Shia "scholars": Ali created the Universe

[Greattragedy]

 

[Aurelian]

Shia and Al-albayt wants to monopolize Islam, and deify Ali and his descendants. Even some of their ideology leaked to Sunni islam.

- The Khalif can only be a Hashimi or from Quraish clan
- Al-Khums ( a tax on non Al-albayt to Al-albayt descended 25% of the income)
- Hind Bin Cutba ate the liver of Hamza
- loving the Al-albayt is a requirement for iman ( yes some sunnis say that )
- etc

 

[Yibir_]

- loving the Al-albayt is a requirement for iman ( yes some sunnis say that )

*sufis. They believe that there is certain qualities in the bloodlines of prophets and saints, and that you can get blessings from them. See the tomb of hud (as) in Hadhramaut and the deification via tariqa of the leaders of the tribes that inhabit that region, the zayidis in pakisatan, the qureyshi kings in arabia etc. They also hoard alleged trophies like hair, teeth and nails for their purported miracles.

Genetics =/= taqwa, you cannot get closer to God through intermediaries but only through the proxy of your own righteousness.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Shia and Al-albayt wants to monopolize Islam, and deify Ali and his descendants. Even some of their ideology leaked to Sunni islam.

- The Khalif can only be a Hashimi or from Quraish clan
- Al-Khums ( a tax on non Al-albayt to Al-albayt descended 25% of the income)
- Hind Bin Cutba ate the liver of Hamza
- loving the Al-albayt is a requirement for iman ( yes some sunnis say that )
- etc

if you're not a Sunni or a Shia then what are you?

 

[Hamzza]

Shia and Al-albayt wants to monopolize Islam, and deify Ali and his descendants. Even some of their ideology leaked to Sunni islam.

- The Khalif can only be a Hashimi or from Quraish clan
- Al-Khums ( a tax on non Al-albayt to Al-albayt descended 25% of the income)
- Hind Bin Cutba ate the liver of Hamza

These are authentic Sunni Islam beliefs. Are you now denying even the Quran??

The Khums of the Ahlu Sunanah is referring to war booty which the Ahlul Bayt will take 1/5, not tax

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

if you're not a Sunni or a Shia then what are you?

Pente

 

[Omar del Sur]

These are authentic Sunni Islam beliefs. Are you now denying even the Quran??

The Khums of the Ahlu Sunanah is referring to war booty which the Ahlul Bayt will take 1/5, not tax

this guy is constantly pushing to undermine the correct beliefs. things like claiming that Imam Mahdi isn't real.

 

[Aurelian]

*sufis. They believe that there is certain qualities in the bloodlines of prophets and saints, and that you can get blessings from them. See the tomb of hud (as) in Hadhramaut and the deification via tariqa of the leaders of the tribes that inhabit that region, the zayidis in pakisatan, the qureyshi kings in arabia etc. They also hoard alleged trophies like hair, teeth and nails for their purported miracles.

Genetics =/= taqwa, you cannot get closer to God through intermediaries but only through the proxy of your own righteousness.

Absolute non Islamic. Islam came to guide ppl to the right path and worship god, without any deification or preferential treatment to any ppl , so no special “ chosen ppl or bloodline”

 

[Almis]

May Allah guide them

 

[xiin-finiin]

- Hind Bin Cutba ate the liver of Hamza

wait, she didn't? I swear to God i thought she did? like as far back as i can remember, i always heard she ate his liver

 

[Hamzza]

wait, she didn't? I swear to God i thought she did? like as far back as i can remember, i always heard she ate his liver

She chewed. @Aurelian is a massive deviants iska ilaali

 

[Aurelian]

She chewed. @Aurelian is a massive deviants iska ilaali

Waryaa @Omar del Sur come here and tell us if she really chewed Hamza's liver

 

[Shimbiris]

What in the name of God? You'd think Ali was Iranian by how much they ride this man's wave. What the hell?! I mean, why do they care this much about a guy who was a cousin of the Prophet (SAW) from all the way in the Hejaz while they're in Tehran or wherever?! Just worship God and be done with it, saaxiibs.

 

[Aurelian]

What in the name of God? You'd think Ali was Iranian by how much they ride this man's wave. What the hell?! I mean, why do they care this much about a guy who was a cousin of the Prophet (SAW) from all the way in the Hejaz while they're in Tehran or wherever?! Just worship God and be done with it, saaxiibs.

They created myths about him as well, one of them is that he ripped off the door of Kheibar's fortress

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They really believe in this and if you said this is not true, you are kafir to them

 

[Hamzza]

Waryaa @Omar del Sur come here and tell us if she really chewed Hamza's liver
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Hinda was not Muslim at the time of the battle of Uhud. Surely, Islam wipes out all past sins committed before it. I admit some scholars questioned the authenticity of this story, but nevertheless, it is still in every Seerah book and no Shias didn't add anything to Ahlus Sunnah books. That is an absurd claim.

 

[Shimbiris]

They created myths about him as well, one of them is that he ripped off the door of Kheibar's fortress

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They really believe in this and if you said this is not true, you are kafir to them

Incredibly strange stuff, walaal. They've essentially constructed a whole cult around Ali. But again, it's so weird because it's not like he was Iranian or even particularly disposed toward them or was he? These guys are literally letting a schism that occurred between Muslims AFTER the death of the nabi shape their entire worldview and what they worship.

 

[Aurelian]

Hinda was not Muslim at the time of the battle of Uhud. Surely, Islam wipes out all past sins committed before it. I admit some scholars questioned the authenticity of this story, but nevertheless, it is still in every Seerah book and no Shias didn't add anything to Ahlus Sunnah books. That is an absurd claim.

Let's see what that other wannabe sheikh will say

 

[Hamzza]

What in the name of God? You'd think Ali was Iranian by how much they ride this man's wave. What the hell?! I mean, why do they care this much about a guy who was a cousin of the Prophet (SAW) from all the way in the Hejaz while they're in Tehran or wherever?! Just worship God and be done with it, saaxiibs.

Arab Shias venerate Ali too. The matter has nothing to do with nationality & race, it's just wrong religious beliefs which the Iranians adopted recently much later than Arabs or even Turks.

 

[Hamzza]

Let's see what that other wannabe sheikh will say

I'm not Sheikh

 

[Aurelian]

Incredibly strange stuff, walaal. They've essentially constructed a whole cult around Ali. But again, it's so weird because it's not like he was Iranian or even particularly disposed toward them or was he? These guys are literally letting a schism that occurred between Muslims AFTER the death of the nabi shape their entire worldview and what they worship.

Not only them, but also some of Hashimite dynasties like Houthi, early Abbasid conspirators, they build most of nowadays Sunni view of this Ali persona, Ali with unique strength, wisdom, etc. The abbasid rebellion started from Iran.