Sheikh Omar Suleiman Says Ancient Arabs where BLACK

[Nin123]

He is just reading from the historical text, how is that pseudo science, pray tell?

Arab were never black in skin and they never resemble horn of African people I know the OP want to make connections that Cushitic are the real arab like some hotep shit

 

[Haragwaafi]

It is clear that the Arabs in ancient times were Semitic Caucasians with dark skin because of the environment in the Arabian Peninsula before they expanded and their empire was built after the conquests. People believe that being black means being Negro or sub-Saharan African, and this is wrong. They are like us, but the difference is that some of them mixed because of the presence of concubines from Many nationalities such as Persians and Turks

Arabs looked just the same they look now and concubines were only available to rich powerful aristocratic families not for ordinary commoners.

 

[Lightshow]

Arab were never black in skin and they never resemble horn of African people I know the OP want to make connections that Cushitic are the real arab like some hotep shit

What is black, or horn of African people?

No one is comparing Arabs to anyone. But they indeed were dark according to all of the sources. In fact modern Arabs with the highest amounts of ancient Natufian ancestry are the Soqotrans. Now go and look at how they look!

 

[techsamatar]

Cushite are not even semites to begin with and this Shiekh is pushing pseudoscience with weak evidence. Arab skin colour is dependent on where they live like in Oman they are tanned and the Yemen who live in the high lands are white in skin colour.

Cush is from Shem son of Nuh Islamically so please refrain from yapping without knowledge. Stop bringing your bible references.

Also how can inner part of the horn be considered Semitic in language but the entrance and closest region to Arabian peninsula not? Cushite languages are semitic with documental and historical proof from language research.

@Cush School this guy on Cushitic languages being semitic plz.

 

[Nin123]

Cush is from Shem son of Nuh Islamically so please refrain from yapping without knowledge. Stop bringing your bible references.

Also how can inner part of the horn be considered Semitic in language but the entrance and closest region to Arabian peninsula not? Cushite languages are semitic with documental and historical proof from language research.

@Cush School this guy on Cushitic languages being semitic plz.

Nah even in Islam Cush was the sun of ham not Shem you lying ass nigga cushite are not semites and definitely not an Arab people

 

[Nin123]

What is black, or horn of African people?

No one is comparing Arabs to anyone. But they indeed were dark according to all of the sources. In fact modern Arabs with the highest amounts of ancient Natufian ancestry are the Soqotrans. Now go and look at how they look!

What do you gain from lying mate??? Arab never been dark or black skinned in colour. Have some shame and stop with this pseudoscience nonsense

 

[Scipio Africanus]

What do you gain from lying mate??? Arab never been dark or black skinned in colour. Have some shame and stop with this pseudoscience nonsense

Arabians [Arabs from Arabia] can have dark/swarthy skin tone, but are never racially Sub-Saharan/Negro.

Here's an example of a dark/swarthy Arabian:

 

[techsamatar]

Nah even in Islam Cush was the sun of ham not Shem you lying ass nigga cushite are not semites and definitely not an Arab people

If I just prove your ignorant comments wrong will you please stop Yapping?

Tafsir Ibn Kathir is a highly respected Islamic commentary that meticulously interprets Quranic verses and Hadiths. It is considered one of the most authentic tafsirs, renowned for its reliance on textual evidence. Its fame among scholars is second only to al-Tabari, establishing its credibility in the field of Islamic interpretation.

The Debate Between Ibrahim Al-Khalil(AS) and King Nimrod​

surah Al-Baqarah- verse 259.

The king who disputed with Ibrahim was King Nimrod, son of Canaan, son of Kush, son of Sam, son of Noah, as Mujahid stated. It was also said that he was Nimrod, son of Falikh, son of Abir, son of Shalikh, son of Arfakhshand, son of Shem, son of Noah. Mujahid said, “The kings who ruled the eastern and western parts of the world are four, two believers and two disbelievers. As for the two believing kings, they were Sulayman bin Dawud and Dhul-Qarnayn. As for the two disbelieving kings, they were Nimrod and Nebuchadnezzar.” Allah knows best.


Please Stop studying the Corrupt Bible as your source and reference when you have a preserved Deen you can study but you just don't hence you talk out of ignorance.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

For the Afrocentrists baboons, the terms 'dark' or 'swarthy' in ancient times were used relative to the average skin tone which was brown/olive skin for Ancient Arabians and Jews/Israelites.

For example, Moses [A.S] was simply just a dark/swarthy Jew and he was described as 'dark' because the average skin tone was brown for his people. However, that did not mean he was a Sub-Saharan/Negro/Black person. It's really just common sense.

 

[techsamatar]

For the Afrocentrists baboons, the terms 'dark' or 'swarthy' in ancient times were used relative to the average skin tone which was brown/olive skin for Ancient Arabians and Jews/Israelites.

For example, Moses [A.S] was simply just a dark/swarthy Jew and he was described as 'dark' because the average skin tone was brown for his people. However, that did not mean he was a Sub-Saharan/Negro/Black person. It's really just common sense.

stfu jahil and keep coping, bro creating narrations and definitions out of his ass. @Cush

And for god sake why tf is having blackness connected to Sub saharan or Negros?

Are you telling me theirs no Horn Africans who are jet black, or brown, or dark brown, or wheatish complexion with redness? ngga what tf are you if you dont have shades of blackness?

