RETURN OF THE MACK - WHY ONLY STRONG CONFEDERACY TYPE WILL SAVE SOMALIA AND WHY XAMAR CANNOT BECOME A STATE

[Farjano-Walad]

ITS I TEERI, BACK. TO KARBASH ENEMIES,

DON'T HAVE TIME NOW, BUT INSHA ALLAH I WILL WRITE IN THIS THREAD WHY WE NEED A STRONG CONFEDERACY, FEDERALISM IS NOT EVEN STRONG ENOUGH, IN ORDER TO SAVE SOMALIA AND MAKE SURE CERTAIN LANGABS NEVER EVER MONOPOLISED CENTRALISED SOMALIA AGAIN

I WILL ALSO EXPLAIN WHY THE YOUNG US REFUSED WASHINGTON DC TO HAVE A STATEHOOD STATUS AND THE WISDOM AND WHY SOME SOCIALIST AMERICANS WANT WASHINGTON TO BECOME THE 51ST STATE AND WHY XAMAR CANNOT HAVE A STATEHOOD/REGIONAL MEMBERSHIP

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Welcome back Ugaas Teeri.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

there is a strong parallel, certain DSA-Democratic socialist of America -want to make DC the 51st state, originally Maryland and commonwealth of Virginia gave land to make the capital, but in return it was not allowed to have a statehood, or senators or congress reps,

the wisdom behind that was to avoid senators or congress reps using the capital to become entangled with daily politics for the senate and congress, to avoid this, the capital was not allowed any senator and congress reps so to make it focus on the whole nation rather than have her representatives entangled with daily politics in the local arena and also have the muscles of the capital to push certain benefits for that state/capital at the detriment of the other states who obviously will lack the influence of the capital,

giving xamar/benedir a regional statehood will create a biased statues where the capital is also a state and thus will have much more power and influence since its the sitting capital,

HAG has 2 regional states, D-block has 2 regions, we are already equal in numbers and also 60 Mps each, no need to rock the boat, otherwise kab-iyo Lax will be forced to reconsider this whole project called somalia, since there really is no other d-block, with out kab-iyo lax in east africa, the other D-blocks are powerless in reality in terms of poltical influence, lands and power across the horn or somalia proper,

if a third HAG state will be made from xamar and benadir, then i would like to see a Khaatumo state created to counter act it and 13 senators given to D-block, all kablalax, 100% since the 5th column fake small teeth column are in reality HAG in culture and mental slavery mindset,

a dhulbahante owned state khaatumo to counter act HAG stronghold in xamar must be established and the capital must become tri-capital like in south africa with 3 capitals where xamar is weakened to avoid potential abuse f power,

no way will we ever allow HAG to have such power, for one they cannot handle it and do not know how to use it since they became somali in 1960 and ilbax, and 2 they cannot be trusted until they get house in order and put tribe aside, sorry cannot trust them yet, too like the Rwandan murderers,

harti should put aside all their differences and make sure dhulbahante has a state to counter act a benedir state and demand 13 senators created for D-block across soamlia

think not about just today like farmajo and his kin but about 20, 200 years time and how we will be handing over our balls on a palate by the 5th column from fart city

its 4.5, not HAG point 5

 

[Galmudug-State]

I support confederation but Mogadishu has to become a state. That is not even up for discussion. It will happen. Abgaal are the largest clan within Hawiye, they are landheere and as their younger brother i will always back them up.

Sometimes my Abgaal people are slow in the head. Some people convinced them that I am their worst enemy. But today they understand what Aidiid told them was always the truth. They always used to say Mogadishu belongs to all Somali's just to irritate HG.

They need to build a huge statue of General Mohamed Farah Aidid in the centre of Mogadishu.
I don't even care if they take all 13 seats cos I got Galmudug state. I want Diamond city and Mogadishu to be twin cities.

