SL gives away their islands/coast to a random white guy because he promised ictiraaf and a pyramid

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Conned Again – How a Swedish Tombstone Salesman Acquired All of Somaliland's Islands under the Guise of Fake Marine Conservation.

On June 11, 2019, a high-level delegation of Somaliland Ministers consisting of the Minister of Environment and Rural Development, Ms. Shukri Haji Bandari, the Minister of Minerals and Energy Mr. Jama Egal and the Minister of Livestock and Fisheries development Mr. Hassan Mohamed Ali Gafadhi visited Sweden and met with members of the Swedish Parliament, community and business interests looking to invest in Somaliland.

The delegation’s visit got off to a rocky start when members of Somaliland’s community in Sweden accused the Somaliland Representative Mr. Zakaria Waes of facilitating a meeting with the ministers with members of Sweden’s far-right Sverigedemokraterna party and Mr. Mikael Thorstensson.

The most important aspect of the trip, however, was unknown to the public until early November, when Somaliland Representative in Sweden Mr. Zakaria Waes wrote on facebook to expect the airing of an important program on SVT. This was a 7-minute segment about a project known as Somaliland Marine Conservation Project.

Although the sequence of events surrounding the conservation project is unclear, there were two major events, a signing ceremony in Hargeisa and the project unveiling in Stockholm.

At a document signing ceremony in Hargeisa, Ministers Shukri and Gaafaadhi, Representative Waes and Skinnar provided some detail of what the project entails.

Mr. Gafadhi, who at the time was the Minister of Livestock and Fisheries Development spoke at this event stated that the conservation project will cover an area of at least 35% of Somaliland’s coast with a total ban on commercial foreign fishing.

The Minister of Environment Ms. Shukri who also spoke at the signing ceremony reiterated the importance of Somaliland’s marine resources but added that Somaliland’s all three Islands including the largest Sa’ada Diin will be part of this conservation project or agreement.
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Although some news reports have mentioned Swedish government involvement, we could not find any links between this project and the Swedish government.

Now, let’s look at the cast of characters involved in what could be the largest and perhaps least known agreement the Somaliland Government has entered since DP World Berbera port agreement.




Somaliland’s Representative Mr. Waes:
According to Somaliland Representative in Sweden Mr. Zakaria Waes, who we have spoken to at length for this story, the conservation project is part of Somaliland’s commitment to the sustainable development goals in the marine conservation sector and the fact that the Swedish National TV had an entire segment dedicated to Somaliland and the project could improve Somaliland’s image.

Mr. Waes stated that this could be the project that gets Somaliland noticed on the world stage and put it on the map. He added that the people working on this project, presumably Skinnar and Waller will walk our recognition papers into the tall building in New York, a reference to the UN headquarters in New York.

Asked if the project had the full support of the government of Somaliland, Mr. Weis repeated a statement he made on the SVT2 segment that the President of Somaliland, HE Muse Bihi Abdi himself had signed off on it.

Despite his unbridled enthusiasm, however, Mr. Waes seemed to have a tenuous grasp on the basic mechanics of the project and even though he mentioned investors a couple of times during our conversation with him, he did not provide details on how the investors will get their return on investment.


The Swedish Investors: Skinnar and Waller
Let’s start with Mr. Marcus Skinnar, an atypical fast-talking Swede with deep links to China and the owner of Edurus, a company that supplies tombstones to the Swedish market.

This is not Mr. Skinnar’s first trip to Somaliland or first fishing related endeavor, in fact, he has visited Somaliland frequently as a member of Anglo Somaliland Resources. A British shell company that somehow convinced the government of former President Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud to make it the sole agent to distribute fishing licenses on behalf of Somaliland.

It is unclear what happened to the existing agreement with Anglo Somaliland Resources and how it will be affected by the Marine Conservation Project. Both entities share a common denominator in Mr. Marcus Skinnar.

Mr. Skinnar who was in Maansoor Hotel in Hargeisa who spoke to us after a referral from Mr. Weis for more details on the project showed little interest in answering critical questions about this vast project and instead told us about his attempt to locate an undiscovered ancient pyramid in Somaliland. Mr. Skinnar, according to him, sees himself as an Indiana Jones of a sort.

Repeated attempt to get Mr. Skinnar to explain the project led to a lengthy explanation of how expensive electricity is stunting Somaliland’s economic growth and his plans to introduce underwater turbines that convert tidal currents from the conservation areas to produce cheap renewable energy.

Mr. Skinnar also took the time to explain how lucrative Somaliland’s untapped tourism sector, especially given its proximity to China and its vast and increasingly wealthy population.

Despite Mr. Skinnar’s hyperbole and repeatedly describing himself as a wealthy philanthropist, his company Edurus AB generated around 3 million US dollars in 2018 before taxes and expenses. This puts Edurus in the small business category.
 

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Connection to Anglo Somaliland Resources

On the event held to unveil the conservation project, Mr. Skinnar seemed to distance himself from Anglo Somaliland Resources and stated that it was a conversation with Mr. Waller that convinced him to end his relationship with them because of their connection with the Chinese fishing industry and its record of decimating fishing habitats in other countries.

Mr. Skinnar also shared a different business that he is currently pursuing in Somaliland related to mineral exploration and the potential for quarrying expensive marble and granite, he added that Mr. Mohamed Mohamed Abdirahman who is a trained geologist is his partner in that business.

It is worth noting that Mr. Mohamed Mohamed Abdirahman is still listed as a Director with Anglo Somaliland Resources.

Although neither Mr. Skinnar or Somaliland’s Representative in Sweden Mr. Waes revealed any useful information about how much the project they were unanimous in pointing out that Mr. Waller is the business brain behind the project and that he is working on assembling investors for the project.


Which brings us to the money man – Mr. Johan Waller.

Mr. Waller is the founder of a successful management consulting firm known as Business Wellness Group founded in 2002 that generated around 60 million dollars in sales in 2018, beyond that, we do not know much about him or his relationship with the conservation project and the fact that he is the businessperson who will get the funding together.

Unlike his business partner Mr. Skinnar, Mr. Waller is a man of few words who politely declined to speak on the record and provide any information about the project.



Tourism Project Disguised as Conservation?
There are too many unknown variables with this project, starting with the astronomical cost required by such an effort and the fact that private investors do not see a conservation effort as a viable investment opportunity.

Mr. Waller, who makes a living showing other companies how and where to cut costs and how to maximize their profits will have a difficult time convincing investors to pour massive sums of money in a non-profit marine conservation effort.

Although tourism was not mentioned by either of the Ministers and only alluded to by Mr. Skinnar, it may be the most plausible reason that an investor will be interested in an island especially Sa’ada Diin.

It is also entirely possible that this project is a permutation of Anglo Somaliland Resources with conservation and a Swedish veneer.
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Mr. Skinnar, second from right with President Bihi and Anglo Somaliland Resources associates Sir Tony Baldry and Ian Fenwick.

Somaliland government has a history of signing agreements with shady entities with minimal due diligence. It is unclear how much effort went into vetting Mr. Skinnar and examining his relationship with Anglo Somaliland Resources.


It is also unclear if the Somaliland government completed any feasibility studies to understand the true cost of enforcing conservation on 35% of Somaliland’s coast or if tourism is a component of the agreement, how it will affect the fragile ecosystem of Sa’ada Diin and other islands.

Asked if President Bihi is aware of this project and is aware of the details, officials from the President’s office were unaware of a meeting with Mr. Skinnar or if the President have been briefed privately by the Ministers.

Ministers Gafadhi and Shukri did not respond to request to comment on the project and attempts to reach the new Ministry of Livestock and Fisheries Development Mr. Saeed Sulub Mohamed Hussein were unsuccessful.
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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The most stable and somewhat sane region we have is just as corrupt as every other African shithole.

Should just give up hope for Somalia...not sure why I bother.
 

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Since it's so long, here's a summary:
  • Somaliland ministers announce a meeting with Swedish politicians
  • It emerges that they only met with a small far-right Nazi party
  • Somaliland fisheries minister then announces a massive conservation project covering 35% of their coast
  • The primary investor, Skinnar, is a massive tuug who has scammed Somaliland before (he owns all of Somaliland's fishing licenses)
  • Skinnar doesn't actually have any money. His company, Edurus, is only worth $3 million, making it a small business
  • Skinnar said that he will walk Somaliland's ictiraaf papers to the UN headquarters in New York City and get them recognized
  • Skinnar told the Somaliland government that he is searching for an ancient pyramid in their region and said that he considers himself an Indiana Jones
  • Muse Bihi signs agreement giving 35% of Somaliland's coast and all of their islands to Skinnar
 

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The most stable and somewhat sane region we have is just as corrupt as every other African shithole.

