Red pill me on the Amazigh/Berber tribes and subgroups

[Marquis]

@Dawalhabaad get in here. Familiarize us with all the Amazigh subgroups, their historical prominence etc

From what I know, historical:

Libyans: Pharaoh Sheshonq, 22nd and 23rd Meshwesh Dynasty of Egypt
Kutama: Fatimids Military
Masmuda - Almohad
Zenata - Marinids, Wattasid
Sanhaja - Almoravid

Modern day you have the:

Riffians
Kabyle
Tuareg
Chaoui
Shilha

They make up most of the Amazigh population today.

 

[Marquis]

This guy was a chad Riffian war was something else.

 

[Advokaten]

why should care about them niggas, How do you get cucked by arab desert dwellers repeatedly

 

[Marquis]

why should care about them niggas, How do you get cucked by arab desert dwellers repeatedly

not repeatedly. Actually Berbers where on top of the Arabs many times, and Arabs where their subjects. The reason they speak Arabic today is due to Berber Empires promoting Arabic language for religious purposes and post Colonial Arabization after the Spanish, French and italians left. The Post Colonial governments wanted to Arabize the people to cleanse the legacy of the Colonial period.

 

[Advokaten]

not repeatedly. Actually Berbers where on top of the Arabs many times, and Arabs where their subjects. The reason they speak Arabic today is due to Berber Empires promoting Arabic language for religious purposes and post Colonial Arabization after the Spanish, French and italians left. The Post Colonial governments wanted to Arabize the people to cleanse the legacy of the Colonial period.

Shout out to hocine ait ahmed and the kabyles. Long live the socialist forces front

 

[Juke]

not repeatedly. Actually Berbers where on top of the Arabs many times, and Arabs where their subjects. The reason they speak Arabic today is due to Berber Empires promoting Arabic language for religious purposes and post Colonial Arabization after the Spanish, French and italians left. The Post Colonial governments wanted to Arabize the people to cleanse the legacy of the Colonial period.

The majority of Maghrebis are Berber by Autosomal DNA and Y-DNA lineage, yet they lost their language and claim Arabians as their forefathers.

Even when it isn't Arabian Bedouins they claim other Semites, the Tunisians would rather claim Carthaginian (Phoenician) than Amazigh.

 

[Juke]

From what I know, historical:

Libyans: Pharaoh Sheshonq, 22nd and 23rd Meshwesh Dynasty of Egypt
Kutama: Fatimids Military
Masmuda - Almohad
Zenata - Marinids, Wattasid
Sanhaja - Almoravid

The indigenous people of the Canary Islands, the Guanches were Amazigh

Modern day you have the:

Riffians
Kabyle
Tuareg
Chaoui
Shilha

People of the Siwa oasis in Egypt are Amazigh

 

[Ayubi]

The majority of Maghrebis are Berber by Autosomal DNA and Y-DNA lineage, yet they lost their language and claim Arabians as their forefathers.

Even when it isn't Arabian Bedouins they claim other Semites, the Tunisians would rather claim Carthaginian (Phoenician) than Amazigh.

Most don't speak their language but not all, there's plenty of Berber speakers today

 

[Marcus]

Amazigh nationalism is a strange one. Larp as Arabs for 1400 years then rediscover your kangz heritage.

 

[Juke]

Most don't speak their language but not all, there's plenty of Berber speakers today

Yes, I said the majority lost their language, not all

 

[Juke]

Amazigh nationalism is a strange one. Larp as Arabs for 1400 years then rediscover your kangz heritage.

Is it any different than other forms of foreign invader nationalism like Nazi Germans larping as Aryans and appropriating the swastika? Or white people from Istanbul claiming they're Turks (indayaar people from North eastern China)?

 

[Marcus]

Is it any different than other forms of foreign invader nationalism like Nazi Germans larping as Aryans and appropriating the swastika? Or white people from Istanbul claiming they're Turks (indayaar people from North eastern China)?

Everyone's larping at some level.

What matters is if most of the people buy into the larp and pass it on.

 

[Juke]

Everyone's larping at some level.

What matters is if most of the people buy into the larp and pass it on.

Seems like they all have (Great grand*50) daddy issues.

No one wants to identify with the people that were subjugated by the invaders.

 

[Prettymuslim94]

End of the day the true arabs are the gulf ones and their descendants in African countries like sudan. They will understand soon they are just hamitic Mediterranean people.

 

[Ayubi]

End of the day the true arabs are the gulf ones and their descendants in African countries like sudan. They will understand soon they are just hamitic Mediterranean people.

The Arabian peninsula are true Arabs

Egyptians are Copts
All other north Africans are Berber
Sudanese are Nubians and Beja

 

[Prettymuslim94]

The Arabian peninsula, parts of Iraq and the Levant are true Arabs.

Egyptians are Copts
All other north Africans are Berber
Sudanese are Nubians and Beja

Sudan has a lot of Arab dna or were you talking about south Sudanese?
See how Sudan has a lot more arab dna then the other African countries. Morocco has less than italy.

End of the day arab is a culture now not really by blood anymore.

 

[BetterDaysAhead]

The Arabian peninsula are true Arabs.

Egyptians are Copts
All other north Africans are Berber
Sudanese are Nubians and Beja

i heard many bahraini's have persian origins

 

[Marquis]

i heard many bahraini's have persian origins

Arabian Peninsula is full of non-Arabs kkk, in Hejaz for example there are many Saudis of Balochi, Persian, Central Asian, Turkish, Balkan origin.

 

[Ayubi]

i heard many bahraini's have persian origins

The Arabian peninsula, although it's the original home of the Arabs, genetically there mixed with Baloch, Persian, Turks and even Black Africans

 

[Tewahedo]

@Dawalhabaad get in here. Familiarize us with all the Amazigh subgroups, their historical prominence etc

From what I know, historical:

Libyans: Pharaoh Sheshonq, 22nd and 23rd Meshwesh Dynasty of Egypt
Kutama: Fatimids Military
Masmuda - Almohad
Zenata - Marinids, Wattasid
Sanhaja - Almoravid

Modern day you have the:

Riffians
Kabyle
Tuareg
Chaoui
Shilha

They make up most of the Amazigh population today.

Haha I feel honored bro but I'm not really a huge specialist about the subject If you have some specific questions I can maybe help you

we can add :

Sanhaja : Zirid, Hammadid
Zenata : Zayyanid kingdom
Masmuda : Hafsid