Secularist Are Divided

DR OSMAN

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I love secularist, scientific method type of culture but in all honesty, we are just as divided as the Islamist. You got capitalist, socialists, traditionalist(royalty), religious type, semi religious, and atheists. I will never sell a message that is totally un-real to my people or clan or nation(depending on what context I am speaking on). Somalia is my people only in a sense where they 'carved' a damn border, my people in local context is Puntland.

What is happening there is their trying to remove one identity for another thru 'centralism' where-as federalism seems to keep 'both' identity of regional identity locally and nationally 'somali identity' since we don't share the same region or clan with Somalis, we were unfortunate that the border was placed here and not somewhere else. It would've been better to carve dir/isaaq/hawiye together and darod separate rather then mix it all together and create an environment of competition because we are honestly not on the same 'diya' system and nothing will change that in the foreseable future, or possibly ever.

Now as Somalis I know u love to read for opposition so u can automatically find a hole and deny, this called circular reasoning and your already deciding your outcome and this can lead to your loss because your not actually 'listening' and seeing what the hell is being said in the first place and being impartial.

I wish secularist did the 'operation' jews did for secularist world wide. Remember 'magic carpet operation' for fellow jews in arabia, ethiopia, etc. The secularist won't do that for fellow 'cilmaani' around the world. I am prepared to give up my land in Somalia and say goodbye to this failed culture and join a society of freedom, power, money, and knowledge.

I kaftan with people in a sense of humor purpose if my clan was given the chance to swap places with aborigines in Australia and we give aborigines 'land' since they are crying about land, I would organize that 'transfer' deal and ask the Australian govt to honor 'treaty' deal between aborigines and bah dubays.

So love the doctor or hate him, dantisa waa yaqana, if operation save cilmaani world wide started. I would pack up bah dubays clan and say 'abahina wase' take it all and enjoy I will come back with a 'nuke' to take it back in the future.

Watch Somali respond and let me prove to you how well I know them if my theories are wrong. He will come in and 'reject, abuse, photo, call me wild man' see dadkani dont have 'sense of humor' anymore they can't see the light side of life and there is no way you will be able to be politician who 'kaftan' all the time about the national matter. Just stay out of it as 'shacabka' your just here to cheerlead and support your team, not LEAD IT.

Cilmaani people need to come together is my point and if you guys have people who are not happy lets send them where they are happy, and if islamist have ppl like me who are not happy in islamist society, open up a avenue and negiotate with secularist to take them. Now u got societies who match each other mentally and will be able to co-exist in the world. That's my message to secularist and religious type guys. Hala kala baxo dee, lakin yaan lays horfadhin ama laysku dagaalin dhul yar.
 

DR OSMAN

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I would cut a deal for bah dubays only cause that where I can speak on and have authority, don't ask me to speak for Somalis, ma ahi there authority, I can't strip the other somali of his choice and decision.

But the deal I would cut for bah dubays interest

1. Preserve language
2. Preserve lineage and tribe for identity purpose so they don't become lost people
3. Religion
4. Culture(only good elements like songs, poetry, proverbs) we dissect the bad elements(dark age mentality for study and observation for the world) to prepare for societies like this

However the atheist camp like ayan hersi have a-lot of power and I won't accept this as I am semi religious and don't believe anything should be removed or cancelled in the world, everything is knowledge and u cant force your disbelief on others but can we co-exist yes I think we can. Angels and Satan co-exist doing what they want, iskuma xad gudban. Belief n Disbelief can co-exist in my opinion as long as we don't try to eliminate each other.

So there is wars within secularism camp, the islamist know this the 'smart ones' and we know the wars inside their camp of islamism like cognissive and shabab and some are even nationalist islamist like saudis and gulf type. I study the enemy camp more cauuse I know my 'camp' arinteedu, u prepare for cadowga, but sometimes its healthy to review your ownself inaysan arintu saxlayn laftigeedu
 

DR OSMAN

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So as Somalis do not think I will ever sell you this 'perfect' image of myself or views. But it's the best system marki loo eego the other systems and highly depends who is in power and which camp. Stalin-Pol-pot types are like our version of SHABAB, this won't win people because they are being forced and once forced they find ways to fight back or become disloyal inside your new system. Islamist of extreme variety are doing the same method today but don't know they will find 'snitch' type who isn't happy and lying to them to survive like Somalis do. Dahir aways gave up, Mukhtar robow did. They realized theyre idealogy being forceful meant they had to prepare for 'attacks' because it's not the will of the people, u will find when people are not happy sxb, they will find ways to BRING U DOWN and sometimes maba lagu sheegayo and they just smile and say asalama alaykum and act like religious but he is 'calling' CIA and exposing you marku arkay inadan waxba soo wadin oo danahaga mooye. The same happens to secularist with islamist loyalist in our societies who love shabab and help them. PPL LIKE cognissive. Marka we should take ppl where they are satisfied. If somalis are satisfied with islamist go with them and the ones who dont want haloo sameeyo path way to go where they want
 

DR OSMAN

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Now watch cognissive it doesnt matter what solution u give him, wuu diidaya marka danahisa ayaa ugu daran he doesnt care for his idealogy, if he did he would talk about it and solutions, he just refuses anything because 'dano gaar ah buu lee yahay' oo reer keenadiid ah. Same goes for ayan hersi if u reason with her she wont care dano gaar ah weeye dadkasi. Thats what causes the splits in secularist inside and islamist, waa dano gaar ah ma aha idealogical
 
Now watch cognissive it doesnt matter what solution u give him, wuu diidaya marka danahisa ayaa ugu daran he doesnt care for his idealogy, if he did he would talk about it and solutions, he just refuses anything because 'dano gaar ah buu lee yahay' oo reer keenadiid ah. Same goes for ayan hersi if u reason with her she wont care dano gaar ah weeye dadkasi. Thats what causes the splits in secularist inside and islamist, waa dano gaar ah ma aha idealogical
Dr Osman when's the last time u prayed
 

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