Infact Most somalis back home are either Adam(Dark- brown) or Asmar(Brown) and you will find some who are Shadidul udma(jet black) like Musa.

You people have obsession with west Africans and connecting everything considered black with them get of their .

 

[Scipio Africanus]

stfu jahil and keep coping, bro creating narrations and definitions out of his ass. @Cush

And for god sake why tf is having blackness connected to Sub saharan or Negros?

Are you telling theirs no Horn Africans who are jet black, or brown, or dark brown, or wheatish complexion with redness? ngga what tf are you if you dont have shades of blackness?

You people have obsession with west Africans and connecting everything considered black with them get of their .

Negro, you know f*ck all about genetics.

Somalis & other Horn Africans are racially mixed between Ancient Middle-Easterners and Sub-Saharans/Black Africans. On average, Somalis are the Blackest/most Sub-Saharan looking mixed population in the Horn; Habeshas have more Middle-Eastern ancestry & look more Biracial.

 

[Lightshow]

Arabians [Arabs from Arabia] can have dark/swarthy skin tone, but are never racially Sub-Saharan/Negro.

Here's an example of a dark/swarthy Arabian:

Please work on your comprehension. Where did I ever say that they are Sub-Saharan Africans?

I mentioned that Arabs were historically dark skinned, please learn to comprehend!

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Please work on your comprehension. Where did I ever say that they are Sub-Saharan Africans?

I mentioned that Arabs were historically dark skinned, please learn to comprehend!

Negro, don't start back-tracking. You've agreed with other lunatics on here claiming Ancient Arabians were Black and they became lighter through mixing with persians lmao.

 

[Lightshow]

Negro, you know f*ck all about genetics.

Somalis & other Horn Africans are racially mixed between Ancient Middle-Easterners and Sub-Saharans/Black Africans. On average, Somalis are the Blackest/most Sub-Saharan looking mixed population in the Horn; Habeshas have more Middle-Eastern ancestry & look more Biracial.

Actually the Cushites who came into the Horn were already mixed with a Nilotic like component. It is not too far fetched to assume that they mixed in the Middle East before entering Africa. Hence a Cushitic type Arabian is not far fetched at all. Future ancient genetic samples will give us the answers we seek.

But in the meantime, please refrain from insults and assuming things, it just creates uncalled for arguments besides the topic.

 

[Lightshow]

Negro, don't start back-tracking. You've agreed with other lunatics on here claiming Ancient Arabians were Black and they became lighter through mixing with persians lmao.

So to you dark skin means Sub-Saharan(whatever that means, as there are numerous ethnic and genetic groups in this extremely diverse region) right?

 

[Scipio Africanus]

So to you dark skin means Sub-Saharan(whatever that means, as there are numerous ethnic and genetic groups in this extremely diverse region) right?

I'm not here for semantics. I'm not questioning the existence of swarthy Arabians [past & present], but what's categorically not true are Ancient Arabians being Black African from a racial standpoint and this stupid lie that mixing with outsiders gave them light-skin.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Actually the Cushites who came into the Horn were already mixed with a Nilotic like component. It is not too far fetched to assume that they mixed in the Middle East before entering Africa. Hence a Cushitic type Arabian is not far fetched at all. Future ancient genetic samples will give us the answers we seek.

But in the meantime, please refrain from insults and assuming things, it just creates uncalled for arguments besides the topic.

Simply not true. The mixing happened in Northern Sudan where Ancient Middle-Easterners came into contact with Ancient Blacks, the lands further up North in Egypt and in the Levant did not have Blacks.

Some of the Old Kingdom Egyptian samples were leaked and they had no Black African dna.

 

[Lightshow]

I'm not here for semantics. I'm not questioning the existence of swarthy Arabians [past & present], but what's categorically not true are Ancient Arabians being Black African from a racial standpoint and this stupid lie that mixing with outsiders gave them light-skin.

Well it does seem like you are here for "semantics" because you are the one who is making broad brush statements with wild assumptions. For example like how you are misconstruing dark skin with "sub saharan" or "black Africa" whatever you mean by that.

 

[Scipio Africanus]

Well it does seem like you are here for "semantics" because you are the one who is making broad brush statements with wild assumptions. For example like how you are misconstruing dark skin with "sub saharan" or "black Africa" whatever you mean by that.

I've already explained my position and the facts backed by science. You & those other lunatics were the ones claiming Ancient Arabians mixed with outsiders to get light-skin and were originally Cushites[Semi-Blacks]. Lmfao.

 

[Lightshow]

Simply not true. The mixing happened in Northern Sudan where Ancient Middle-Easterners came into contact with Ancient Blacks, the lands further up North in Egypt and in the Levant did not have Blacks.

Some of the Old Kingdom samples were leaked and they had no Black African dna.

"Simply not true" ok so you know everything correct. You are really a computerised individual, the world is not black and white. Neither is all knowledge and information set in stone. We do not know much about the historical region nor who was present, neither do we have a full genetic picture of the past.

Also your use of "semantics" is very absolute and childish. For example how you mention "Sub Saharan" or "black African" like it is one simple entity. Or how you immediately place any perceived opposing view to your own "facts backed" approach as being false.

I've already explained my position and the facts backed by science.

Science is an evolving entity so please do not pretend to know it all