So it turns out somalis are the true Israelites

[World]

actually it's the Ethiopians that's where you find jews today

Ethiopian and Yemeni Jews are converts, not Israelites.

Ethiopian Jews = standard Horn of African.

Yemeni Jews = Yemenis without the 20-25~ % Bantu admixture that the Muslims have.

 

[landheer]

Ethiopian and Yemeni Jews are converts, not Israelites.

Ethiopian Jews = standard Horn of African.

Yemeni Jews = Yemenis without the 20-25~ % Bantu admixture that the Muslims have.

Why are yemenite jews swarthier than arab yemenis?

 

[World]

Why are yemenite jews swarthier than arab yemenis?

I don't know anything about Yemenis, just know that Yemeni and Ethiopian Jews are converts.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

Ethiopian and Yemeni Jews are converts, not Israelites.

Ethiopian Jews = standard Horn of African.

Yemeni Jews = Yemenis without the 20-25~ % Bantu admixture that the Muslims have.

Ethiopian Jews may not even be Semites but Agews who became very strict about following the old testament.

 

[landheer]

Ethiopian Jews may not even be Semites but Agews who became very strict about following the old testament.

I thought that was common knowledge they are merely agaws that adopted judaism there are no 'real' semites in ethiopia.

 

[World]

Ethiopian Jews may not even be Semites but Agews who became very strict about following the old testament.

They are Agews, there aren't any true Semites(genetically) in the Horn of Africa. Even Amharas/Tigrays are over 90 % Agew, and only have 4-5 % more ME in them.

 

[landheer]

They are Agews, there aren't any true Semites(genetically) in the Horn of Africa. Even Amharas/Tigrays are over 90 % Agew, and only have 4-5 % more ME in them.

Many cadcad are 70%+ arab I consider these to be true semites.

 

[World]

Many cadcad are 70%+ arab I consider these to be true semites.

Don't think I've seen Cad Cads score higher than 30 % recent Middle Eastern. They also have 20 ~ % South Asian.

This seems to describe them:

(that makes them like 30-33 % black)

 

[landheer]

Don't think I've seen Cad Cads score higher than 30 % recent Middle Eastern. They also have 20 ~ % South Asian.

This seems to describe them:


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(that makes them like 30-33 % black)

These guys lied to me they told me they were 85% arab 15% somali.

 

[World]

These guys lied to me they told me they were 85% arab 15% somali.

It's funny because their second most significant component after Somali is South Asian. Kkkk why dont they tell people theyre pakis instead of arab. And they're 7 % bantu, which is practically half of their arab ancestry.

 

[landheer]

It's funny because their second most significant component after Somali is South Asian. Kkkk why dont they tell people theyre pakis instead of arab. And they're 7 % bantu, which is practically half of their arab ancestry.

They are so racist to bantus they will get depression if they hear this.

 

[Grant]

I thought that was common knowledge they are merely agaws that adopted judaism there are no 'real' semites in ethiopia.

Eldad the Danite is even mentioned in the Bible.

"As mentioned, genetic evidence—as best introduced by Entine in Abraham’s Children (2007)— has already demonstrated that the group maintains an ancient descent that traces all the way back to the mid-first millennium CE (Entine, 2013; Saey, 2010; Ostrer, 2012). As someone who is of East African descent, I argue that the African ethnicity of the Beta Israel appears to be more complex than just Ethiopian."

"The observed phenotypes of the Beta Israel-Ethiopian Jews today strongly reflect the features of the riverine Northern Sudanese populations. To a lesser proportion, they reflect the phenotypes commonly found among the mainstream Habash-Abyssinian populations of what is today northern Ethiopia. Contrary to the argument that propose the Beta Israel to have originated from Agaw converts (Ezer, 2003, p. 27; Ullendorff, 1968), only a minority of the population today displays distinguishable Agaw features—i.e. large and deep-set eyes, notably thin eye-brows, and the usual dark complexion but with a unique smooth-yellowish tone. This may indicate that intermarriage with the Agaw was limited."