 

[Galmudug-State]

there is a strong parallel, certain DSA-Democratic socialist of America -want to make DC the 51st state, originally Maryland and commonwealth of Virginia gave land to make the capital, but in return it was not allowed to have a statehood, or senators or congress reps,

the wisdom behind that was to avoid senators or congress reps using the capital to become entangled with daily politics for the senate and congress, to avoid this, the capital was not allowed any senator and congress reps so to make it focus on the whole nation rather than have her representatives entangled with daily politics in the local arena and also have the muscles of the capital to push certain benefits for that state/capital at the detriment of the other states who obviously will lack the influence of the capital,

giving xamar/benedir a regional statehood will create a biased statues where the capital is also a state and thus will have much more power and influence since its the sitting capital,

HAG has 2 regional states, D-block has 2 regions, we are already equal in numbers and also 60 Mps each, no need to rock the boat, otherwise kab-iyo Lax will be forced to reconsider this whole project called somalia, since there really is no other d-block, with out kab-iyo lax in east africa, the other D-blocks are powerless in reality in terms of poltical influence, lands and power across the horn or somalia proper,

if a third HAG state will be made from xamar and benadir, then i would like to see a Khaatumo state created to counter act it and 13 senators given to D-block, all kablalax, 100% since the 5th column fake small teeth column are in reality HAG in culture and mental slavery mindset,

a dhulbahante owned state khaatumo to counter act HAG stronghold in xamar must be established and the capital must become tri-capital like in south africa with 3 capitals where xamar is weakened to avoid potential abuse f power,

no way will we ever allow HAG to have such power, for one they cannot handle it and do not know how to use it since they became somali in 1960 and ilbax, and 2 they cannot be trusted until they get house in order and put tribe aside, sorry cannot trust them yet, too like the Rwandan murderers,

harti should put aside all their differences and make sure dhulbahante has a state to counter act a benedir state and demand 13 senators created for D-block across soamlia

think not about just today like farmajo and his kin but about 20, 200 years time and how we will be handing over our balls on a palate by the 5th column from fart city

its 4.5, not HAG point 5

Nobody is asking for your permission about Banadir becoming a state, just as you never asked us permission about creating Jubbaland which itself has huge hawiye population without no representation.

I think Abgaal and all the other hawiye's are starting to wake up. These slow minded people used to say that we are Mooryaan an selfish. Now they are starting to understand what we have already seen. Burn that blue flag and be like Puntland, put your own people first.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

I support confederation but Mogadishu has to become a state. That is not even up for discussion. It will happen. Abgaal are the largest clan within Hawiye, they are landheere and as their younger brother i will always back them up.

Sometimes my Abgaal people are slow in the head. Some people convinced them that I am their worst enemy. But today they understand what Aidiid told them was always the truth. They always used to say Mogadishu belongs to all Somali's just to irritate HG.

They need to build a huge statue of General Mohamed Farah Aidid in the centre of Mogadishu.
I don't even care if they take all 13 seats cos I got Galmudug state. I want Diamond city and Mogadishu to be twin cities.

Fine, have your state

Abgal already has hiirshabelle and shares hiirshabelle with hawadly, xamar is full of jarers, eley, xamari people etc

but, 1) Khaatumo must also become a state and somaliland inavded and crushed to create a dhulbahnate state, and sicne benedir is not even a gobal and galnus is not a state according to the dastuur, let khaatumo exist

2) create a south africa like capital with 3 capitals, kismayo, xamar and garowe, and let the president stay in 1 capital every year and the 4th year, 1 capital every 4 months so he is not holed up in xamar, let garowe get the senate and kimsayo the parliament

3) any senators or reps xamar state gets so will darood khattumo, puntland and Jubaland,

4) hawiye will not get 100% of the seats for xamar state, it will be shared with cadcad, xamari, jarer and the eley refugees who make up 35%, deal?

dont ask me for arm and a leg whilst yuo only pull one single hair , you agree to it, i will agree to your points,

 

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[Galmudug-State]

Fine, have your state

Abgal already has hiirshabelle and shares hiirshabelle with hawadly, xamar is full of madows, eley, xamari people etc

but, 1) Khaatumo must also become a state and somaliland inavded and crushed to create a dhulbahnate state, and sicne benedir is not even a gobal and galnus is not a state according to the dastuur, let khaatumo exist

2) create a south africa like capital with 3 capitals, kismayo, xamar and garowe, and let the president stay in 1 capital every year and the 4th year, 1 capital every 4 months so he is not holed up in xamar, let garowe get the senate and kimsayo the parliament

3) any senators or reps xamar state gets so will darood khattumo, puntland and Jubaland,

4) hawiye will not get 100% of the seats for xamar state, it will be shared with cadcad, xamari, madow and the eley refugees who make up 35%, deal?

dont ask me for arm and a leg whilst yuo only pull one single hair , you agree to it, i will agree to your points,

My people fought and died to create Galmudug, what is stopping you from fighting Somaliland and creating your Khaatumo state. Once you take back Khaatumoo than yes you can have seats.


