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[Itsnotthateasy]

How many times have your folks predicted the down fall of PL.. But PL will stay strong so will Harti Insha'Allah, and SL won't touch an inch of Harti soil. Go seek independence with what you have now sxb

I'm just saying it how it is.

Mogadishu is plotting Puntland's downfall as we speak. Right after they divide Jubbaland and take down Madobe.

They already have their police chief and he has his own militias and they have him on the payroll.
Like I said you guys keep looking at Somaliland when every president of Somalia has escalated on Puntland, Farmajo was worse than HSM 1, and HSM 2 is worse than Farmajo, this trend will keep going. Puntland elites know this.

SSC will be one of the fronts used when they come for Puntland while you scream Harti lol.

You see the FGS is built for the cabal of Hawiye clans in Mogadishu. This is their government. They don't want to disturb their fiefdoms (divided Mogadishu) they stole after the fall of the central governemnt so the government is weak by design. They all benefit from having a slice of the capital. Even better if they can force others to move down there.

That being said they want to take money from the entire legal territiory known as Somalia including Puntland. That means no government servies, no security plus the assets are taxed by Mogadishu. This is the best way. The means to achieve it is to destablize and divide and then take over the revenue generating assets (ports and airports). This can be achieved without a major militiary intervention just invest in financing opposition and militias, there is always someone disgruntled they can use. Divide and conquer it's simple and it won't be no great battle just death by a thousand cuts.

 

[Abdisamad]

I'm just saying it how it is.

Mogadishu is plotting Puntland's downfall as we speak. Right after they divide Jubbaland and take down Madobe.

They already have their police chief and he has his own militias and they have him on the payroll.
Like I said you guys keep looking at Somaliland when every president of Somalia has escalated on Puntland, Farmajo was worse than HSM 1, and HSM 2 is worse than Farmajo, this trend will keep going. Puntland elites know this.

SSC will be one of the fronts used when they come for Puntland while you scream Harti lol.

You see the FGS is built for the cabal of Hawiye clans in Mogadishu. This is their government. They don't want to disturb their fiefdoms (divided Mogadishu) they stole after the fall of the central governemnt so the government is weak by design. They all benefit from having a slice of the capital. Even better if they can force others to move down there.

That being said they want to take money from the entire legal territiory known as Somalia including Puntland. That means no government servies, no security plus the assets are taxed by Mogadishu. This is the best way. The means to achieve it is to destablize and divide and then take over the revenue generating assets (ports and airports). This can be achieved without a major militiary intervention just invest in financing opposition and militias, there is always someone disgruntled they can use. Divide and conquer it's simple and it won't be no great battle just death by a thousand cuts.

Qoslaye will be gone within a year sxb.. And why do you sound like one of those kids claiming to be Puntlanders telling me Harti is dead and gone.. Is this the new tactic?

Just for your info, despite our internal disagreements and what not we always come to each others aid when things look the most bleak..

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

Qoslaye will be gone within a year sxb.. And why do you sound like one of those kids claiming to be Puntlanders telling me Harti is dead and gone.. Is this the new tactic?

Just for your info, despite our internal disagreements and what not we always come to each others aid when things look the most bleak..

Was that true in Siad Barre regime? Nope.


Is it true today?

 

[Medeea]

I'm just saying it how it is.

Mogadishu is plotting Puntland's downfall as we speak. Right after they divide Jubbaland and take down Madobe.

They already have their police chief and he has his own militias and they have him on the payroll.
Like I said you guys keep looking at Somaliland when every president of Somalia has escalated on Puntland, Farmajo was worse than HSM 1, and HSM 2 is worse than Farmajo, this trend will keep going. Puntland elites know this.

SSC will be one of the fronts used when they come for Puntland while you scream Harti lol.

You see the FGS is built for the cabal of Hawiye clans in Mogadishu. This is their government. They don't want to disturb their fiefdoms (divided Mogadishu) they stole after the fall of the central governemnt so the government is weak by design. They all benefit from having a slice of the capital. Even better if they can force others to move down there.

That being said they want to take money from the entire legal territiory known as Somalia including Puntland. That means no government servies, no security plus the assets are taxed by Mogadishu. This is the best way. The means to achieve it is to destablize and divide and then take over the revenue generating assets (ports and airports). This can be achieved without a major militiary intervention just invest in financing opposition and militias, there is always someone disgruntled they can use. Divide and conquer it's simple and it won't be no great battle just death by a thousand cuts.

This pretty much sums up the two mafias in the north.

 

[Thegoodshepherd]

SL army disintegrated in 23 war, SL cannot pay the salary of its policemen let alone its army, the only protection it has is the lull in the conflict + clan militias of varying sizes.

Enough of this Boomer PL zionist esque warmongering. FGS will side with SL over PL, and they will try a pincer on us, when they sit outside baraxley and Yoocade, you’ll look a right dunce.

Somaliland's budget is bigger than ever and it has revamped its military. It is more powerful & more united now than at any point since 2010. Somaliland's budget is 2.5x larger than that of Puntland and the gap in absolute terms (which is what militarily matters) is growing.

The entire military power of Hawiye is not sufficient to defeat Faarax Shirwac. There is zero threat from koonfur. The fact that you think Puntland's southern border is in any danger shows me that you are a retard.

A novel problem MJ now have is low IQ clan members, like yourself and @Aarka Nugaal (likely a sheegato), thinking that you are smart because you are MJ. MJ had a reputation for intelliegence because we put our best people at the top, not because we are smarter than other Somalis. Now that we have a dunce like Deni in charge, a man whose grandfather was a serf of Keenadiid's is running circles around us while having Ugandan women escort him to the restroom.

Total humiliation.

 

[Itsnotthateasy]

This pretty much sums up the two mafias in the north.
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Thanks fake Hawiye account.

I've never heard a HAG make a point before except boosting some policy or denying something. They don't really care about politics except deciding who will be presdent.

There's a whole lot of fake hawiye accounts. They all write too much words and try to explain the position. Real HAG don't do that.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Somaliland's budget is bigger than ever and it has revamped its military. It is more powerful & more united now than at any point since 2010. Somaliland's budget is 2.5x larger than that of Puntland and the gap in absolute terms (which is what militarily matters) is growing.

The entire military power of Hawiye is not sufficient to defeat Faarax Shirwac. There is zero threat from koonfur. The fact that you think Puntland's southern border is in any danger shows me that you are a retard.

A novel problem MJ now have is low IQ clan members, like yourself and @Aarka Nugaal (likely a sheegato), thinking that you are smart because you are MJ. MJ had a reputation for intelliegence because we put our best people at the top, not because we are smarter than other Somalis. Now that we have a dunce like Deni in charge, a man whose grandfather was a serf of Keenadiid's is running circles around us while having Ugandan women escort him to the restroom.

Total humiliation.

Only a dunce like you would take my “look south” statement literally, as far as I’m concerned and from what I’ve read and seen, Somaliland doesn’t have the military capabilities to overwhelm sool iyo sanaag as of now, the only time I can see them looking east is when FGS proxies try to ensure a power vacuum occurs in the north. In short they are biding their time.

As for the sheegato accusations and Deni insults I will not entertain nor reply to low iq non MJ FKD. Matter of fact I’m at a loss as to why you still try to make these points when most MJ on this forum don’t even think you’re one of them.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

That's your understanding of qabiil from central n southern areas it's not reer bari or even Nugaal to a certain extent but ex hobyo sultanate culture that got pushed thru the syl while boqor Osman was in house arrest and sultan of Makhir in prison plus exiled.

Mohamed Harti was a common father only no different to Salah Harti n Warsangeli is Habar Majerten too when ppl say mj it technically means warsangeli too as they came out of majerten isse woman womb.

The issue is we in Osman Mahmoud see each other as foreign as foreign gets due to habar and it's seriousness which isn't serious in mudug or southern cultures. MJ is just a 91 thing niyahow or SSDF legacy, prior to that it didn't exist as each clan pursued their own alliances for their sub clan interest in the civil era Sharmarke with cigaal, aden adde with abdirazaq, Hassan abshir with local abgaal clans.

I don’t put too much stock on Harti lore but it’s emergence probably signalled some form military or regional alliance.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

You are very naive bro. Somali politics is monkey business.

Well it’s my position which is held by most puntland statesmen! Make of that what you will.

 

[Abdisamad]

Well it’s my position which is held by most puntland statesmen! Make of that what you will.

I truly believe you are not a sheegato account and you believe your views are good for MJ interest, I respect that bro.. My view goes beyond that and covers what's best for the broader Harti.. I think two federal brotherly adminstrations would serve us all well. We just need to get rid of all the arrogant politicians such as Deni, Firdhiye and Qoslaye etc.. They all need to go and we need a better leadership in place.. Just for the record even before all these conflicts I've been very skeptical about HSM, Deni and Firdhiye.. I never had any confidence in these politicians.. Each one of them is arrogant and self serving while our people are suffering and living on aid, youth is unemployed and there's no good future prospective for anyone.. Instead of addressing and solving their differences each one is aiming to undermine the other.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

I truly believe you are not a sheegato account and you believe your views are good for MJ interest, I respect that bro.. My view goes beyond that and covers what's best for the broader Harti.. I think two federal brotherly adminstrations would serve us all well. We just need to get rid of all the arrogant politicians such as Deni, Firdhiye and Qoslaye etc.. They all need to go and we need a better leadership in place.. Just for the record even before all these conflicts I've been very skeptical about HSM, Deni and Firdhiye.. I never had any confidence in these politicians.. Each one of them is arrogant and self serving while our people are suffering and living on aid, youth is unemployed and there's no good future prospective for anyone.. Instead of addressing and solving their differences each one is aiming to undermine the other.

Yes and I wish money grew on trees and I could fly in the sky. We ultimately have to deal in reality and be practical. Too much idealism and mere sentiment is why we are in this position in the first place.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

I truly believe you are not a sheegato account and you believe your views are good for MJ interest, I respect that bro.. My view goes beyond that and covers what's best for the broader Harti.. I think two federal brotherly adminstrations would serve us all well. We just need to get rid of all the arrogant politicians such as Deni, Firdhiye and Qoslaye etc.. They all need to go and we need a better leadership in place.. Just for the record even before all these conflicts I've been very skeptical about HSM, Deni and Firdhiye.. I never had any confidence in these politicians.. Each one of them is arrogant and self serving while our people are suffering and living on aid, youth is unemployed and there's no good future prospective for anyone.. Instead of addressing and solving their differences each one is aiming to undermine the other.

 

[Malsi]

Yes and I wish money grew on trees and I could fly in the sky. We ultimately have to deal in reality and be practical. Too much idealism and mere sentiment is why we are in this position in the first place.

He reminds me of that Caduun reer Mudug kid on youtube.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

He reminds me of that Caduun reer Mudug kid on youtube.

He’s a patriot. Just like me.

 

[Abdisamad]

He reminds me of that Caduun reer Mudug kid on youtube.

Who's the kid in reference

 

[Malsi]

Who's the kid in reference

Waxaan foosha xun. Maxamed C/rizaaq Warsame needs to do shaqo fiican on this kid. He needs to be hit with a long dhangad.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Waxaan foosha xun. Maxamed C/rizaaq Warsame needs to do shaqo fiican on this kid. He needs to be hit with a long dhangad.

Newsflash sxb youtube Somali politics channels are usually bombastic, also he’s more loose tongued than me and still on this harti programming. I don’t see similarities apart from basic shared opinion that theres a power vacuum in the making if PL government doesn’t exert pressure.

 

[Abdisamad]

Waxaan foosha xun. Maxamed C/rizaaq Warsame needs to do shaqo fiican on this kid. He needs to be hit with a long dhangad.

Thanks for sharing bro, he makes perfect sense to me.. Well versed and informative, I agree Deni has been a failure otherwise he won't have been check mated by Qoslaye and the low iq marxuumka.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Thanks for sharing bro, he makes perfect sense to me.. Well versed and informative, I agree Deni has been a failure otherwise he won't have been check mated by Qoslaye and the low iq marxuumka.

@Abdisamad you are really a peaceable and non argumentative fellow I noticed, which is rare for men of our country. Real Sufi!

 

[Abdisamad]

@Abdisamad you are really a peaceable and non argumentative fellow I noticed, which is rare for men of our country. Real Sufi!

Arguing back and forth without any results is useless and waste of time brother, I practice self reflection and self evaluation, even if I think my views or strategy are correct I continually evaluate things. Isn't Sufi a reference to someone who's light headed? I'm actually far from a Sufi..