"In conclusion, historical indications overwhelmingly suggest that the intermixture of the Beta Israel with surrounding populations was spontaneous, inconsistent and infrequent. Evidence suggests that the traditional theory, which attributes the origin of the Beta Israel to Abyssinia’s Christian society, is unreliable. Evidence also suggests that the Beta Israel originated from Jews who migrated from Kush to Aksum sometime between the first and fourth century CE. It was this Jewish community that was exiled from Aksum to the Semien and Tana areas in the sixth century by King Kaleb that ultimately produced the Beta Israel society. Accordingly, the group’s identity has historically conformed to an ethno-religious Israelite-Jewish-ayhud context in the simplest and most direct manner."

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/...-jewish-roots-of-beta-israel-ethiopian-jewry/

"Here, it should be noted that the name Ethiopia in ancient times referred to the civilization of Kush in northern Sudan, not to Aksum in today’s Ethiopia. (This complexity in usage led to great confusion among scholars in the past [i.e. Omer, 2013].) Hence, Claudius’ reference to the Aksumites, in the context of Ethiopia, may indicate that the Aksum area was in a subsidiary relationship to Kush. And although Claudius refers to the cities of Meroe and Adulis, he makes no mention of Aksum—neither as a city nor a kingdom.

Thus, in context of the historical, archeological, and geographical indications, it is reasonable to suggest that the first Jewish elements within Aksum trace to Kush. A number of accounts, including those provided in Beta Israel traditions suggest that the ancestors of the group arrived through the Nile Valley (Quirin, 2010, p. 23). As mentioned, Biblical passages, in addition to a number of extra-Biblical traditions, suggest an Israelite presence in Kush, particularly in Zephaniah 3:10 “From beyond the rivers of Cush [Kush] my worshipers, my scattered people, will bring me offerings” (New International Version). In addition to Eldad Ha-Dani, Obadiah of Bertinoro during the fifteenth century suggests that the spices sold by the Kushites “come from” (Abrahams & Montefiore, 1889) the Beta Israel, and Chief Rabbi David ibn Zimra of Egypt in the sixteenth century identifies the Beta Israel as the Jews from “the Land of Cush” (as cited in Bleich, 1977, p. 302).

After tedious research, Kessler (2012, p. 60) analyzes:

Scholars agree that the Jewish religion had a considerable following in the Axumite state before the time of King Ezana and as it is probable that there was a Jewish presence in the neighboring kingdom of Meroë with which Axum was in communication Jewish influences could have followed the well-worn routes across the border by way of the Blue Nile and Atbara rivers, while similar, though somewhat different, influences could also have penetrated from south Arabia and subsequently disappeared.

Thus, Jewish presence in Kush appears to predate the entry of the Jews in Aksum. By the time of their migration to Aksum, these Jews would have already exhibited the phenotypes of Northern Sudanese populations. This would explain the physical affinity between the Beta Israel today and the people of Northern Sudan, which will be discussed below.

Contacts with surrounding populations

The date for the departure of Jews from the Aksum area and their subsequent clustering in the Semien region is widely estimated to the early sixth century (Kaplan, 1995, p. 39). This date correlates with the reign of the fervent Christian king of Aksum Kaleb. Known for conducting wide scale conversions, church building, and anti-pagan campaigns, Kaleb’s relationship with Aksum’s Jewish population was probably restless. In 520, he waged a war against a Jewish king in South Arabia and overthrew him in favor of a Christian one. Dating to his reign, Cosmas writes (as cited in McCrindle, 1897, Book II): “As for the Semenai, where he says there are snows and ice, it is to that country the King of the Axômites expatriates any one whom he has sentenced to be banished.”

Kaplan (p. 39) speculates whether those “sentenced to be banished” were the Jews of Aksum. As mentioned, genetic research points to the establishment of the group in the mid-first millennium CE (Entine, 2013, p. 149; 2007; Saey, 2010, p. 13; Ostrer, 2012). Hence, at this point we have enough historical evidence, and correlative genetic indications, to suggest that the ancestral establishment of the contemporary Beta Israel goes back to the amalgamation of Jewish communities in the Semien and Tana regions sometime between fourth and sixth centuries CE (Omer, 2013). Thus, starting from the latter period, the banished Jews were transformed from scattered and fragmented Aksumite Jews into an ethnically, socially, and culturally integrated, yet fairly isolated, Beta Israel population.