Hiirshebelle belongs to Xawaaadle, they are the boss of that state. Plus all HG wealth is in Mogadishu.

I believe that Hawiye must get 100% of the seats in Mogaishu same way all the seats in Jubbaland are almost Darood. Cadcad are from Yemen and Madow are from East Africa. So should have no seats.

If it was up to me I would give some of the seats to the smaller Hawiye like Gugadanbe etc. I need to take care of all my little Hawiye first. Give them some prestige.

But Abgaal will call the shots in Mog and I am a afraid that they are a bit slow in the head sometimes. Might even give our seats to Daroods. These people never surprise me.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Nobody is asking for your permission about Banadir becoming a state, just as you never asked us permission about creating Jubbaland which itself has huge hawiye population without no representation.

I think Abgaal and all the other hawiye's are starting to wake up. These slow minded people used to say that we are Mooryaan an selfish. Now they are starting to understand what we have already seen. Burn that blue flag and be like Puntland, put your own people first.

I dont need your permission for jubaland, for my ancestors were pissing and doing dhaanto in jubaland in 1820 when HG was being invaded by sultan kenadiid grandad,

xamar is the capital, you dont see us making issues with galnus though it doesn't meat the dastuur of statehood, but xamar is the capital and belongs to all somalis,

the capital belongs to all and no way we will allow you to have 13 senators, this is not galnus sxb, its the capital of the federal state

In November 1900 the British Sub-Commissioner in Jubaland, Arthur Jenner, was killed while making a tour of the interior through areas inhabited by the Ogaden tribe. This part of southern Somalia was at that time under British administration within the East Africa Protectorate, and had in the preceding months been largely peaceful – Jenner was travelling with only a light escort, and was probably killed at the instigation of an Ogaden chief

A British Reverse in East Africa - from the War Office Archive

A British Reverse in East Africa - from the War Office Archive

The recent attack by al-Shabab gunmen on a university in Garissa, north-eastern Kenya, demonstrates the threat still posed by the group, despite its losing control of the main cities and ports in Somalia. Conventional military tactics often prove ineffective against them, as they melt away and...

blogs.bl.uk

I was killing British governors in Kismayo and Jubaland when your people were being colonised by a somali clan -60 years before somalia existed,

i will not interfere with galnus just the way you dont have a say in jubaland, rag baa leh jubaland, but xamar is between us all warya

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Nobody is asking for your permission about Banadir becoming a state, just as you never asked us permission about creating Jubbaland which itself has huge hawiye population without no representation.

I think Abgaal and all the other hawiye's are starting to wake up. These slow minded people used to say that we are Mooryaan an selfish. Now they are starting to understand what we have already seen. Burn that blue flag and be like Puntland, put your own people first.

what hawiye population? please name them, the langab 1991 hawiye harti brought in the 1960s as servants to fight against Mohamed Zubeer during elections in kismayo?

how come this phantom 1991 hawiye is only hawiye when it suits you but you discard him like a tissue when you no longer need like gaaljecel,

LOOOl, kulaha huge hawiye population

please name these 1991 hawiye? and their degmos? loool

 

[Galmudug-State]

I dont need your permission for jubaland, for my ancestors were pissing and doing dhaanto in jubaland in 1820 when HG was being invaded by sultan kenadiid grandad,

xamar is the capital, you dont see us making issues with galnus though it doesn't meat the dastuur of statehood, but xamar is the capital and belongs to all somalis,

the capital belongs to all and no way we will allow you to have 13 senators, this is not galnus sxb, its the capital of the federal state



