Apparently cheerleading for Isaaq is calling out the hypocrisy and qabyaalad from daroods
You're not entitled to our support. You do know we can all see the vitriol from both sides all over social media
Reer SSC claiming to have been part of Gaalkacyo wars to get help from PL brothers? Are we supporting a cause/community publicly admitting bloodshed?
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You're not entitled to our support. You do know we can all see the vitriol from both sides all over social media“Are we supporting” kulaha, who said Hawiye are supporting Rer SSC? You lot need to stop forcing this narrative of Laascaanod or SSC begging Hawiye support. Wallahi I mean no offense saying this, but the support of the Hawiye is ultimately useless. They don’t border you nor do they interact with you so f*ck off, Mahadsanid saaxib.
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An ogaden wise man back in the 90s when I was in hamar said Harti n Hawiye war is stalemate but if ogaden join, they will scream IRIR djibouti, isaaq, dirs. I will add to that HAG will even 'call madow' ppl to join and name them madow samale. Their doing that with shabab collecting shoe shiner kids
I think their is some wisdom to ogaden man saying, it's always been in my mind and why when mentioning darod i mention irir.
I think their is some wisdom to ogaden man saying, it's always been in my mind and why when mentioning darod i mention irir.
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There are two types of Hawiye; HG who looks at this war from the perspective that Mj are with their cousins and fellow Puntlanders against Isaaq/SL so they are with Isaaaq against Dhulbahante to spite MJ. The other type of Hawiye has no borders with PL and are not related to Isaaq by genes, culture, dialect and geography yet are chearleading for Isaaq out of Daarood naceyb
On the other hand, Isaaq is with their Al Shabaab enemy who kills them daily so they can tell the world that the Al Shabaab rules them and that it is not possible to negotiate with the them(Hawiye Govt). The latter type ignores their real enemy.
When they see me they think im "chearleading for Daarood" when yesterday Al shabaab attacked us from three fronts(Goobo in maxaas, Afcad in Jalalaqsi, and Eji in Mahaday) by Dir orders. War ku waan dhiig malaha wallahi iyo Caqli saacadooda waxay taagan tahay before al Shabaab 2007.
The weakening of SL wil lead to Al Shabaab decline. Our ganacsato ran from Mogadishu and no one targets Dir and Isaaq businessmen in Xamar. They tell us in the UK "you guys are crazy these hawiye folks don't want dawlad why you fighting with Shabaab on your own?" Ok what you want me to do? "Ka dhexbaxa ayaga iyo amisom oo mashruuc u joogta" they r not mentioing Dawlad Hawiye at all.
On the other hand, Isaaq is with their Al Shabaab enemy who kills them daily so they can tell the world that the Al Shabaab rules them and that it is not possible to negotiate with the them(Hawiye Govt). The latter type ignores their real enemy.
When they see me they think im "chearleading for Daarood" when yesterday Al shabaab attacked us from three fronts(Goobo in maxaas, Afcad in Jalalaqsi, and Eji in Mahaday) by Dir orders. War ku waan dhiig malaha wallahi iyo Caqli saacadooda waxay taagan tahay before al Shabaab 2007.
The weakening of SL wil lead to Al Shabaab decline. Our ganacsato ran from Mogadishu and no one targets Dir and Isaaq businessmen in Xamar. They tell us in the UK "you guys are crazy these hawiye folks don't want dawlad why you fighting with Shabaab on your own?" Ok what you want me to do? "Ka dhexbaxa ayaga iyo amisom oo mashruuc u joogta" they r not mentioing Dawlad Hawiye at all.
They think darod is a threat to them but if u analyze every conflict with HG, it's always HG who starts, u shud know this as they do it to you also, marehan, mj, hawadle, n within themselves, they want to unite hags like 90s on 'darod neceb' to hide the dysfunction among their clan which we know their unity is merely 'superficial' and 'darod neceb' based. jecel hg iskuma gabtee kkkk neceb darod ayay isku racan that's not a 'proper unity' its superficial n will fall in on itself like south sudan did uniting on hate of north sudan, then when they won and no more north sudan neceb, wat happened? HGnimo happened
@The Midlands HG track record
1. unite hags on darod neceb so they can squeeze themselves into the south. Done
2. Repeat the same policy so they can continue pushing into HAG LANDS
3. Bimaal, marehan, murusade iyo duduble, cayr/saleban vs marehan, sacad iyo omar mahmod, hawadle, rahanwayn, cid aysan afka la gelin ma jiro.
Green lines everywhere HG exists. Total clan dyfunction n absence of state is their signature. Why they do this u may ask? to keep the nation unstable so they can continue their loot plus their so disunited they agreed on 'keep the nation in chaos' so somalis dont see their dysfunction.
1. unite hags on darod neceb so they can squeeze themselves into the south. Done
2. Repeat the same policy so they can continue pushing into HAG LANDS
3. Bimaal, marehan, murusade iyo duduble, cayr/saleban vs marehan, sacad iyo omar mahmod, hawadle, rahanwayn, cid aysan afka la gelin ma jiro.
Green lines everywhere HG exists. Total clan dyfunction n absence of state is their signature. Why they do this u may ask? to keep the nation unstable so they can continue their loot plus their so disunited they agreed on 'keep the nation in chaos' so somalis dont see their dysfunction.
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Dr Osman, the enmity between Mj and HG will stay forever and he enmity between hawiye and Daarood is something that will keep existing but Hawiye are now under the suppression of Al Shabaab and are subjected to massacres and daily assassinations so instead of thinking who benefits from this and funds them secretary and sends them from their "prisons" to the South they are thinking of those who are not in power, not threat to them and are only fighting in their region that is my problem with them.
Now Govt is trying to negotiate with Al Shabaab Hawiye footsoldiers so an Isaaq man who was recently sent by SL and is called habelkaa Sunni is threatening them. The Isaaqs and Dir suggested to kill and kidnap innocent people just bc they are at war with their clan and Hawiye ones said this will make people take weapons against us. Kabakudukade who is Abgaal and karataay who is HG had big clash with hebalkaa Sunni. Who is behind and inciting Sunni against the talks between the Hawiye footsoldiers and NISA? SL.
When we liberate all gobolada dhexe and parts of KG Al Shabaab will split bc now the Dir have access to Jubada dhexe so they are threatening their Hawiye footsoldiers to surrender to the Govt.
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This entire ‘United-HAG’ thing is just to combat Darood. Which is funny aswell because, the Darood house within itself is dysfunctional. Arguably the most dysfunctional in all of 4.0.
Gudane’s invention of Al-Shabaab has been always been a bigger threat to Beesha Hawiye then “Dooros” will ever, but let them ciil. Let’s say miraculously this Darood threat was ever to distinguish, the HAG will simply point there guns at eachother… Which was seen evident during the civil war.
Now don’t want to degrade the thread further so I’ll just end it with this.
- Daroods form majority in 9 Gobols (50% of all Gobols) And form partial majority in other Gobols including Bakool Sare, Cayn, and Galgaduud Sare, all this despite half the clan itself residing outside of Somalia proper. If the irirists want to make it a Darood thing I gave you the facts right there. Daroods shouldn’t really entertain this Darood/Hawiye federal balance, SSC xaqeena waaye we are majority
The Hawiye is honestly a non-factor in this war, they try to insert themselves by pushing this narrative that SSC is needing there support when in reality that’s not true. OP is probably an ciyaal who doesn’t know half of what he’s saying
The dickriding and misinformation in here is peak HG ninkey hoojisaa hiifa weligiis you are victims at the hand of HGs be it through getting slammed or getting your land confisicated for misbehaving and that is clear from the creaks of Gaalkacyo to kismayo. Puntland lying they are freeing Xarardheere when Somaliland is shelling the land they claim as part of their state, irony of the year. Set your priorities right, Or should I say, set your lies right and stick to making sabaayad thats the best you can do ileen dumar ma dhaantiine
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The way they were supporting Formajjo, and talking about Killing Hawyie in Mogadishu, Karama came full Circle and No Daroods are helping them. Wallahi its Sad.
The support of hawiye is critical in Somalia especially rn with HSM in office. Who wouldn’t want the SNA and Mogadishu on their side? If hawiye were fully behind SSC isaaq wouldn’t be in sool by now. However that would mean HSM deploying SNA into what is essentially Somaliland, I’m sure you can understand how that would complicate relations between SL and the FGS, not to mention it would lead to a full blown war which no one wants. It’s the same reason PL isn’t (officially) involved with PL subclans acting independently. Both are acting to prevent all out war with SL, yet only the FGS is criticised. Why isn’t anyone asking Deni or madoobe to speak up?
That being said I support the stance our government is taking, moral and logistical support without full involvement. This way we ensure reer Lascaanod get what they need (I.e airlifting the wounded to Xamar hospitals) without jeopardising potential peace talks with SL. The FGS/HAG is not to picking sides but we’ve done our due diligence to aid dhulbhante in their war of liberation. Can reer JL/DDSI who share a clan with Dhulos say the same?
They cant, and PL cant Fight Sl, they want HSM to send Hawiye Troops to SSC like Formajo sent troops to GEDO, if they think that is happening then they need to stop taking what ever drugs their using.
What can sna-hawiye do right now for reer ssc they can barely keep their towns in Middle shabele half in galgadud under shabab. Reer ssc can handle somaliland and they will soon without outside help. Most of their tanks and heavy weaponry haven’t arrived LA or are still under cambashe who’s playing neutral.
Hassan sheikh spoke about ssc in his Washington DC trip but its Cbb who are hijacking the narrative here. They’re the same ones who wanted Hamze to go full out anti-somaliland today while he depends on parliamentary votes. Meshaan waa la is guraaya if you don’t move with caution.
There are no Hawiye troops, you are a Shabaab, isbaaro and AMISOM occupied dog. You can't even help yourselves.
What does middle shabelle or galgaduud have to do with this? I’m talking about the SNA not Macwiisley, stay on topic waryaa.
It’s a completely out of the world scenario and I don’t support it one bit but let’s imagine for a second hawiye SNA we’re actually deployed in lascanood. A few divisions of Gorgor or Danab would liberate sool in days but how do you think Hargeisa will respond? Dhulos seem to have this idea that we are obligated to fight for them when in reality we have our own issues (AS) and frankly SSC isn’t a priority.
If dhulbhante can liberate sool alone, great. I support them 100% in doing so. In the meantime all we can offer is our prayer
Just yesterday macawiisley killed over 200 alshabaab by themself come back to me when ur able to kill those numbers and you seriously trying to sneak in PSF and MJ
. Werent you bastards begging HSM to save you guys
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SNA going to LA is just not a good idea politically it will give the secessionist a good selling point to the world. What the government can do is stop Djibouti interference and arming somaliland.
As a state PL is occupied by daacish and SL intaasba eeyo waad u tahay the difference between me n You is I am flushing the dogs out while you sit docile and disgraced.
They don't occupy any land, they are no different than a gang. You on the other hand, well we know your history. Hawiye SNA kulahaa.
Shaki maa kaaga jiro SNA is majority Hawiye? A jufo of HG is more than daarood combined in SNA cagadhigo.
Jinni ninkii keenaa baxsha, Shabaab Hawiyaa keenay sidii loo keenay ayaa loo bixinaa ee xaduudahiin xirta waxaa igu maqaala in maalin dhowe qarax ka dhacay bosaso ayna shabaab sheegteen. Hayeey.
