Imagine if there was a referendum held inside our country to determine whether Somalia should have a confederal system / decentralised federal system with around 6 states or Somalia should have a unitary system / centralised federal system with 18 regions (13 if SL doesn't come back)? I believe the confederation/loose federalism option would win because the current federal states collectively have established a large amount of loyalty amongst the citizens
Referendum on federalism and states
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What do you think @Kheyre @Woke1.4rm.Shibis
Sxb there will be no referendum federalism anytime soon, the status quo will remain.
You're right brother, this is just a hypothetical scenario that wouldn't actually happen. Eid Mubarak
Where is the proof that clan states have a large amount of loyal citizens? Stop making baseless claims.
Clannists benefits from the current status quo which is far from democratic. Old men who only care to line their pockets, full of cuqdud, have no care about their nation and holding all the power.
The average age of Somalia is 16.7 years, they were born 15 years after the civil war. If the power were in the youth, the opposition would have no chance against Farmaajo who favours centralism.
Clannists benefits from the current status quo which is far from democratic. Old men who only care to line their pockets, full of cuqdud, have no care about their nation and holding all the power.
The average age of Somalia is 16.7 years, they were born 15 years after the civil war. If the power were in the youth, the opposition would have no chance against Farmaajo who favours centralism.
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OP, People will vote overwhelmingly for the cursed centralism including your xawadle people
bidenkulaha
GalYare
Countries are always more successful when they devolve power closer to the people. We should develop a council system culture.
Centralism always is a disaster the moment you elect a bad leader
Centralism always is a disaster the moment you elect a bad leader
Why? Centralism doesn't work for us
Woke1.4rm.Shibis
VIP
We can start with Giving somaliland ictiraaf it will end this confusion and this qashin 4.5 sharing .
Lose federalism with 5 -7 states sounds most appealing
Lose federalism with 5 -7 states sounds most appealing
Somalis generally hate anything that looks like division but at the same time go full retard with qabyalad. It’s the 68 caqli bro, emotional people.
Centralism to Federalism to Confederalism to Union of states to Independent states this will not resolve the clans fighting each other for resources, land, IC donations whatever the case is. The only thing that will mitigate clan rivalry is by increasing our national budget and working towards becoming a wealthy nation, poverty is breeding ground for clannism, in a rich society clannism is irrelevant and dies out.
Agree
MT Foxtrot
Anti-qabil
I disagree. Any political system that is improperly structured is open to abuse by corrupt leaders. The key to solving these issues is not by abandoning one system for another equally vulnerable system, but to create institutions that regulate bad behaviour. This means clear limits on government power, a robust and independent judiciary, a bill of rights that enshrines our democratic rights, free speech for journalists, and a means for changing political leadership.
I've said this before here but Somalis really need to learn the right lessons from their experiences with authoritarianism. The failure of the Somali Democratic Republic doesn't mean that a unitary state is unviable, it just means any system with unaccountable leaders is bad for the reasons you outlined.
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Utter shithole Somalia should be split, rather than Somalia I'm pro-Federal Puntland.
my future country will be the Federal Republic of Puntland.
my future country will be the Federal Republic of Puntland.
Guys shouldn't we not copy the same situation Ethiopia was in during the TPLF led EPRDF's 27 year rule whereby Ethiopia remained in practice centralised despite being officially a federation and Addis Ababa remained, just like pre-1991, the all dominant primate city to the detriment to the rest of that country
TPLF style fake federalism would make Somalia a one city state under a de facto unitary system
TPLF style fake federalism would make Somalia a one city state under a de facto unitary system
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