A British Reverse in East Africa - from the War Office Archive

A British Reverse in East Africa - from the War Office Archive

The recent attack by al-Shabab gunmen on a university in Garissa, north-eastern Kenya, demonstrates the threat still posed by the group, despite its losing control of the main cities and ports in Somalia. Conventional military tactics often prove ineffective against them, as they melt away and...

blogs.bl.uk

I was killing British governors in Kismayo and Jubaland when your people were being colonised by a somali clan -60 years before somalia existed,

i will not interfere with galnus just the way you dont have a say in jubaland, rag baa leh jubaland, but xamar is between us all warya

Sorry the capital does not belong to all. It is 100% Hawiye Same way the second capital Hargayesa only belongs to Isaac and 3rd capital kismayoo now you only claim as Darood.

 

[Galmudug-State]

what hawiye population? please name them, the langab 1991 hawiye harti brought in the 1960s as servants to fight against Mohamed Zubeer during elections in kismayo?

how come this phantom 1991 hawiye is only hawiye when it suits you but you discard him like a tissue when you no longer need like gaaljecel,

LOOOl, kulaha huge hawiye population

please name these 1991 hawiye? and their degmos? loool

Bruv, I am HG, landheere. I am busy with Galmudug development. I am not interested in this Hawiye Darood thing in the Jubba's at the moment. I think that you should be more worried about the hunter gatherers.


That said we did try to help the Hawiye's in the Jubba's but they called us occupation forces and Mooryaans etc. Told us to leave their land. Little did they know that we were only protecting them. But they now understand that Aidid, Indoadde and Gobaale were heroes not occupiers.
Brings a lot of bad memories, a brotherly people we tried to help who abused us, called us all names. Many of our youth died for nothing.

Continue with your Jubbaland, won't get involved. Not my problem any more.

 

[repo]

what hawiye population? please name them, the langab 1991 hawiye harti brought in the 1960s as servants to fight against Mohamed Zubeer during elections in kismayo?

how come this phantom 1991 hawiye is only hawiye when it suits you but you discard him like a tissue when you no longer need like gaaljecel,

LOOOl, kulaha huge hawiye population

please name these 1991 hawiye? and their degmos? loool

We are sorry we will ship them back to Bakool Hiran and the other places we acquired them from.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Sorry the capital does not belong to all. It is 100% Hawiye Same way the second capital Hargayesa only belongs to Isaac and 3rd capital kismayoo now you only claim as Darood.

Kismayo was always a darood city even virtually 100 years before somalia was created

This action on the part of the Muhammad Zubeir led to a bitter as early as 1873 Kirk had noticed two distinct settlements of Somali around Kismayu, the Herti and the Ogaden, the 2© had been no more than the usual rivalry between them and on many occasions they had helped each other in their struggles against the Tunni. Now, however, their rivalry was based on a blood feud since Muhammad Ismail, head of the Herti, had committed suicide after being arrested by the Arabs and their Ogaden allies. Ali Nahar, one of the most respected Herti leaders

i dare you to name me one marehan or hawiye or another somalis other than Ogaden and Harti even in 1873 travellers wrote books naming only Ogaden and harti in kismayo, Loool

here is the source, lets help somalis stop making shit up online keybaord warriors,

https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/29105/1/10731200.pdf

THE PASTORAL TRIBES OF NORTHERN KENYA 1800 - 1916 b y Edmund Romilly Turton

sources old boy sources, did you not go to university horta bro? seriously , Agah,

 

[Galmudug-State]

Kismayo was always a darood city even virtually 100 years before somalia was created



i dare you to name me one marehan or hawiye or another somalis other than Ogaden and Harti even in 1873 travellers wrote books naming only Ogaden and harti in kismayo, Loool

here is the source, lets help somalis stop making shit up online keybaord warriors,

https://eprints.soas.ac.uk/29105/1/10731200.pdf

THE PASTORAL TRIBES OF NORTHERN KENYA 1800 - 1916 b y Edmund Romilly Turton

sources old boy sources, did you not go to university horta bro? seriously , Agah,

I am not familiar with that part of the country. All I know is that Kismayoo changed hands many times. Ahmed Madoobe is a great leader who I believe really cares about the city. But he is being undermined by the Bush people who are jealous of Ogaden today holding the city. I prefer Kismayoo to be under Ogaden control than Bush people. Bush people are a real threat to me, just as much as you.

