Sarah paine imperial japan

I was watching this talk where she explains how imperial jaoan rose up and fought the Russians and Chinese in the meji period. And One thing I thought was particularly intresting is that after the russia-Japanese war of 1904 which japan won it became considered a great power snd every country in asia and europe was suddenly intrestd im this new power. I thought it presented an intresting contrast with the battle of adwa which was in 1896 only 8 years earlier. Which even though it was significant for pan-africanism and Ethiopia. It didn't result in a real change in how western countries dealt with Ethiopia

 

Diophantus

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Ama make this comment just so i can say "told you so" in the future. Anyways, i really get a bad vibe from this woman. Kinda like jordan peterson and neil degress tyson.

A real scholar shouldn't speak this way. What you say should not be entertaining, it should be dry and informative. Well explained, but still dry. If she is not an outright fraud, i think she likes to significantly simplify things to the point they border on fiction?

Idk, just a vibe i get from her. Got the same type of vibe from peterson even before he fell off.
 
Ama make this comment just so i can say "told you so" in the future. Anyways, i really get a bad vibe from this woman. Kinda like jordan peterson and neil degress tyson.

A real scholar shouldn't speak this way. What you say should not be entertaining, it should be dry and informative. Well explained, but still dry. If she is not an outright fraud, i think she likes to significantly simplify things to the point they border on fiction?

Idk, just a vibe i get from her. Got the same type of vibe from peterson even before he fell off.
This lady has been a professor at the naval war college for 25 years. You can find videos of her giving guest lectures at universities or conferences from like 10+ years ago.
 

Diophantus

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This lady has been a professor at the naval war college for 25 years. You can find videos of her giving guest lectures at universities or conferences from like 10+ years ago.
Tyson also has a phd in physics saxib. I think peterson was also a psysch prof for a long time. Being smart doesn't make you less susceptible to this. In fact, it might contribute to it (they think since they're so knowledgeable about one topic, this also implies they are an expert in a completely unrelated area).
 
Ama make this comment just so i can say "told you so" in the future. Anyways, i really get a bad vibe from this woman. Kinda like jordan peterson and neil degress tyson.

A real scholar shouldn't speak this way. What you say should not be entertaining, it should be dry and informative. Well explained, but still dry. If she is not an outright fraud, i think she likes to significantly simplify things to the point they border on fiction?

Idk, just a vibe i get from her. Got the same type of vibe from peterson even before he fell off.
i get what you mean but disagree with your point, learning should be fun and captivates the audience however youre totally right she reads like a conservative puppet
 

cunug3aad

3rdchild · Alwaax
Ethiopian perceptions didnt change much for 2 reasons reason 1 being that the russian empire was still a formidable foe to defeat in a war so by beating them japan gains notoriety as a new rising power. However italy was always pretty irrelevant even when muesolini came and influenced hitler they were maskiin country. They peaked 1900 years ago

Reason 2 is because japanese were white and ethiopians were black
 

Ashraf

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It’s funny the ancient romans used to call English people, “Barbarians incapable of civilisation” only for them to inherit the glory of Rome. And turn central London into the most dense place for their classical architecture all the while demonising the same people that founded the city😂 it used to be called londinium ffs
 
It’s funny the ancient romans used to call English people, “Barbarians incapable of civilisation” only for them to inherit the glory of Rome. And turn central London into the most dense place for their classical architecture all the while demonising the same people that founded the city😂 it used to be called londinium ffs
The West never inherited "the glory of Rome." This notion of continuity is a-historic fiction. Rome effectively colonized and taxed Germanics and other peoples found in Central Europe, introducing an extractionary infrastructure and control-based apparatus for the gain of Rome's central.

After the Western Roman Empire collapsed, all the hallmarks of Roman presence in Western Europe went out with it, with all the regions returning to completely local rule, reverting to their old ways, eliminating the taxation systems, architecture left behind, etc.

They try to associate the Catholic Church with Rome, but the Catholic Church was not Rome; it used certain Roman-sourced functions for administrative processes, but the domain of Central Europe was basically medieval chiefdoms, with this theologically based church being a fragmented religious-based order that used Roman symbolism to hold pseudo-power while pretending they never wanted it. In practice, their elusive games that had a real impact on the medieval regions were extremely distinct from Rome.

We have fraudsters linking this so-called continuity by pointing at the Catholic Church, that were of Roman origin, emphasizing aspects like how the religious body used Latin as a liturgical mode -- all that is nonsensical because Rome was an empire, the catholic church was a religious organ that only claimed to have Roman continuity for the value judgment of legitimization on the collective feudalistic notions of medieval Europeans totally detached of such reality.