The Semien areas of the Beta Israel may have been autonomous since the late sixth century; that is when the Aksumite kingdom lost its grip over its northern and western territories (see: Kobishchanov & Michels, 1979). Despite the attempts of the Beta Israel at restricting contacts with outsiders, intermarriage with surrounding pagan populations, in the western highlands, have probably occurred. According to some reports, the majority of western Agaw populations remained pagan until the sixteenth century (Abir, 1980, p. 161). Underdeveloped and decentralized, the pagans would have rarely intimidated the Beta Israel. Unlike the Christians who commonly perceived the Beta Israel as the crucifiers of Christ (“Journal,” 1994), pagan societies probably held no relevant perspective. In fact, there appear to have been a tendency among the church and royal authorities, during medieval times, to view the Beta Israel and pagans under one umbrella of heresy (Quirin, 1988; Kaplan, 1995, p. 61).

 

[Oday Sanaag]

fake news .he was married to a dir women or a amhara concubine from whom the hawiye slaved .

This is documented history I'm sorry if it hurts you

 

[World]

Eldad the Danite is even mentioned in the Bible.

"As mentioned, genetic evidence—as best introduced by Entine in Abraham’s Children (2007)— has already demonstrated that the group maintains an ancient descent that traces all the way back to the mid-first millennium CE (Entine, 2013; Saey, 2010; Ostrer, 2012). As someone who is of East African descent, I argue that the African ethnicity of the Beta Israel appears to be more complex than just Ethiopian."

I thought that perhaps he would actually provide genetic evidence after stating this.

"The observed phenotypes of the Beta Israel-Ethiopian Jews today strongly reflect the features of the riverine Northern Sudanese populations. To a lesser proportion, they reflect the phenotypes commonly found among the mainstream Habash-Abyssinian populations of what is today northern Ethiopia. Contrary to the argument that propose the Beta Israel to have originated from Agaw converts (Ezer, 2003, p. 27; Ullendorff, 1968), only a minority of the population today displays distinguishable Agaw features—i.e. large and deep-set eyes, notably thin eye-brows, and the usual dark complexion but with a unique smooth-yellowish tone. This may indicate that intermarriage with the Agaw was limited."

But nope, he just waffles on about some so called “Agaw phenotypes”.

Basically all bullshit and the reason he didn’t bring any genetic evidence is because Beta Israelis are just Agaw converts.

 

[Yaquub]

Who cares who the ancient Israelites were, any niggas today who are stibnorn as hell could be them. God sent more prophets to them Than to the whole of mankind and they still fucked up. f*ck them may he curse them eternally!!! Somali could really use a prophet right now to solve our ppl's ignorance.

 

[father of the camel]

we are not mentioned in any scripture or whatever. let's face it, we've been mostly irrelevant throughout history.

warya hada laaf yar tahay speak for yourself dont group us all together

 

[Shadow]

warya hada laaf yar tahay speak for yourself dont group us all together

Tell me about your great history

 

[father of the camel]

This is documented history I'm sorry if it hurts you

im already an uncle to two little half daroods .dont need to be abti to the whole darood .safe that desert science for a desert deweller .

 

[father of the camel]

Tell me about your great history

me and my people know our history .
we dont boast about it ,last thing we want is a laaf yarey to steal our history .

 

[Grant]

I thought that perhaps he would actually provide genetic evidence after stating this.


But nope, he just waffles on about some so called “Agaw phenotypes”.

Basically all bullshit and the reason he didn’t bring any genetic evidence is because Beta Israelis are just Agaw converts.

The raw data is in John Entines's Abraham's Children ( http://www.abrahamschildren.net/ ) which I listed, but which is not yet online. You have to buy the book. However, check out the distribution of haplotype"J", especially that 60% area in the Sudan.and the 30% across Eritrea and northern Ethiopia. Note also that E1b1b is a common Jewish haplotype also found frequently among the Falasha. Einstein was E1b1b. Those people got around.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Map...D#imgdii=6cSBca6fAdvG8M:&imgrc=BVHFNaLXknzxzM: