Rise of Empires: Ottoman
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It’s OttomAn
Yes I’m a big grammar nazi
U should learn about Muhammad Bire, conqueror of Hooyo’s malawax and shaax
Yes I’m a big grammar nazi
U should learn about Muhammad Bire, conqueror of Hooyo’s malawax and shaax
Sorry, it loool it was the feminist #Metoo in me that eliminated the ',man' looooooooooooooooool
I heard the empire was called the exalted state of rome. The ottomans never truly had a unique culture.... they were a blend of roman, persian and islamic traditions. They even started using french as their tongue of academia towards the end of the empire. The British pimped them out with loans to finance their needless wars.... and they eventually collapsed.
Fun fact...they built sophisticated ships that would hav eventually founded the Americas
But guys....I have one tiny issue that I need to bring up!
Of course our prophet pbuh predicted Muslims will conquer Constantinople, but Mehmet II could not have done it without the special armies made of Roman youth slaves, who are White and trained as killer soldiers.
Why couldn' they train their own Persians Pashas?
What is it about White races that are brave and bold to die in wars in armies and mass?
Look at American military's. White boys in mass ready to die in the name of military's.
While our Pasha Saudis are busy eating barriss and drink dark coffeee
With Arabs--bravery comes in the form of lone terrorists who are suicidal.
With Whites bravery comes in mass population
Mehmet II could not have won his Constantinople without these captured slave white boys who later became Sultans and contaminated the line of Sultan line with White race mixed with Persian spice
Of course our prophet pbuh predicted Muslims will conquer Constantinople, but Mehmet II could not have done it without the special armies made of Roman youth slaves, who are White and trained as killer soldiers.
Why couldn' they train their own Persians Pashas?
What is it about White races that are brave and bold to die in wars in armies and mass?
Look at American military's. White boys in mass ready to die in the name of military's.
While our Pasha Saudis are busy eating barriss and drink dark coffeee
With Arabs--bravery comes in the form of lone terrorists who are suicidal.
With Whites bravery comes in mass population
Mehmet II could not have won his Constantinople without these captured slave white boys who later became Sultans and contaminated the line of Sultan line with White race mixed with Persian spice
Cadaans are born for complex military combat...they are not scared of anything even if they are severly outmatched. They are disciplined and organizational..two things that other groups lack. The seige of vienna showed their might and the battle with charlemegne demonstrated this.
The persians are indo-european in culture so they have that same toughness like cadaans just not well organized.
Arabs are not built for structured, complex combat...thats why they had so much success in early years of the caliphate which was based purely on swarming tactics but struggled later on and in modern times
Fantastic analysis Abdi Nur
SO will u clearly agree, ALL races are not created equally? Every race has a good strong side and a weak side.
Cadaans are best suited in bravery, organization and discipline
Plenty of successful Middle Eastern empires and dynasties had huge White/Persian slave soldiers.
For instance, The Ikhsidid dynasty that used to Rule Egypt in 10th century had 500k loyal slave soldiers at one point. Who needs local armies when you can have blind ancestorless slave soldiers of this quantity.
Yes but to be honest arabs are 'really brave' also... they just arent really disciplined.
Whats makes me admire arabs is that despite their lack of military skill and technology they dont worship or hesitate to confront cadaans even if their tactics are foolish. Thats why cadaans have alway respected arabs. They are not like Indians or Madows who worship them to the ground.
Even during the middle ages arabs were demoralizing and enslaving whites so much that white powers had to compromise with arabs to only enslave Madows
It's not the best presentation of historical account.
@Abdi Nur
I just completed the entire series. I wish they would have just heard academic speak about Mehmet than having actors play out his story.
I went to Wikipedia and I was SHOCKED to learn Mehmet was bisexual?
In the series Mehmet keeps on quoting Alexander the great. I thought it was odd because Alexander was also bisexual.
Wikipedia says he had male lovers. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl
Unless all conquerors are given gay or bisexual labels because of their great name and myth! But I was surprised. lol
I just completed the entire series. I wish they would have just heard academic speak about Mehmet than having actors play out his story.
I went to Wikipedia and I was SHOCKED to learn Mehmet was bisexual?
In the series Mehmet keeps on quoting Alexander the great. I thought it was odd because Alexander was also bisexual.
Wikipedia says he had male lovers. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOl
Unless all conquerors are given gay or bisexual labels because of their great name and myth! But I was surprised. lol
I don’t know why you say Arabs where unorganized. They had the best cavalry in the world. Ottoman Jannisaries was an army feared by the west. Especially during the reign of Süleyman 10. He sieged Vienna because the Hungarians killed his messenger.
The Islamic Caliphates army was always high disciplined and had a good morale because no one was afraid to die. They knew that Jannah was awaiting them if they died. As fearful as Vikings that waited for Valhalla.
The Islamic Caliphates army was always high disciplined and had a good morale because no one was afraid to die. They knew that Jannah was awaiting them if they died. As fearful as Vikings that waited for Valhalla.
I searched his Wiki and couldn't find any homosexual references.
"Mehmed had a "reliably attested" passion for his hostage and favourite, Radu the Fair.[89] Young men condemned to death were spared and added to Mehmed's seraglio if he found them attractive, and the Porte went to great lengths to procure young noblemen for him. Jacob Notaras is a notable example; he was the only male member of Grand Duke Loukas Notaras' family to avoid execution following the fall of Constantinople, and was confined to Mehmed's seraglio as an adolescent until his escape in 1460.[90]"
@sincity Read Under "Personal Life"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_the_Conqueror
[90] Marios Philippides; Walter K. Hanak (2011). The" Siege and the Fall of Constantinople in 1453: Historiography, Topography, and Military Studies. Ashgate Publishing, Ltd. p. 255-256. ISBN 978-1-4094-1064-5
This is the only source used. It is claimed by Marios Phillippides. A white man which probably is butt hurt about Constantinople being taken by a muslim or maybe he got fake news in his book. Byzantine often wrote bad stuff about Turks. Mehmet II was definetly not gay.
prophet Muhammad — “One day Constantinople will be conquered. Great is the commander who will conquer it. Great are his soldiers.”
This is what Prophet Muhammad said. Which one do you think is most truthfull?
This is the only source used. It is claimed by Marios Phillippides. A white man which probably is butt hurt about Constantinople being taken by a muslim or maybe he got fake news in his book. Byzantine often wrote bad stuff about Turks. Mehmet II was definetly not gay.
prophet Muhammad — “One day Constantinople will be conquered. Great is the commander who will conquer it. Great are his soldiers.”
This is what Prophet Muhammad said. Which one do you think is most truthfull?
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