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the same people saying women should not pursue tacliin sare are the same people who want female gynecologists and doctors to treat women and female teachers. make it make sense.
Should woman pursue higher education?
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the same people saying women should not pursue tacliin sare are the same people who want female gynecologists and doctors to treat women and female teachers. make it make sense.
Brother, do you honestly think they care? In my area at least 40-50% of older Somali women work in care washing the backsides of gaals since conservatives crunch down on government assistance. Some of these women are divorced, widowed or even married and need work in many cases with no fault of the husband (illness, old age and ect).
We already know that statistically world wide women are the poorest demographic as it's very easy for them to be widowed but lacking skills to fend for themselves. Its also hilarious they used the Zina and education arguments when it is facts that the vast majority of prostitutes and only fan girls are not educated and from poorer backgrounds. I'm mentioning this because according to Haqoq women going to college leads this.
Also, how do we claim alimony is haram which it is, but expect women to fend for themselves post divorce, yet ban them from education. How will they look after themselves? Care? Insert any other back breaking job? Funnily enough, in the digital age, educated women can easily find themselves high paying online jobs, but an educated woman would have to leave her house.
Can we as a society claim to care about women?
LOL, do you think they care? They're trying to position marriage to one of survival for women, which gives greater access to struggling men. That is what this is about. For the small % of men who are anti-education believe so because of their manosphere marriage market belief that since a lot of women are getting educated and thus more money and unfortunately a subsection of working class men are struggling, this is resulting in these men not having acess to women. Theyre quiet open with their arguments now.
Boils down to their sexim taking over their logic. A brother I saw on twitter made me think and what he says makes sense. The whole argument derives from the idea of Muslim women being intellectually weaker and more prone to promiscuity. That is the only logical explanation as to why they could argue that women are banned and men are not as in the context of the West, Brothers can be trained in plumbing, building and electrians.
But I highly doubt they're that deranged. I think its mostly due to anxiety surrounding marriage market of men.
Forget that, in an era in which people are grappling with iman, how do you think this will play out? One Afghan brother was talking about this in the context of Afghanistan.
Parents can only be vigilant if they're educated themselves. There are subtle talking points in which kids are exposed to and only parents with actual critical thinking and understanding can converse with their kids about this and sway them away.
It will simply result in disgruntled and resentful women who will spend most of their days on the internet being exposed to far worse than the classroom.
Yep, having our Muslim schools will help, but we can only do that with better organization and men and women as a community coming together, not through division.
I think home schooling, Islamic schools and Muslim women educator groups will do wonders, but again that will only work if women are educated.
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Ive seen one advocate for homeschooling whilst celebrating for women not to be educated.
I said it and i'll say it again. This is all about marriage market and the rise of educated women with financial advantages and an unfortunate amount of working class men who don't fit the requirements of marriage.
It is disaster.
someone posts about scrambled eggs
Somalispot: yo, you burned it, you must be Salafi
@Abu Ash’ari Welcome to Salafiya akhi
Somalispot: yo, you burned it, you must be Salafi
@Abu Ash’ari Welcome to Salafiya akhi
A degree isn’t required for a man to be a provider, you can enter the trades and get a good paying job. You can even become a software engineer without a degree.
So if women shouldn’t go to university because it’s a breeding ground for atheism, marxism, feminism, heresy, hookup culture and all anti-Islamic ideas, then neither should men because they don’t have to have a degree to be financial providers.
This is Daniel's real reason. Its all to do with marriage:
Lol precious time. The average woman finishes collage at 21. Are we all meant to marry at 16-18? It's all about their obsession of getting teenage brides.
By talking about non Islamic ideologies, whilst he ironically peruses learning Philosophy at a gaal university, he is giving his manosphere argument an Islamic cloak. Funny how less than ten years ago, women's education wasn't up for debate amongst Western Muslim men, but with the rise of redpill it has.