I suggest we build partnership. And work together to stabilize Somalia under a confederacy. Hawiye nor Mogadishu is not the enemy of Ogaden or Harti Darood. We support Jubbaland and Ahmed Madoobe said that he will be inclusive to all.

Attacking Benadir state helps bush people turn Hawiye against Jubbaland. They are trying very hard to o this.

 

[Farjano-Walad]

Bruv, I am HG, landheere. I am busy with Galmudug development. I am not interested in this Hawiye Darood thing in the Jubba's at the moment. I think that you should be more worried about the hunter gatherers.


That said we did try to help the Hawiye's in the Jubba's but they called us occupation forces and Mooryaans etc. Told us to leave their land. Little did they know that we were only protecting them. But they now understand that Aidid, Indoadde and Gobaale were heroes not occupiers.
Brings a lot of bad memories, a brotherly people we tried to help who abused us, called us all names. Many of our youth died for nothing.

Continue with your Jubbaland, won't get involved. Not my problem any more.

helped kulaha, yall killed galjecel in berhani and goobale grew weed and crack opium in jilib until he and hiiraale were ousted and had their backside kcked by Hassan turki and ahmed madoobe 3 times

no need to boast to me about laanderness bro, i am nin Ogaden ah, I am the definition of landeernimo, Qoraxey has more land than the entire Hawiye race has in central somalia,

i was conquering lands and expanding and fighting British and was taming and karbashing issaq in somaliland and Mj and their Italian allies in puntland and fighting in river tana in central kenyan whilst also shooting at the britihs and their ethiopian dogs in harar and also fighting the UK in giriri and rift valley and mount kenya,

when somalia became independent from Hawo Tako to Saiydka to Qamaan bulxaan to raage ugaas to king wiil waal has statues in xamar, all of the famous statues, schools and somali hero road names erected and named in 1960 were all Absame, never boast to an Ogaden that you are landeer, i am somali history, somali daqan and i expanded somali lands whilst other somalis slept and were busy searching for water hundreds of years ago, but i will forgive you for a true landeer like me doesnt mind another calling himself landeer, boast to yaryar like marehan

boast to marehans about being landeere, you control them and rule them now in galmudug,

you brought up HAG, i simply want a 4.5 being kept in place, if it will be abused, then everyone will become like somaliland and break away from this nation

dude this is like communist socialist heaven California demanding 5 new senators just for her so they can spite the Republicans, no way in hell will this go through or allowed insha Allah,

its politics and she sleeps in a different bed every night but we will try all we can to make sure our HAG friends do not do something they can kill this little peace flairs we have created so far,

but i must commend yall the way hawiye uses marehan as their pets to beat darood and give them something hawiye could never obtain on their own accord

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Welcome back Ugaas Teeri!

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

The only Somalis who were in Waamo were Harti and Ogaadeen, the Buuns told each other lies since 1991 and tried to convince all of Somaliwayn that Kismaayo is theirs. We all know the truth about who is native to Kismaayo and who squats in a military barrack.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

I support confederation but Mogadishu has to become a state. That is not even up for discussion. It will happen. Abgaal are the largest clan within Hawiye, they are landheere and as their younger brother i will always back them up.

Sometimes my Abgaal people are slow in the head. Some people convinced them that I am their worst enemy. But today they understand what Aidiid told them was always the truth. They always used to say Mogadishu belongs to all Somali's just to irritate HG.

They need to build a huge statue of General Mohamed Farah Aidid in the centre of Mogadishu.
I don't even care if they take all 13 seats cos I got Galmudug state. I want Diamond city and Mogadishu to be twin cities.

Reer Unuka Leh

Benaadir cannot be a federal state and host the capital city at the same time. If Abgaal want their own state, fine, but we must dismantle all the national buildings/materials and build a new capital.

Even the tiniest piece of copper should be taken out.

You guys want to eat national money and use international recognition to build a qabiil federal state.