Should just give up hope for Somalia...not sure why I bother.
The most stable? You must have missed the last edition of Irir Watch.
Hello and welcome to Irir Watch, your number one source for all things Irir.

On this first edition, we go over the simultaneous clan wars taking place in five Irir settlements.
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  1. Berbera, Somaliland
  2. Ceelafweyn, Somaliland
  3. Dhuusomareb, Galmudug
  4. Wisil, Galmudug
  5. Mogadishu
The problem communities that have kept Somalia in turmoil for 30 years are very obvious.
At least 2 ongoing clan wars as we speak.
:russ:
 

Ras

It's all so tiresome
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The most stable? You must have missed the last edition of Irir Watch.

At least 2 ongoing clan wars as we speak.
:russ:

Less suffering overall. Their people aren't rich but also aren't queuing at IDP camps like the rest of the country.

Sane because their governance structure is somewhat more structured than the chaos in most the other states.
 

Karim

I could agree with you but then we’d both be wrong
HALYEEY
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Why the FGS is letting the intoxicated crackhead Jeegaans sell our country's islands?!! FailMaajo is a walking DISAPPOINTMENT. What a buffoon!
 

DR OSMAN

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Conned Again – How a Swedish Tombstone Salesman Acquired All of Somaliland's Islands under the Guise of Fake Marine Conservation.

On June 11, 2019, a high-level delegation of Somaliland Ministers consisting of the Minister of Environment and Rural Development, Ms. Shukri Haji Bandari, the Minister of Minerals and Energy Mr. Jama Egal and the Minister of Livestock and Fisheries development Mr. Hassan Mohamed Ali Gafadhi visited Sweden and met with members of the Swedish Parliament, community and business interests looking to invest in Somaliland.

The delegation’s visit got off to a rocky start when members of Somaliland’s community in Sweden accused the Somaliland Representative Mr. Zakaria Waes of facilitating a meeting with the ministers with members of Sweden’s far-right Sverigedemokraterna party and Mr. Mikael Thorstensson.

The most important aspect of the trip, however, was unknown to the public until early November, when Somaliland Representative in Sweden Mr. Zakaria Waes wrote on facebook to expect the airing of an important program on SVT. This was a 7-minute segment about a project known as Somaliland Marine Conservation Project.

Although the sequence of events surrounding the conservation project is unclear, there were two major events, a signing ceremony in Hargeisa and the project unveiling in Stockholm.

At a document signing ceremony in Hargeisa, Ministers Shukri and Gaafaadhi, Representative Waes and Skinnar provided some detail of what the project entails.

Mr. Gafadhi, who at the time was the Minister of Livestock and Fisheries Development spoke at this event stated that the conservation project will cover an area of at least 35% of Somaliland’s coast with a total ban on commercial foreign fishing.

The Minister of Environment Ms. Shukri who also spoke at the signing ceremony reiterated the importance of Somaliland’s marine resources but added that Somaliland’s all three Islands including the largest Sa’ada Diin will be part of this conservation project or agreement.
image.png

Although some news reports have mentioned Swedish government involvement, we could not find any links between this project and the Swedish government.

Now, let’s look at the cast of characters involved in what could be the largest and perhaps least known agreement the Somaliland Government has entered since DP World Berbera port agreement.




Somaliland’s Representative Mr. Waes:
According to Somaliland Representative in Sweden Mr. Zakaria Waes, who we have spoken to at length for this story, the conservation project is part of Somaliland’s commitment to the sustainable development goals in the marine conservation sector and the fact that the Swedish National TV had an entire segment dedicated to Somaliland and the project could improve Somaliland’s image.

Mr. Waes stated that this could be the project that gets Somaliland noticed on the world stage and put it on the map. He added that the people working on this project, presumably Skinnar and Waller will walk our recognition papers into the tall building in New York, a reference to the UN headquarters in New York.

Asked if the project had the full support of the government of Somaliland, Mr. Weis repeated a statement he made on the SVT2 segment that the President of Somaliland, HE Muse Bihi Abdi himself had signed off on it.

Despite his unbridled enthusiasm, however, Mr. Waes seemed to have a tenuous grasp on the basic mechanics of the project and even though he mentioned investors a couple of times during our conversation with him, he did not provide details on how the investors will get their return on investment.


The Swedish Investors: Skinnar and Waller
Let’s start with Mr. Marcus Skinnar, an atypical fast-talking Swede with deep links to China and the owner of Edurus, a company that supplies tombstones to the Swedish market.

