Saudi Arabia officially abandons Wahhabism

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The Crown prince of Saudi Arabia, MBS finally rejects the tradition and legacy of Muḥammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhāb at-Tamīmī which influenced the society and politics of his kingdom. After spending billions of Petro-dollors propagating the Najdi understanding of Sunni Islam (commonly known as ‘Wahhabism’ by it’s critics), Saudi officials finally reject it as it no longer serves their interests.

Is this the end of Wahhabism? Could this be a changing period in the Muslim world?

Share your thoughts below.

 

[Omar del Sur]

Salafiyyah existed before Saudi Arabia and will continue to exist with or without it.

Salafiyyah exists independently of Saudi. Salafis have a certain relationship with Saudi because Saudi historically has promoted salafiyyah. But Salafiyyah exists independently of Saudi just like Sufism exists independently of the Ottoman empire.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

I believe MBS will slowly start to secularize and liberalize KSA. He’ll probably most likely want to have it look like UAE

 

[Abdisamad]

Good, now we need to eradicate this in Somalia, then we will get rid of the terrorists scumbags and the ugly jilbabs on the streets.

 

[TekNiKo]

The Crown prince of Saudi Arabia, MBS finally rejects the tradition and legacy of Muḥammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhāb at-Tamīmī which influenced the society and politics of his kingdom. After spending billions of Petro-dollors propagating the Najdi understanding of Sunni Islam (commonly known as ‘Wahhabism’ by it’s critics), Saudi officials finally reject it as it no longer serves their interests.

Is this the end of Wahhabism? Could this be a changing period in the Muslim world?

Share your thoughts below.

Yes this is the end of the cursed Wahabbi idealogy because their main funder has given up. No more millions spent on exporting this idealogy too the poor Muslim masses. Indeed the damage has been done and will take decades to recover.

 

[Magan95]

Yes this is the end of the cursed Wahabbi idealogy because their main funder has given up. No more millions spent on exporting this idealogy too the poor Muslim masses. Indeed the damage has been done and will take decades to recover.

I think it will take at least 100 years to undo the damage wahhabism has done.
Time and lots of money...

 

[SonOfMaverick]

Now that Arabs are civilizing. Its Somalia turn to abandon this primitive ideology. I’m sick of seeing Somali women walking around in burqas and tents.

 

[Dinaz]

Salafiyyah existed before Saudi Arabia and will continue to exist with or without it.

Salafiyyah exists independently of Saudi. Salafis have a certain relationship with Saudi because Saudi historically has promoted salafiyyah. But Salafiyyah exists independently of Saudi just like Sufism exists independently of the Ottoman empire.

um false. salafiyyah started in saudi arabia and spread to the muslim world via saudi arabia. it will be dead soon or in the decline if even the founders are rejecting it

 

[ThatHotMixedGuy]

Ah yes, most of the kafirs and munafiq's on SS commenting on one post, and well what you know its their favorite topic: Salafi bashing. Drown in your own hatred, Salafiayah the way of the sunnah and the pious predecessors started before all of you and will out last all you including Saudi Arabia.

 

[Omar del Sur]

um false. salafiyyah started in saudi arabia and spread to the muslim world via saudi arabia. it will be dead soon or in the decline if even the founders are rejecting it

Who do Salafi scholars quote all the time?

Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah. Salafi scholars probably cite Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah more than they cite Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab.

Sheikh Ibn Taymiyyah was a Salafi scholar. Even Ibn Jawzi- if you read Devil's Deception by him, he today would be called a "Wahhabi".

The reality is that denouncing bid'ah such as mawlid and praying to saints is not some radical concept that Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab invented.

It is blatantly obvious that we have no business praying to saints and that mawlid is a bid'ah.

The Sufis take advantage of illiterate, semi-literate elements living in rural villages in the Muslim world. If you have a person living in desperate poverty who cannot spell his name in the language he uses every day, much less read the Quran- yes, you may be able to convince him that praying to saints is part of Islam.

But suppose he has a son. He wants desperately for his son to get an education. His son goes to college, gets an education and is now an educated person. What is going to happen? I believe there are numerous such cases where he turns against his father's "folk religion" understanding of Islam and wants to turn to the authentic Islam as practiced by the earliest Muslims.

The reality is it is impossible to win against Salafis. It is kind of like the Marxist theory of revolution- even if you crushed all the Marxist revolutionaries, new Marxist revolutionaries will arise organically from the working class. Well- that is ridiculous because Marxism isn't an authentic expression of the working class. But Salafiyyah really would work sort of like that.

Even if you captured and beheaded me, suppressed all the Salafis, genocided all the Arabs and indoctrinate all the Muslim world with Sufism- some Muslim with some education is going to say "wait a minute.... there's nothing in this kitab about praying to saints". And another "Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab" will arise.

And it's no coincidence that so many Arabs are believers in Salafiyyah and Salafiyyah's stronghold basically is amongst the Arabs. I knew an Eritrean who complained that some local "Ethiopian" food was not authentic. If I eat Chinese food, I'm not going to know or care if it's authentic. But it would make sense that Chinese would be more concerned about that. The Arabs were the first to embrace Islam. It makes sense that Arabs would be the most concerned about preserving its authenticity.

 

[Omar del Sur]

I mean... even look at the arguments used by Sufis

-reference to forefathers
-racist tirades against Arabs
-gossip magazine style discussions of whatever it is the Saudi royals are up to (I don't keep up with them, I have no idea and don't really care)
-"the Saudis did this and that"

arguments used by Salafis:

-citing Quran and Sunnah.

the Sufis are living in an alternate reality if they think they can get rid of Salafiyah. and just like once you've opened Pandora's box, you cannot unopen it... it's sort of similar with Salafiyyah. once a person has realized the basic truths that Salafis teach such as that praying to saints is wrong.... the Sufis will have much trouble getting them to unlearn these things