somali diaspora goes in about 4.5 and qabils

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Lol i think allot of somali diasporas are becomimg more obsessed with somali politics back home i dont know if that is a good thing but we will see.

 

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https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/SO_971222_CairoDeclaration.pdf
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4.5 waxaa la isku raacay 1997 cairo peace conference. waxaana saxiixay aidid junior omar haji masale abdullahi yusuf ali mahdi omar jess osman ato jama mohamed ghalib iyo more people.
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4.5 waxaa la isku raacay 1997 cairo peace conference. waxaana saxiixay aidid junior omar haji masale abdullahi yusuf ali mahdi omar jess osman ato iyo more people.
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It was orchestrated by IOG in Carta conference Djibouti 2000 which explains over representation of the Dir within 4.5

After all IOG was looking after his own people.
 
What representation do dir have? They have the least seats
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Dir live primarily in Ethiopia (Issa & Sameroon) they have small populations extending into Somalia. By far the largest concentration of Dir in Somalia is located in Awdal. In all other regions (Bari, Mudug, Shabelle's, Hiraan Juba's & Gedo) they're a minority. Nearly 80% of Dir within Somalia are Isaaq at the same time they're awarded 30 seats instead of 45-50.




Issa moved to Djibouti in droves. They are no longer a majority in Zeila district of Awdal. Yet somehow they're awarded 8 seats despite barely existing in Somalia anymore. Meanwhile a large clan like Habar Yoonis who live in 4 of Somalia's 18 regions with big numbers are awarded 6 seats under 4.5


Issa lives in Zeila district. Awarded 8 seats.

HY lives in Hargiesa, Berbera, Shiekh, Oodweyn, Burco, Ceel Afweyn, Ceerigaabo and Xudun. Awarded 6 seats.

4.5 distributes seats based on equity within clans not their supposed population.
 
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Look how the ancient greece went from tribal to city state. romans like to copy from encient greece and U.S likes to copy from romans. We somalis didnt went through that transformation, instead we are suddenly required to be a citizens. As somalia gets richers in the future inshallah, more and more people will be better off not require his tribal member in help which the association with tribe will go down. is chicken-egg problem, to be better off we need less qabil, but you only achieve that once you are better off. So is going to be a constant struggle promoting anti-trabilism. That being said, moryaans and alshabab need their chair so that they feel "represented" so that they become more a yakuza mafias than uga buga 68 iq criminals.




yakuza:
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somali yakuzas:
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mr steal your naag

banu hashim and shiettt
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Look how the ancient greece went from tribal to city state. romans like to copy from encient greece and U.S likes to copy from romans. We somalis didnt went through that transformation, instead we are suddenly required to be a citizens. As somalia gets richers in the future inshallah, more and more people will be better off not require his tribal member in help which the association with tribe will go down. is chicken-egg problem, to be better off we need less qabil, but you only achieve that once you are better off. So is going to be a constant struggle promoting anti-trabilism. That being said, moryaans and alshabab need their chair so that they feel "represented" so that they become more a yakuza mafias than uga buga 68 iq criminals.




yakuza:
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somali yakuzas:
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I have said this before and iam gonna say it again. The biggest crime siad barre ever committed was not spending 65% of the budget on education especially in baadiyo:ohno:
 
I have said this before and iam gonna say it again. The biggest crime siad barre ever committed was not spending 65% of the budget on education especially in baadiyo:ohno:
Education is waste of money depending on what stage you at developing. They are long term invesement and they are quite expensive too.

However, in somalia, we need to make out budget 50% education and with a anti-qabil propogranda. this way we have set a minimum standard and if the nation fails again, we know this time we not gonna have the 1991 shitshow again.
 
It was orchestrated by IOG in Carta conference Djibouti 2000 which explains over representation of the Dir within 4.5

After all IOG was looking after his own people.
Dir are actually under represented in 4.5 where Daroods and Hawiye are over represented in that system since Hawiye and Darood warlords where the ones where the conference was focused on to bring stabilization in Somalia's politics while Somaliland boycotted the talks except Dhulbahante and Warsangeli who sent their delegates in Carta.

4.5 system I believe should have been temporary one until the country can rebuild its institution with new ratified constitution and transitioning the nation into 1v1p elections unfortunately still not known when will that ever happen.
 

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