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Men commit more zina than women and have higher sex drives, I would be more afriad of my son going to university or college because he is going to become a zaani than a conservative Muslim daughter they are usually well mannered and not interested in zina despite all the fitna.
Men are usually leaders in a society and have power to implement it, if my son learns phliosophy and false ideologies at university, then he is more likely to have a negative effect on the ummah because he is a bigger influence on society as a whole. when men are misguided, they cause alot more misguidance than women. Also men and women are equally suscpetible to brainwashing in general, there is not a massive difference.
Also women cannot always find an ideal man to marry, not only is finding a Man difficult, and finding a financially stable man difficult, but what about all the other problems in the marriage that could happen, with difficult housing or family problems or children with special needs and the list goes on, what happens if you get divorced your husband dies or is ill.
A women should at least have a safety blanket. We don't live in the past, noone is going to care about our wives and mothers and sisters after we die, we live in an indivdualistic society, not an Islamic one, it sounds good in theory but pratically it doesn't work.
Men are usually leaders in a society and have power to implement it, if my son learns phliosophy and false ideologies at university, then he is more likely to have a negative effect on the ummah because he is a bigger influence on society as a whole. when men are misguided, they cause alot more misguidance than women. Also men and women are equally suscpetible to brainwashing in general, there is not a massive difference.
Also women cannot always find an ideal man to marry, not only is finding a Man difficult, and finding a financially stable man difficult, but what about all the other problems in the marriage that could happen, with difficult housing or family problems or children with special needs and the list goes on, what happens if you get divorced your husband dies or is ill.
A women should at least have a safety blanket. We don't live in the past, noone is going to care about our wives and mothers and sisters after we die, we live in an indivdualistic society, not an Islamic one, it sounds good in theory but pratically it doesn't work.
With somali people mostly found in deprived areas in 1st countries. Those child are already going into the worst institutions to be educated.
You'll are best be working class throughout your lifetime. Your future income will be outpaced by higher education, housing, rentals, daycare and more. You can't afford to support a family on a single income. It's not a option for you
You are being unrealistic. You need a new belief system to that meets your reality.
Why are you accepting a woman without a degree? How would your family feel if you accept a woman with little prospects? Wouldn't you feel embarrassed by your friends and peers?
Why would you want to hold back your future children potential?
You'll are best be working class throughout your lifetime. Your future income will be outpaced by higher education, housing, rentals, daycare and more. You can't afford to support a family on a single income. It's not a option for you
You are being unrealistic. You need a new belief system to that meets your reality.
Why are you accepting a woman without a degree? How would your family feel if you accept a woman with little prospects? Wouldn't you feel embarrassed by your friends and peers?
Why would you want to hold back your future children potential?
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The funny thing about all this, is that he’s married a Harvard university graduate himself. Apparently it’s the woman in the OP. No problem with my wife getting an education, but don’t let your daughters get one lmao. This is why we shouldn’t listen to random speakers without an Islamic education.
Yep, the rise of redpill has led to this. Ten years ago, this would never have been a discussion. For all of Muslim men's obsession with feminism, we now have a poison in which our right to education and jobs is controversial.
Yes, women should pursue higher education, but they shouldn't allow themselves to be influenced by un-Islamic methodologies such as feminism, femcel, gender equality and other rebellious acts that put them in the wrong path.
To all the CIA, MI6 and Mossad agents lurking on this thread, I do not have the same sentiments as some of the people on this thread. I love freedom, women and democracy. Please don't put me on any watchlists.
Next topic ideas for the woman-haters.
1. To leash or unleash? Taking the wife for walks.
2. Why muzzling your wife is best for your marriage.
1. To leash or unleash? Taking the wife for walks.
2. Why muzzling your wife is best for your marriage.
Sis, they already got there before you..
They're celebrating women not being allowed sims to even call family and friends or to record.
That is abuse. What if a woman is in a bad situation and she needs to call her family?