The catholic Church has more impact on Western civilization than Rome. That is the irony. Christianity during the post-Roman world set various conditions that incentivized globalization, making rulers under the Church form greater regional connectivity. There is a reason why aristocrats, royals, and dukes had mixed backgrounds, since they had more in common with elites of other kingdoms than their poor citizens.

It was during the Early Modern Era were these "enlightenment" concepts appeared, where these Europeans started to draw ideas together that indeed shape today's secular nations to a high extent. The irony was, these "enlightenment thinkers" used the Greek and Roman civilizations to draw upon an imagined ambitious projection, as a way to craft a trajectory away from the entrenched medieval religious and feudal bodies. It is also worth noting that Europe was highly structured already in the macro-sense by the time these secularists were crafting the newer stage for a separate collective ideal-based thinking, which in reality was a mixture of diverse thinking but more defined by its time than the past, and also entirely discontinuous from the Greco-Roman conception of continuous inheritance.

If one knows philosophy, European thinkers such as Hume and Kant shaped European thinking more so in the critiques and discourse of Greek thinking than in adopting Hellenic philosophy. At best, these Westerners point to this discourse and say, "That is a Greek inheritance," which is performative and utterly irrelevant because it is merely aesthetics, costuming. Sort of posturing without substance, and surely has no legs to stand on in this conversation.

And secondly, man, the architecture of European cities was inspired by the past, but they also had their own innovation. Rome or Greece never looked like Vienna. All houses today have a myriad of influences that escape the average person outside the field of architecture. But you can ask any person within that discipline, and they will tell you that what makes the typical suburban house is the culmination of many diverse housing designs. Europe had many stages of architecture that used Rome and Greece as inspiration, but it had innovative epochs; the same can be said for art in general. It was more of an inspiration than a sign of continuity.

London was not a large hub until the 16th-17th century. That is when you see the London you know of today appear. The architecture you see today was defined by these artistic epochs of Early Modern Europeans that had cultivated an innovative charge rather than claiming Roman or Greek heritage or a false revival (although I would not put it past these pretenious artists to think they revived things because they were pompous people).
 

Mohamedamiin120

Marxist-Leninist, OG.
Ama make this comment just so i can say "told you so" in the future. Anyways, i really get a bad vibe from this woman. Kinda like jordan peterson and neil degress tyson.

A real scholar shouldn't speak this way. What you say should not be entertaining, it should be dry and informative. Well explained, but still dry. If she is not an outright fraud, i think she likes to significantly simplify things to the point they border on fiction?

Idk, just a vibe i get from her. Got the same type of vibe from peterson even before he fell off.

She spends 99% of her life saying China will fall any day now. Enough said really- western qashin.
 

Hilmaam

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Japan was and continues to be great manufacturer. What did Ethiopia produce for its war to be considered threat they bought their weapons. And also got supplied by other Europeans competing against Italy. Thats why nobody feared Ethiopia they had big army and gave Italy business but it was in there back yard. Can they do what Italy did play offensive and go attack in Europe.Can they do what Japan did and fight wars in China and Korea and produce weapons and boats again no.

Japan got almost all of the stuff they made from Europe expertise and licenses but they still manufactured in house without this u can’t do major sustained offensive and be feared
 
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Japan was and continues to be great manufacturer. What did Ethiopia produce for its war to be considered threat they bought there weapons. And also got supplied by other Europeans competing against Italy. Thats why nobody feared Ethiopia they had big army and gave Italy business but it was in there back yard. Can they do what Italy did play offensive and go attack in Europe.Can they do what Japan did and fight wars in China and Korea and produce weapons and boats again no.

Japan got almost all of the stuff they made from Europe expertise and licenses but they still manufactured in house without this u can’t do major sustained offensive and be feared
Tokyo was the largest city in the world in the 1600s. The japanse were always seen as major players. After rhe Americans arrived in the 1850s and forced Japan to open up. One of the first things the japanse decided to do was to build a modern navy and the Dutch literally gifted them a warship
 

Hilmaam

Aabe kan yar iga celiyoo kan weyn igu sii daa.
VIP
Tokyo was the largest city in the world in the 1600s. The japanse were always seen as major players. After rhe Americans arrived in the 1850s and forced Japan to open up. One of the first things the japanse decided to do was to build a modern navy and the Dutch literally gifted them a warship
yes they quickly adapted european technologies after being humiliated. they were forced to open up trade and also had western ideals and religions like christianity opposed upon them by europeans who saw them as savages. which is crazy for all the castles, sword/metallurgy and city building they did. ethiopia stil struggling with manufacturing almost 100 years later
 

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