This is not Mr. Skinnar’s first trip to Somaliland or first fishing related endeavor, in fact, he has visited Somaliland frequently as a member of Anglo Somaliland Resources. A British shell company that somehow convinced the government of former President Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud to make it the sole agent to distribute fishing licenses on behalf of Somaliland.

It is unclear what happened to the existing agreement with Anglo Somaliland Resources and how it will be affected by the Marine Conservation Project. Both entities share a common denominator in Mr. Marcus Skinnar.

Mr. Skinnar who was in Maansoor Hotel in Hargeisa who spoke to us after a referral from Mr. Weis for more details on the project showed little interest in answering critical questions about this vast project and instead told us about his attempt to locate an undiscovered ancient pyramid in Somaliland. Mr. Skinnar, according to him, sees himself as an Indiana Jones of a sort.

Repeated attempt to get Mr. Skinnar to explain the project led to a lengthy explanation of how expensive electricity is stunting Somaliland’s economic growth and his plans to introduce underwater turbines that convert tidal currents from the conservation areas to produce cheap renewable energy.

Mr. Skinnar also took the time to explain how lucrative Somaliland’s untapped tourism sector, especially given its proximity to China and its vast and increasingly wealthy population.

Despite Mr. Skinnar’s hyperbole and repeatedly describing himself as a wealthy philanthropist, his company Edurus AB generated around 3 million US dollars in 2018 before taxes and expenses. This puts Edurus in the small business category.

If you look at all the OIL companies also their small business making peanuts or a few millions. They don't have the funds to fund piplines, extraction, equipments. They also lack the 'market' and nations who only deal with multinational oil companies. These small companies just want to grab real estate of oil locations and make money from the sale to BP/SHELL/CONOCO and the big boys, that's they're only objectives these wild risk tasking companies. No companies worth billions is risking anything in Somalia let's be real, who would be mad too? only 'venturers' and small start ups looking to make money will take the 'risk' in Somalia and even then they are so small and lack national markets for anything, it's obviously just a get rich quick scheme by them.
 

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Less suffering overall. Their people aren't rich but also aren't queuing at IDP camps like the rest of the country.

Sane because their governance structure is somewhat more structured than the chaos in most the other states.
Instead they tahriib en masse.
:mjlol:
They're better than the south but far from the best region in the country.
 

AarHawd_7

North-West, London
The truth is it aint you country bro, and if your officials step one foot in to our country they will be jailed lol. How you calling it your country then? Don’t fool yourselves saaxib. We can do what we want with our country even if we sell it to the Europeans or Americans it aint your business and if it is your business why don’t you guys come do something about it?
 
All this is invalid anyway, we all know the berbera UAE military base was stopped by the government.

http://www.globalconstructionreview.com/news/somalilands-berbera-get-second-airport-after-uae-a/

i say let them sell there islands. when the real people in power turn there head towards waqooyi galbeed this guy will be kicked to the curf.

at this moment Farmaajo is dealing with more important things (relection, galmudug, jubbaland, seacase and al shabaab) but in 2 or 3 years somalia will turn its head towards waqooyi galbeed.
 

IftiinOfLife

Raw Hard Truth
In this episode of Neo Colonialism lol, Somaliland decides to sell priceless islands for white recognition.... I mean ictiraaf.

I don't think most Somalilanders on the ground know their geography and coast line/fishing rights have been sold to foreigners, you guys can put it on their social media?
 

Farm

VIP
Insane. So their coastline, islands, etc have all been sold to white men? Damn white men are making a killing in Sland.
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
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In this episode of Neo Colonialism lol, Somaliland decides to sell priceless islands for white recognition.... I mean ictiraaf.

I don't think most Somalilanders on the ground know their geography and coast line/fishing rights have been sold to foreigners, you guys can put it on their social media?
They know. Look at @shum33 and @AarHawd_7 they are ok with selling it as long as they are able to sell it.
 

Kezira

disneylanders
Selling the Islands of Bahabar Celi, Mahad(Maxamed) Casse (Samaroon/Gadabuursi) the clan who Saylici belongs to. Hope they see what Somaliland is all about now only one clan profiting from it and it is the triangle sambusa rats Sambusa Triangle Hargeisa Berbera Burco.
 

Tukraq

VIP
How can he own it while he cant even visit with out a one way ticket to Mandheera jail :chrisfreshhah:
Bashar Assad for example is the president of Syria, just because there’s a rouge state within his borders doesn’t mean he doesn’t legally own what’s inside his borders, same thing here
 

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