yourself the time, lives, and money into becoming a government. U will be better
managed under the SFG minister of environment and u can continue doing your sufi dances and songs on TV, then PL/JL iyo inta 'dawladnimo' leh will have a state to state relationship with the Federal govt.

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They accepted to join the modern world, if you haven't, it's up to you but you need to fall under some sort of treatise nothing in the nation is allowed to exist in a 'vacuum' not even animals. So I agree my views may sound 'kaftan' or 'wild', but I dare you propose it in any Somali setting if a 'galmudug reserve' is a viable solution so the rest of the nation can move on iyaguna way naga nabad heli karan. It's a win win for all.
 
Brother, I don't dismiss anything you propose because I usually don't bother to read it. I have certainly never referenced your mental illness to insult or delegitimize you.

Im simply not interested in interacting with your essays.

Find someone else to tag everyday, I suggest maybe Teeri or Cog.
 

DR OSMAN

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I am of the un-orthodox policy position of 'somali oo kala nidaam leh ayaa loo bahan yahay'. Somali oo hal nidaam leh ma shaqayn karto waxay keenaysa isku dhac kale iyo muran iyo wax ba iga maqan nonsense. A Somali that has different systems yet federal govt that accomodates these different regions is what we need, we don't need to force down their throat our policies or views. The will of a 'few' cannot change a whole regions 'will', you just wasting your time. All we can do is 'assess' each region and apply the correct 'policy' and remove the emotions(love or hate) but complete 'stocism'.
 

DR OSMAN

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@embarassing if my essay were pro khayre I am sure u wud read it, your not about bettering Somalia, your simply about Kheyre and hoping u can swindle in a few afar-qoble contracts, how long u think this backward nepotism is going to 'exist' ? you think ppl r stupid? u r like that murusade chick who thinks she 'won' but everyone in the 'room' is laffing just watching u make a 'fool' of yourself.

Now let me go back and join Sheikh Shakir and his sufi gang for a few years getting my groove on while 'America are exploring Mars' and @PhySom @Teeri-Alpha are starting to enter the 'information century' and wanting 'data' looooooooool at least their now in the 'right century'.

Now let me step back to the 15th century and god dammit get me that SUFI chanting choir, shirka waa dhusomareeb and we will call it 'waqtiga aan iska qaadno'

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DR OSMAN

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@DR OSMAN drink some water take a hot shower and get some sleep. Genuine advice.

Sister I lost all respect for u because I remember hamar in 98, those ppl were under warlords, they woke, ate, sleep, and waited for al-barakaat and 'jaad time' houses lacked electricity and used kerosene lamps, ppl toilets didnt flush cuz HG looted the pipes.

The women worked the small markets selling khat and stuff, that's all there was. Yet you are saying these people 'wa dad fican' too me, that's when I dismissed u because u don't know the 'real hawiye' ana soo arkay oo 6 months la joggay, that's why I will never go back again 'rajo' kama gabi dadkasi, they don't change OVERNIGHT sister.

Manta inaad cayso regionka dawladnimo ku keenay, has caused me never to respect a damn word u ever say from now on. Go to galmudug that is identical to hamar in 98, they were controlling the southern portion of the city xad ayaana uu taalay saleban/cayr/sacad, they turned it into like dhusomareeb and baraxlay. Wallahi been igama ah, ask any somali who remembers. They extorted everything in the town and never delivered ONE ROAD, NOT EVEN 'BARIIS'
 
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